Years ago I had bladder surgery to "lift it". Well that was useless. Didn't work at all. So I wasn't ready to have any other surgery. But the urologist suggested the mesh sling. I had that in May a year ago. Best thing I ever did. It really works. I also have the urge incontinence. That was helped by pills. I'm not completely dry but I have gone from a thick pad to a panty shield. I would encourage any woman to give it a try. What have you got to lose?