I think the type of WDW vacation you take makes a big difference. An offsite or value resort trip that's all about marathon days at the parks & eating counter service junk food or cooking for yourself can just be exhausting. I can see why people would much prefer DCL to that.
We prefer to stay in deluxe resorts & spend half days at the parks, half days at the pools, and eating good meals at themed table service restaurants. That's a totally different experience and is equal to or better than what we get on DCL. At least at the resorts we can actually swim in full-sized pools & the lines for waterslides are much shorter than on the ship. The food is typically better at the table service restaurants at WDW than at the MDRs on the ships. And when you add in the fun that can be had at the parks...a slow-paced deluxe WDW trip is hard to beat if you know how to do it right.
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I have stayed for a week at a value and would never choose to do so again, so no, I don't find the experiences at all similar. Our room was small, drab & uncomfortable- basically a motel room. Never wanted to hang out there at all. By contrast, deluxe resort rooms are comfortable and attractive, and a pleasure to return to midday. Value resorts have no waterslides or hot tubs, no good dining venues, no quick access to parks or other amenities.If I may add a nuance... The things you say you do in a Deluxe hotel, you could also do them in a value (spend half a day in the park, half a day at the pool and eat in nice table service restaurants --althought you'd have to visit another resort to do it--) while I agree that the comfort of the room is not exactly the same, when it comes to service from the staff (outside of the Club Level), I can't say I've seen much of a difference when we stayed at the Art of Animation (they were fantastic).
I agree. We like the convenience of being able to jump on the Monorail to get to WDW or back to the hotel. I have grown to dislike the bus system over the years so we take uber if we need to get to another park. It costs us a little bit but much quicker.I have stayed for a week at a value and would never choose to do so again, so no, I don't find the experiences at all similar. Our room was small, drab & uncomfortable- basically a motel room. Never wanted to hang out there at all. By contrast, deluxe resort rooms are comfortable and attractive, and a pleasure to return to midday. Value resorts have no waterslides or hot tubs, no good dining venues, no quick access to parks or other amenities.
The comfort, quality & amenities of deluxe resorts is what makes a relaxing vacation at them comparable (or better, when you add the entertainment available at the parks) to the DCL experience.
That word... "Magical". We all have our very own definition of what magic is.
You might not like or agree with mine. I do not tend to see things with rose-colored glasses.
To me, what is "magical" is what happens without being organized. Like having dolphins following your cruise ship...
Disney vacations are super organized. CMs/characters are humans being paid to be nice with you and your kids. I don't call it magic, I call it "good customer service".
That doesn't mean I can't appreciate what they do. Au contraire, since I don't expect it/"magic", it's very much appreciated when good things happen.
I agree with you on how to experience WDW. I go deluxe or not at all. I'm not sure I would use the word "magical" to describe anything. It's not a part of my everyday vocabulary. Given the choice of a week at a deluxe resort or a week on a generic DCL cruise to experience the "magic" of Disney I'd choose WDW.I think the type of WDW vacation you take makes a big difference. An offsite or value resort trip that's all about marathon days at the parks & eating counter service junk food or cooking for yourself can just be exhausting. I can see why people would much prefer DCL to that.
We prefer to stay in deluxe resorts & spend half days at the parks, half days at the pools, and eating good meals at themed table service restaurants. That's a totally different experience and is equal to or better than what we get on DCL. At least at the resorts we can actually swim in full-sized pools & the lines for waterslides are much shorter than on the ship. The food is typically better at the table service restaurants at WDW than at the MDRs on the ships. And when you add in the fun that can be had at the parks...a slow-paced deluxe WDW trip is hard to beat if you know how to do it right.
But DCL is also awesome as we love being at sea, visiting Castaway Cay, seeing new places, feeling taken care of & far away from it all...
I think the type of WDW vacation you take makes a big difference. An offsite or value resort trip that's all about marathon days at the parks & eating counter service junk food or cooking for yourself can just be exhausting. I can see why people would much prefer DCL to that.
We prefer to stay in deluxe resorts & spend half days at the parks, half days at the pools, and eating good meals at themed table service restaurants. That's a totally different experience and is equal to or better than what we get on DCL. At least at the resorts we can actually swim in full-sized pools & the lines for waterslides are much shorter than on the ship. The food is typically better at the table service restaurants at WDW than at the MDRs on the ships. And when you add in the fun that can be had at the parks...a slow-paced deluxe WDW trip is hard to beat if you know how to do it right.
I have stayed for a week at a value and would never choose to do so again, so no, I don't find the experiences at all similar. Our room was small, drab & uncomfortable- basically a motel room. Never wanted to hang out there at all. By contrast, deluxe resort rooms are comfortable and attractive, and a pleasure to return to midday. Value resorts have no waterslides or hot tubs, no good dining venues, no quick access to parks or other amenities.
The comfort, quality & amenities of deluxe resorts is what makes a relaxing vacation at them comparable (or better, when you add the entertainment available at the parks) to the DCL experience.
I think asking 500-600$ for 24 hours in a Deluxe is complete insanity. They better have a great promo or make it Club Level for this price if they want to see me again. LOL
Yep, most people don't understand the vast difference between the experience described in your second paragraph (which is also how we experience WDW) versus that described in your first paragraph, particuarly from a relaxation standpoint.
I think most people never experience WDW as described in your second paragraph at least in part because they spend so much money on just getting to WDW and buying tickets. Consequently, they feel the need to get their "money's worth" for those expensive tickets, which often means going commando style. In that instance, the hotel simply becomes a place to sleep (and even if they don't go commando style, most people can't justify the cost of deluxe resorts and/or significant table service dining).
So for them, the contrast between WDW and DCL is pretty dramatic, particularly from a relaxation standpoint.
But if you visit WDW as described in your second paragraph, the difference between WDW and DCL, from an overall quality standpoint, is almost a coin flip (even though it's not apples to apples).
I like your plan. Although I'd probably spend two nights before cruise and fly home after cruise. Our last cruise out of MCO we spent two nights at AKL pre cruise. We arrived around 4pm the first day. We spent the next day at Disney Springs and had dinner in the Boardwalk area. We did not miss going to the park.I'm trying to talk some of my extended family into staying at the Poly the night before our DCL cruise and then staying at the Wilderness Lodge the night after. None of them want to visit theme parks on this trip so they think my plan is, as you say, complete insanity (their basic position is: why would we want to spend a ton of money to go out of our way to stay at WDW if we're not even going to go into the parks).
The thing is, not only have none of them ever sailed with DCL but none of them have ever stayed at the deluxe level at WDW. In addition, the two resorts I've picked provide some really awesome perks that I believe make them worth the exorbitant price tag, even under the conditions of a one night stay with no theme parks.
For example, these resorts either include or are very close to two of the best group dinner experiences at WDW: 'Ohana and HDDR, which I'd like to do with my extended family before and after the cruise. Most of them have never experienced either (and they both provide experiences that are very different, but I think at least as good from an overall experience standpoint, as the rotational dinners on the cruise).
Both resorts also provide elements that add a lot of value to even a one night stay. For example, for the pre-cruise Poly portion, we can watch fireworks from the beach after 'Ohana and then have a relaxing breakfast at Kona the next morning before going to the port. For the post-cruise WL portion, there's all of the stuff around WL and Ft. Wilderness.
Finally, both resorts have awesome, immersive themeing and less crowded pool areas than what they'll experience on the ship.
And Disney makes it really easy to go from MCO to your resort, from your resort to the ship, then after the cruise, from the ship to your resort, and from your resort to MCO. Basically, I think my plan is way more fun and relaxing than they imagine.
All that being said, I can totally understand why they think my plan makes no sense (if I were in their shoes, I'd probably think the same thing).
And I do wish the service level at the deluxe resorts was more commensurate in scope with the price. For example, if we end up following my plan, I'm afraid my family will be disappointed with the WL (after getting over the wow factor of the lobby) after experiencing the much higher service level on the cruise.
I like the suites at AOA, but they're about the same price these days as a deluxe because they're never discounted. Our last three visits I've managed to book to book a deluxe resort for a little under 300.00 per night taxes included. It's still kind of ridiculous, but I certainly wouldn't pay 500-600 a night not even for club level.Okay so our opinion is different, like I said, yes there is a difference when it comes to comfort but I really don't think the Art of Animation is that bad. (Can't compare with rooms as we were in a suite...)
I've mostly stayed at Deluxe resorts (AKL x2, YC Club Level, Poly x2, GF Club Level + all the moderates). We do not use slides and hot tubs are always full anyway so not very inviting... And we use transportation a lot when it comes to restaurants as we like to dine in different resorts and not always "home".
My only bug with value hotels is that there is too much concrete, which is not the case with Art of Animation. AOA is much much more inviting than the others. I would stay there again especially on a pre-cruise stay.
I think asking 500-600$ for 24 hours in a Deluxe is complete insanity. They better have a great promo or make it Club Level for this price if they want to see me again. LOL
All I can say is that when we stayed there, the CMs treated us just as well as CMs do when we are staying in Deluxe hotels which is something I could appreciate.