Does Anyone Hate/Dread Christmas?

[Allison]

Oh, are we having fun yet? Let's make a contest out of how many of my past posts you can find, then twist them into something I never intended. Really, have some of you considered teaching Creative Writing? What an interesting pass time! Am I supposed to be on the defensive about every word I've ever written? The "...too many pigs at the trough", was an entirely different matter.

Actually, it's not an entirely different manner. These posts show your anger at the world.

You are angry at your husband, your kids, sales clerks, the kids schools, childhood friends who broke your toys, eldery relatives who fed you sweets, homeroom moms whose kids are the pets at school, a restaurant hostess for telling you she hoped she didn't make you walk to far, the school (again) for having too many costumed events, etc, etc, etc.

Please get some therapy. It could really help.

 

[disneymom3]

Well, then......I replied to this last night when I couldn't sleep and then spent the day wondering on and off if this was the same poster who abandoned her DDs birthday party. Thanks to someone else for doing the research for me. The reason that plays into it vhoffman is because it shows a pattern of behavior in you.

You are not going to hear what people have to say that you don't want to do so what is the point of posting? Your solution to your children being rude, ungrateful and disrespectful is that you are going to let them pick out their own Christmas gifts online?? HOW is that going to help? As for them getting a gift card and having tantrums because they don't get everything they want....please! They are 8 and 9, not 2 and 3.

Whatever, family counseling is desperately needed is all I can say.

 

[Nancyg56]

3Princesses4Us ....I really don't need your permission to go to WDW, or wherever I please! I have some suggestions as to where you could go, but I don't think they can be posted here!

Wow! The OP is one angry woman! I fell for this one, and was feeling sympathetic.......right til about here. I'm sorry, but I think that the root if the behavior problems stems from this type of example.

 

[gr8ful4Him]

Or perhaps some of you have such poor reading comprehension that you really can't determine the main point, subordinate ideas, etc. That's what they're teaching my kids now in third grade--perhaps some of you would benefit from sitting in on some of your children's reading classes?

What I don't understand is how some of you feel justified attacking my parenting because of some of the things my kids have done--such as squirt whipping cream on the mirror. I'm not standing there letting him do it! I don't know about it until after the fact, which should be obvious. I've said I've tried every discipline method legal, been consistent, etc. This kid just doesn't respond to anything I do.

You need to find what it is that he likes to do the most. What reallymakes him happy (ie. video games, sports, TV, etc) and then use that as punishment with him. For example, if he loves to play video games and then does something that is clearly against your rules, take the game system away for a day or whatever. If he loves to play soccer, then let that be the punishment, no soccer for a week. Etc.

Perhaps if he wasn't allowed to get away with anything he wants at school he'd behave better at home. Oh, yes, I know, its supposed to be the other way around. Well, do any of you have any suggestions--legal, of course? You just assume I've done nothing over the years, that makes it easier to attack me. What doesn't fit, you just throw out.

How many times has he heard you use this excuse? Chances are, he's using your own argument against you. Kids are smart, that's for sure.

Well, I started this thread yesterday after coming home from the mall, all decorated for Christmas, and we saw soime model homes decorated for Christmas. True to form, ds proceeded to take ornaments off the trees, then denied he was touching them when caught red-handed! I attempted to correct him, only to be told by the variuous sales clerks "Oh, that's ok. He's just a little boy". To which he gave a self-satisfied grin.

At this point, you could have kindly looked at the clerk and told her that you will raise your boy, thanks for the input.

Regardless of what some of you might think, I do try to correct and discipline him.

Maybe it's time you take a look at what you are doing and evaluate how it is working. If it's not working, then maybe you should try something else. An excellent book is "Parenting with Love and Logic, by Foster Cline, M.D. & Jim Fay. Maybe it could give you some fresh ideas.

However, it seems like I'm always fighting someone else, oftentimes a stranger, who thinks they have to intervene and somehow "champion" him. Believe me, he knows how to play into that.

He doesn't really even need to "play into that". He is so playing you!

Well, have fun! This has gone from the original topic to attacks on me and my children. Argue amongst yourselves, go to WDW, or wherever you like! Merry Christmas!

You brought the details of how horrible your children act at Christmas time. You asked for opinions, but...you don't really want them.
I pray that this Christmas is a wonderful one for your family. I hope that you all will learn of the joy and peace that comes with this holiday.

 

[Teacher03]

I was just curious and read over some of your other posts. You do seem like you are a very angry person with very angry children! It doesn't seem to me like you have a very happy life. I hope this Christmas is better for you, but instead of blaming everyone else, reflect what you can do to make your life more meaningful. I will keep you and your family in my prayers.

 

[RoyalCanadian]

Actually, it's not an entirely different manner. These posts show your anger at the world.

You are angry at your husband, your kids, sales clerks, the kids schools, childhood friends who broke your toys, eldery relatives who fed you sweets, homeroom moms whose kids are the pets at school, a restaurant hostess for telling you she hoped she didn't make you walk to far, the school (again) for having too many costumed events, etc, etc, etc.

Please get some therapy. It could really help.

So often when we find ourselves angry with so many people and groups with whom we come in contact we need to examine what they all have in common. In the OP's case -- as is usual in these situations -- the OP is the common factor.

I am not exactly sure what sort of advice vhoffman was hoping to find out here, but I have come to the conclusion that many posters searching for advice should simply tell the rest of the board what sort of advice they want so that we can simply pander to their needs and post lots of or instead of wasting time posting helpful suggestions that only end up in insults being hurled in return.

 

[UrsulasShadow]

This is probably the only time I've hoped for the thread to be locked AND the OP to be banned.

 

[agnes!]

Just in case you don't realize it, there is NO safe environment for children. NONE! I have taken my children to a homeless shelter before. Many times the people there are MUCH more grateful for the fact that someone would take their time to do anything for them. We've gone with our old church's youth group and had worship services with them and then fed them afterwards. The youth served these people and then sat and had the opportunity to talk with them, and learn that most were just "down on their luck". I guess I didn't notice the undesirable element present at the shelter we went to...sure, they may not have been dressed in fancy clothes, or looked the cleanest, or whatever, but they also weren't trying to impress anyone and they had better manners than a lot of people I run into daily.

Good post, gr8ful4Him .

About those who are homeless...
In my neighborhood, the only recent felonies were jointly committed by a juvenile (who comes from a very nice neighborhood) and by another older juvenile who has also never suffered a real day of material want in his life.
Homeless people are just *that*...fellow human beings who are HOMELESS. That status doesn't make them any less of a human being than others.
That life-condition doesn't make them any better or any worse than others.

I sort of/kind of understand what you seem to be saying about not wanting to serve in a homeless shelter and what you seem to be saying about perhaps not wanting your children to be around those who might be considered somehow more dangerous, but consider what I posted in my first paragraph and remember...
A jerk can still be a jerk regardless of whether or not they own/rent their residence.

I do hope that this holdiay season is a more joyful one for you and yours. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

agnes!

 

[momx2]

I usually don't reply to threads like these, but I find that I must. Am I the perfect mother, oh no, I yell, have spanked(or make my DH spank if necessary), I'm not perfect. I just do not get this. Either you are a troll or as I believe, you have some big problems. I have looked at your previous posts and I am really concerned. You seem to have a lot of symptoms my mother used to have. Over paranoid, critical and somewhat abusive. She is now on medication and better, but it wasn't until I was in my 30s and the damage was already done. I lived this nightmare and came out okay, but my other siblings didn't. I know you have disabilities. It just seems you hate the world and I truly worry your DKs are paying the price. PLEASE,PLEASE GET HELP!!!!!! I don't have an interest in anything but your kids mental health and future.

 

[magiroux]

This is probably the only time I've hoped for the thread to be locked AND the OP to be banned.

Just researched some previous postings by OP, and I couldn't agree with you more . Pathetic

 

[Jamesbyr]

Here's an original tactic: I read the first two or three posts, then jumped to the end, before it got nasty.

OP needs to set up a community thing, like bringing the family to church as a focus to the Day. I am not a religious person, but if there is no sense of community celebration (remember carols?) then the focus on in-house trees and toys will come up dry-mouthed.

Now I will go back and see how this thread got so off-track.

 

[KathyTX]

I'm closing this thread due to anger issues and personal attacks.