Do Not Disturb Gone! (BLT)

[dansdad]

Maybe it's not quite to that extreme, but your post does remind me of a day on my trip last month when we went through security at the TTC, again to ride monorail to meal at Contemporary, again to go back to MK, etc., and it ended up being a total of five times in one day through bag check and metal detectors. As you say, not so relaxing to spend that much of your day going through security. I'm glad they are so concerned with safety, but wish there were some way to be effective without the same guests having to go through so many security checks in one day.

I can see the commercial now. "Get your WDW Pre-Check and you can schedule FP+ for security lines to enhance your experience."

 

[tim123]

I can see the commercial now. "Get your WDW Pre-Check and you can schedule FP+ for security lines to enhance your experience."

Only $169 a day plus tax. 10% discount for DVC, FL residents and Annual Passholder. (No need to remove belts and shoes)

 

[tim123]

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[Allison]

Enough with the Nazi, slavery, and East Germany references. That is so insulting to people who have been through true oppression. This is a luxury vacation we are talking about here. If you don't like it, stop going and spend your money elsewhere. That is really the bottom line and there is nothing wrong with that decision. Just as there is nothing wrong with others deciding this is no big deal to them.

There is no longer any productive conversation happening in this thread.

 

[RockAndRollBallerina]

For those who think that it's just Disney taking this route. Wynn in Las Vegas starts an on property investigation, if a Do Not Disturb Sign has been outside of a room door for 12 or more consecutive hours. They most likely just call the room to see if everyone is ok, and if they suspect a person's behavior is off while talking with them over the phone; probably send security up to the room to further investigate, and to see to it that there's nothing fishy or strange going on in the room itself that may possibly raise a red flag while talking to the guest in the room while the door is open.

Currently, Mandalay Bay is dealing with a class action lawsuit with 450, if not more people suing them as a result of the shooting that happened in a room; on their property. All because they didn't see multiple things the shooter did as red flags. One of those being, having a Do Not Disturb Sign outside of the door for three consecutive days. At no time did they start any kind of investigation, nor check in with the individual who carried out the massacre. They also never sent anyone up to his room to make any sort of contact, that may have led to a quick visual sweep of the room that may have ultimately led to the hotel it's self telling him to leave the property.

Ultimately, no resort, or hotel wants to find themselves in the shoes Mandalay Bay is currently in; and if the people who sued the property win, the amount of money they're going to be forking over is going to be pretty substantial. With 58 dead, and over 500 injured in the Vegas shooting. This is Disneys way of not finding out the hard way that a person who didn't have good intentions for being there did something.

 

[tim123]

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[Allison]

Please. I'm not unhappy at all. I will keep going to Disney and I will continue to enjoy it. The fear mongering on this thread is not productive.

 

[Ninja Mom]

Enough with the Nazi, slavery, and East Germany references. That is so insulting to people who have been through true oppression. This is a luxury vacation we are talking about here. If you don't like it, stop going and spend your money elsewhere. That is really the bottom line and there is nothing wrong with that decision. Just as there is nothing wrong with others deciding this is no big deal to them.

There is no longer any productive conversation happening in this thread.

I disagree. As much as we hate to admit it there are parallels to be seen. It always starts out as subtle and then it slowly escalates as we become immune to the changes. We are not at the level of those terms but there is a comparison in how things start. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". George Santayana

If this was an effective security measure I would be all for it. To me it does reek of ineffective security theater. The privacy you are giving up is not being replaced with enhanced security. Someone is definitely over-reacting in management at Disney.

This should always be about enhancing security in real, effective ways and these room inspections do not.

~NM

 

[xiphoid76]

For those who think that it's just Disney taking this route. Wynn in Las Vegas starts an on property investigation, if a Do Not Disturb Sign has been outside of a room door for 12 or more consecutive hours. They most likely just call the room to see if everyone is ok, and if they suspect a person's behavior is off while talking with them over the phone; probably send security up to the room to further investigate, and to see to it that there's nothing fishy or strange going on in the room itself that may possibly raise a red flag while talking to the guest in the room while the door is open.

Currently, Mandalay Bay is dealing with a class action lawsuit with 450, if not more people suing them as a result of the shooting that happened in a room; on their property. All because they didn't see multiple things the shooter did as red flags. One of those being, having a Do Not Disturb Sign outside of the door for three consecutive days. At no time did they start any kind of investigation, nor check in with the individual who carried out the massacre. They also never sent anyone up to his room to make any sort of contact, that may have led to a quick visual sweep of the room that may have ultimately led to the hotel it's self telling him to leave the property.

Ultimately, no resort, or hotel wants to find themselves in the shoes Mandalay Bay is currently in; and if the people who sued the property win, the amount of money they're going to be forking over is going to be pretty substantial. With 58 dead, and over 500 injured in the Vegas shooting. This is Disneys way of not finding out the hard way that a person who didn't have good intentions for being there did something.

Thank you for posting this - I am surprised by the number of people thinking this was just Disney. Maybe because we just took vacations to NYC and Las Vegas, we just assumed this was the way most hotels were now operating. In our hotel in Vegas (Aria) they removed the do not disturb and we were told upon check in that security would check each room each day. We could call and request when they could come in which we did as we wanted to take naps.

In NYC we stayed at Doubletree at Times Square - our room overlooked Times Square which was amazing. Here they had do not disturb signs still, but a letter inside the room saying while they will honor the signs, if they are kept up for more than 24 hours a room check will need to be done as each room needs to be checked daily.

It is just the way it is - we called to ask for a check in and were able to take naps undisturbed

 

[amylevan]

Wynn in Las Vegas starts an on property investigation, if a Do Not Disturb Sign has been outside of a room door for 12 or more consecutive hours. They most likely just call the room to see if everyone is ok, and if they suspect a person's behavior is off while talking with them over the phone; probably send security up to the room to further investigate, and to see to it that there's nothing fishy or strange going on in the room itself that may possibly raise a red flag while talking to the guest in the room while the door is open.

But it sounds like at least at Wynn is giving you 12 hours of peace first and possibly the courtesy of a phone call. WDW is essentially saying that you don't even get 12 hours. That means we can't get up, go to a park, come back at 1 to find that our room hasn't been cleaned and throw the DND sign up so we can nap without the possibility of being disturbed.

And did you see the quote upthread where they came looking at 9pm? My kids are in bed by then. No way are we letting someone in our room at 9pm.

 

[tim123]

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[Allison]

they may very well know something we don't.

Absolutely.

 

[Miffy]

I have decided to forget about the new policy and relax in my new favorite resort! Where service and guests needs are taken care of immediately and with the utmost concern for privacy and comfort. No comparison staff wise, food wise and service wise on the 27,000 acres of The Walt Disney Company's private property..

I guess everyone on this thread knows what this is, but I don't. What resort is this? Thanks.

 

[tim123]

I guess everyone on this thread knows what this is, but I don't. What resort is this? Thanks.

Four Seasons...a hop, skip and a jump to the Magic Kingdom. Lovely place.

 

[Miffy]

Four Seasons...a hop, skip and a jump to the Magic Kingdom. Lovely place.

It is indeed lovely! That's why I asked! Thank you.

ETA: Just looked up prices for my upcoming trip. Perhaps one day I'll be able to afford this.

 

[Tiggerette]

I appreciate disparate points of view, but when someone posts several times in one day, it appears to monopolize the conversation. It creates a respond-to-defend environment instead of listening. If someone truly thinks they need to post every few hours or minutes in one day, that their points of view are that important (and giving space to others is less important), then it may better to create your own thread, post your essay and close it. Please stop re-iterating, and give at least a day for others to consider your sizeable number of previous posts. Continuing to reactively respond rather than listening (literally giving time and thoughtful pause), isn't a discussion- it's controlling the conversation. I look forward to hearing from guests on their personal experiences at resorts with this new policy.

 

[mjr0483]

Although to be fair, humanity does exactly that. There is zero value in me doing this, but very valuable to have the right people doing it in the long run.

But even having the right people do it, is to just to be able to say we do it. And in the end, do you want housekeeping to be doing the job of security? Can they do both effectively? Will they be able to clean your room AND do the proper "security checks"? I think I would rather them focus on the fact that my room is CLEAN.

 

[Wdw1015]

The fear mongering and overreaction on this thread is laughable. So let me get this straight.... Disney will be knocking down doors in their riot gear at the exact moment that you decide you need to pee?? Well that’s just great...

Those that are refusing to go back, go for it, more fastpasses for me!!

 

[mjr0483]

Please. I'm not unhappy at all. I will keep going to Disney and I will continue to enjoy it. The fear mongering on this thread is not productive.

Yeah, but some people have legitimate gripes. And curiosity since Disney as always doesn't say what the rules are. The first time you are in the shower and forget to latch the door and some strange person is in your room maybe you will just brush it off or be completely pissed. Who knows, it sounds like you will be totally accepting of it. The issue is ROI. What security will be gained by these measures versus impact to guest privacy and the fact that our privacy is getting chipped away.

 

[GTApex]

But even having the right people do it, is to just to be able to say we do it. And in the end, do you want housekeeping to be doing the job of security? Can they do both effectively? Will they be able to clean your room AND do the proper "security checks"? I think I would rather them focus on the fact that my room is CLEAN.

Sorry... I wasn’t taking a position on the new door tags... just pointing out that the analogy may be flawed