Dress Code at California Grill

EnnEss said:
at that level of dining it is appropriate as people are going for the experience and to feel special. Patrons may go and be totally dressed up and feel in place.

This is how many people regard *all* the restaurants with dress codes. Bistro de Paris, California Grill, Jiko, Shula's, Narcoossee's, Flying Fish, etc. are *not* your average family restaurant. While some welcome children (California Grill for example) others discourage them (Shula's and Bistro de Paris) they are all designed to be fine dining experiences. They are created to be very different from a neighborhood Applebee's, Olive Garden or Friendly's. So, while California Grill may be a "family" restaurant in the sense that it caters to a variety of age groups, it is not a typical casual family dining experience like you find in the Average American Mall.

There are many restaurants in WDW without dress codes. Out of the nearly 80 TS restaurants (not including CS, now) only a few- 8 or 9, I think, have suggested dress codes. If they existed in a seaside town in Boston or Maryland, or in an upscale neighborhood near me in NY or NJ, they would most certainly have a similar dress code, as I have experienced.

Part of the ambience is created by the guests. If diners are in sweatpants, it won't make my meal taste any less special, but it will certainly make my meal *feel* less special.
 
EnnEss said:
My entire point about the dress code was that it is not like they want you to dress well, the way they have it described I could wear the most banal clothing and adhere to the code, but many stylish outfits would not be in line with rules.
Style is a matter of personal opinion and taste. The point of the dress code isn't to make sure everyone's "hip" but rather to just make sure everyone respects the experience, respects their fellow diners, rather than dressing so as to offend.

The reason they do this is obvious, some people are totally unable to understand what is acceptable and what is not but instead of having an objective standard applied depending on what is worn they lay down rules that allow for outfits that are ..... just not good.
Maybe it is -- without the dress code, you may place your preference for style over the dress code's objective of respect. With the dress code, you have to make your selections satisfy both your requirements and the restaurant's.

I snicker to myself when I see men walking around with their khakis on, their polo shirts with their company name on it and their cell phones hanging off their pants, on display for who knows why instead of in their pocket and this passes. This is acceptable under Disney's business casual. People wear that because its comfortable, its much like someone wearing a pair of sweats and sports jersey. It is not a nice outfit. It's tacky, yet I don't find it offensive in any way so I dont care if people dine wearing that.
Then why mention it? Doing so made you sound superficial. :confused3
 
It is superficial, but we're discussing a dress code, which is purely and absolutely 100 percent superficial. I was showing my superficiality, and pointing out that I do not believe because of appearance these people should be denied entry anywhere.

A couple posts above someone at least pointed out a reason I'll accept.

This is how many people regard *all* the restaurants with dress codes.

I still don't agree with it. I personally base my experiences and how much I enjoy them on the quality of the time I had with the people I was with. Assuming no one is offensive I am more than pleased to share space, be it a restaurant or wherever, with anyone.

If diners are in sweatpants, it won't make my meal taste any less special, but it will certainly make my meal *feel* less special.

Please do not put words in my mouth, I specifically listed clothing that would not be appropriate and sports wear was among them.

I will always feel dress codes are unnecessary and an attempt to enforce a mold onto people in attempt to not offend someone using a subjective method. The base reason for dress codes is superficial, an attempt to make someone feel special by having everyone wear a certain type of clothing. I do not think making someone wear a certain style or type of clothing can be seen as anything but superficial.
 
Respect is not superficial. The problem, actually, is that so many people have so little respect -- so little respect for their host, and so little respect for their fellow guests. And that pertains not only to the dress code issue, but to a shamefully large array of issues.
 

I am happy to see a dress code because if Disney felt it was necessary then people must've been showing up looking pretty awful!! I went to the official dress code description and really, it's very tame. Jeans are allowed for both men and women. Looking at what they don't allow gives you a good idea of how bad it was getting! If you have a collared shirt, look presentable, and have taken off your baseball cap before entering the restaurant, you'll be fine.

Not permitted in dining room: tank tops, swimming suits or swim suit cover
ups, t-shirts, hats for gentleman, cut offs, or torn clothing of any kind.[/
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