DS has to re-do Math homework......

[mjkacmom]

Yes, your son learned a valuable lesson. Next time he can't remember the assignment, he just shouldn't do it because he might have to do it all over again anyway.

and take the zero, and maybe remember to write assignments down in the future!

 

[bumbershoot]

Nothing like holding a child back

No wonder we are ranked so low in math as a country. We should be encouraging our children to work to their FULLEST potential. If he can do the entire packet, GO FOR IT!

The teacher should be pushing him forward and not holding him back.

Agreed. 2nd week of school and he can DO all the problems? Nice!


I do agree that he needed to know what the assignment was, but having teachers that didn't want me to work ahead made me crazy (especially in workbooks). Of course, working ahead and then having to sit through the teachers teaching it to those who didn't figure it out already was drastically boring as well.... not sure which one was worse!

 

[msmayor]

I guess I don't understand why a parent would be upset that a kid had to re-do math problems. What's the big deal?

Practice...practice....practice.

As others have said, the fact that he did MORE than required the first day doesn't give him a free pass the next day. Homework is homework whether you're in 4th grade or 10th grade.

Perhaps the teacher is keeping separate folders for each day. Is she supposed to keep going back to the folder for day 1 to check the work? Are the kids 'swapping' papers in class to check the work, or going over it in class? Is the teacher supposed to remember that your child already did it and have it ready to give back? No. At 4th grade, a child can begin to learn the responsibility necessary to keep track of and complete their homework as instructed.

Teach responsibility now...being responsible for knowing the assignment, being responsible for following directions.

 

[hentob]

Perhaps the teacher is keeping separate folders for each day. Is she supposed to keep going back to the folder for day 1 to check the work?

Too bad. And I am a teacher

Push the students. Why on earth do we hold certain students back so everything can be uniform? The direction thing aside, this child can work ahead. Allow him to do that. Be proud that your classroom houses a student that is working ahead.

Why oh why are we holding students back

 

[JoiseyMom]

OP, ITA with you. I would be annoyed. I can see being upset if a child did less, but the child did more, so that is more practice for him. Having a child re-do the entire thing. Nope over kill, I would have sent them back with a note. I feel the punishment didn't fit the crime so to speak.

People aren't perfect, kids or adults and things get forgotten. I am sure there are better ways of getting it across.

 

[hentob]

Last year (3rd grade), dd9's teacher would deduct 30 points if the paper heading wasn't complete (name, date, group).

Love the God Complex

People make mistakes. Children make mistakes. 30 points So a 100% (A+)goes right to a 70%(D).

I hope that school penalized the teacher by 30% of his/her pay for every mistake he/she made. Doesn't seem too fair now, does it?

 

[The Mystery Machine]

God Complex? I agree with the teacher.

Nothing irritates me more than my kid coming home and not knowing the assignment.

Since when it that the teacher's fault?

 

[mr.bungle]

I think the only thing she did wrong (depending on the answers) was re-assigning the same worksheets. I would say give the kid a different set of problems from the same chapter. I don't know what a 10 year old's memorization skills are but I would have at least remembered some of the answers and it wouldn't have been a challenge to re-do it.

Pardon my ignorance but what is this whole website access for the parents business? Are parents supposed to be able to see what was assigned to their kids or something? Jeez, if my mom had this option when I was in school, I would have been in a lot of trouble!

I don't even think my high school had a website when I graduated in 2000.

 

[mr.bungle]

Love the God Complex

People make mistakes. Children make mistakes. 30 points So a 100% (A+)goes right to a 70%(D).

I hope that school penalized the teacher by 30% of his/her pay for every mistake he/she made. Doesn't seem too fair now, does it?

Last I checked, 70% was a C. Teachers aren't paid nearly enough for shaping the minds of the future. Your comments are ridiculous. Students are there to learn. Young people need to be made aware of their mistake and realize there are consequences regardless of the mistake. Teachers do pay for making mistakes because some parents can be too sensitive. Ultimately this results in job loss. Granted, some teachers are messed up - see the lady in Washington who has kids with her student.

 

[hentob]

God Complex? I agree with the teacher.

Nothing irritates me more than my kid coming home and not knowing the assignment.

Since when it that the teacher's fault?

Taking 30% off of a third grader's paper for making a mistake is a God Complex.

Again, try taking 30% off of the teacher's salary for a mistake

Mistakes happen. Teachers even make them

MAJOR punishments (turning an A into a D) for a mistake is a bit nuts.

 

[hentob]

Last I checked, 70% was a C..

Check again

 

[mr.bungle]

70% = C-; 69% = D+.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(education)#United_States

 

[Magic Mom]

Last I checked, 70% was a C. Teachers aren't paid nearly enough for shaping the minds of the future. Your comments are ridiculous. Students are there to learn. Young people need to be made aware of their mistake and realize there are consequences regardless of the mistake. Teachers do pay for making mistakes because some parents can be too sensitive. Ultimately this results in job loss. Granted, some teachers are messed up - see the lady in Washington who has kids with her student.

Here, a 70% is a D

A 93-100
B 85-92
C 77-84
D 70-76
F <69%

 

[PixieDustandEeyore]

When I was in school I always worked ahead, even in university I got to the point I worked ahead 2 or 3 months worth of essays and projects. It really helps you later on in life, when all my friends were cramming in last minute work I was done and re-editting for the 3rd or 4th time. (This working ahead method kept my average above 90 so I could maintain my academic scholarship which saved thousands as my student loan is $1500.00 after 4 years now!)

Id encourage your son to work as hard as he can and shame on the teacher for holding him back, I understand the he is learning to follow directions,but half my issue in school was work wasn't challenging enough (I ended up getting pushed ahead a couple grades). The teachers always felt it was their duty to challenge me with new material not make me redo old material I was good at in the first place. Teachers wanted me to practice new skills not the ones I've already mastered.

Then again maybe the expectations and goals were different where I went to school (Ontario, Canada). I always loved being pushed it worked well for me. I wish your son lots of luck grade four is a big year!

 

[mr.bungle]

Here, a 70% is a D

A 93-100
B 85-92
C 77-84
D 70-76
F <69%

Strange. Maybe elementary school is different? See my link above to Wikipedia. I'm also currently in college and 70% is a C.

 

[hentob]

70% = C-; 69% = D+.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(education)#United_States

Most schools in the USA have 70% as a D. I don't know what else to tell you.

Believe me, I am pro teacher. Check out my past posts. But it kills me when certain colleagues pull the God Complex. It happens. I am strict. But I am also a human that makes mistakes. A 30% point drop for a mistake

I would NEVER punish a student who can work ahead with ease. I would recognize the gift and start molding my clay It might be more work for me as a teacher, but that is my job.

Push them, teachers!! Give the OP's son the next assignment. He is ready to move ahead.

 

[bethbuchall]

Most schools in the USA have 70% as a D. I don't know what else to tell you.

Believe me, I am pro teacher. Check out my past posts. But it kills me when certain colleagues pull the God Complex. It happens. I am strict. But I am also a human that makes mistakes. A 30% point drop for a mistake

I would NEVER punish a student who can work ahead with ease. I would recognize the gift and start molding my clay It might be more work for me as a teacher, but that is my job.

Push them, teachers!! Give the OP's son the next assignment. He is ready to move ahead.

Around here, we don't have letter grades. However, I think in an unweighted class, a 90 is still 4.0. Where I grew up, our high school was on the 10 point scale, too, except that F was at 64, so D was only 65-69. I think it depends on the school system. I had never heard of the seven point scale until I read it on the DIS boards.

 

[mr.bungle]

Most schools in the USA have 70% as a D. I don't know what else to tell you.

Believe me, I am pro teacher. Check out my past posts. But it kills me when certain colleagues pull the God Complex. It happens. I am strict. But I am also a human that makes mistakes. A 30% point drop for a mistake

I would NEVER punish a student who can work ahead with ease. I would recognize the gift and start molding my clay It might be more work for me as a teacher, but that is my job.

Push them, teachers!! Give the OP's son the next assignment. He is ready to move ahead.

I do suppose 30% is overkill. And I agree with you on points you made in this post. I still am not aware of 70% being a D, but that is because I am no where near anything except community college currently where 70% is a C- for my classes.

Seriously though, thank you for being a teacher. My mom is a teacher and has been for close to 30 years. Teachers don't get nearly enough respect or pay as they should.

 

[ols386]

I think the point is that the child did not follow instructions. And it's not only following instructions, it's LISTENING to the instructions, and taking responsibility for writing down instructions if you cannot remember them. It's all part of the whole learning thing.

 

[lovesmurfs]

Not all instructions are written, on purpose. There could very well have been a good reason why the teacher only wanted 1-5 done. The boy couldn't remember the instructions, he did it wrong, he was asked to do it right, what is wrong with that? 4th grade is a BIG transition year between elementary and middle school and most 4th grade teachers I know are pretty strict about following directions. Yes, OP, I think you are over reacting and by doing so you are undermining what the teacher is trying to do with the students and that is to follow directions.

Our school district provides assignment notebooks for kids from K-12. Assignments should be written down, not by the teacher, but by the student. It's not logical to require a 9 year old to remember on his/her own, regardless of whatever "transition year" he or she is in.

It's a lesson (hopefully learned) that OP's son needs to write down assignments that are given.