Do "Change Party Fast Passes" violate Disney rules?

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When Disney's updates and FP abuse consequences are fully known, Change Party as a legitimate function involving those Guests with tickets, who are planning a trip or who are in the park on a specific park day, will be added to the FP FAQ or to the FP FAQ Addendum. This was discussed with the FP FAQ OP last week.
So, at some point, when this becomes more clear, that thread will be updated to notify Dis posters of which specific activities are known (no speculation) to cause blue Mickeys, locked MDE accounts and potential loss of future FP+ privileges?
 
So, at some point, when this becomes more clear, that thread will be updated to notify Dis posters of which specific activities are known (no speculation) to cause blue Mickeys, locked MDE accounts and potential loss of future FP+ privileges?
What is a blue mickey?
 
The rules are perfectly clear. How far you can bend the rules is not so clear.

We all know that police don't give out speeding tickets if you are just slightly over the speed limit. But how far over? They are not going to say because ideally they still want you to stay within the actual speed limit. If you get a ticket for going slightly over the limit you cannot complain that you did know what the tolerance is.

Likewise Disney are not going to spell out exactly what you can and cannot get away with. And the DIS has taken a stance to prohibit users from finding those boundaries through experimenting and sharing.

The workaround which can no longer be discussed was very contrived. It was not something that could be mistaken for legitimate activity and if you are not going to great lengths to cheat the system it is not something you need to worry about stumbling into.
 

So, at some point, when this becomes more clear, that thread will be updated to notify Dis posters of which specific activities are known (no speculation) to cause blue Mickeys, locked MDE accounts and potential loss of future FP+ privileges?
When it is known exactly what does not flag an account when the Change Party function is used, the info will be added to the FP FAQ.

Abuses of the FP system are not part of the FAQ - if people follow the FAQ directions, which are written in accordance with the MDE TOS, they will end up with valid FPs that don't lead to their accounts being flagged.
 
At the park gates and FP+ line entrances:
Mickey Head RFID reader ("Touch-point") turns blue (instead of green.)
Blue indicates "entry refused."
Figured it was a touch point thing...wasn't sure what the blue meant. Thanks!
 
I have a question regarding "change party". Say Friend A and I are planning a trip, we book our fastpasses. Then closer to the date Friend A drops out and Friend B is going to join me. Can I use "change party" to move Friend A's fastpasses to Friend B in advance?
 
I have a question regarding "change party". Say Friend A and I are planning a trip, we book our fastpasses. Then closer to the date Friend A drops out and Friend B is going to join me. Can I use "change party" to move Friend A's fastpasses to Friend B in advance?
Yes; or what's easiest is Edit the MDE Profile and change the name to your new friend.

Much faster than Changing Party for each booked FP.
 
Not sure how asking this could be considered a violation so i'm gonna say what I dang well please about it.

Changing party members, party size, time, and attraction are options under FP+ modification so..... if they are options they can't be considered loopholes.
 
Why don't people just come up with their own strategies? The whole concept of trying to spell out for the world how to get additional perks, circumvent rules, exploit systems, take advantages of opportunities, or simply be creative... whatever you want to call whatever it is you do to make your trip good for you and yours... Documenting specifically what to do is A) going to get any such opportunities closed faster and B) make them less useful for you. There is little value in the instructional threads that spell out step by step ways to get an advantage. Someone once said that by making everyone super, no one is super! Just come up w your own ideas. You don't need to be told what is right, wrong, or spell it out. Further discussion of the topic of getting around FP rules is not allowed, and that's a good thing for everyone. Especially people who will be creative in their own ways. Standby lines will move faster now. FastPasses will be more available. We will still get on lots, we will still get around the crowds, just like we did before FastPass, with paper FastPasses, with digital FP+'s, and whatever the future will bring. I don't get the need to find a subtle way to talk about getting around a rule just to post it so everyone can start doing it. Why not just let it go, and accept that all future talk should revolve around using valid ticket media? It's the Dis rule.
Changing party members, party size, time, and attraction are options under FP+ modification so..... if they are options they can't be considered loopholes.
Other things were "options" before too. But Disney and the Dis closed them down. So clearly they weren't acceptable practices just because they were options.
 
They aren't allowing it, and you won't find it just in planning a trip. It was very specific.

Suffice it to say, if you want to use a FP+, it MUST be attached to a ticket that was scanned to enter the park. Anyone in your party can then use that FP+.

disclaimer: this is based on how I interpret the T&C

Actually, according to the T&C, the ticket for which the FP was originally booked must be used to enter the park.

"The valid theme park admission associated with your Site/App account and used to make FastPass+ selections must be the same valid theme park admission that you will use for entry into the park on the day the FastPass+ selections are redeemed."
 
That's fine. But some of us don't know what new secret FP+ issue is against board policy to discuss. Frankly, I'm not aware of any changes to Disney's FP+ policies. If someone could enlighten those of us who have no idea what is and is not permissible, that could be very helpful. Thanks.

Based on the T&C on the wdw site, the T&C has not changed since September 7, 2016. So, the rules have not changed. Only the system that implements it has.
 
Can fastpasses be changed legally before anyone enters the parks? Is this technically possible, permitted by TOS, and permitted discussion here?

Here's a real example -- Dad and Junior are going to go to Blizzard Beach and Mom and Juniorette are going to go to the MK. Dad and Junior decide to leave BB at 2:00 when the park gets too crowded to enjoy. Turns out that Mom and Juniorette never made it to the park and decided on a swim and spa day instead. Dad and Junior's tickets are no good after 14 days anyway and they have an extra day, so they decide, what the heck, if we can use Mom and Juniorette's 5:00 space mountain FPs, it would be worth going over there for the evening. Can Mom and Juniorette legally transfer their FPs to Dad and Junior before Dad and Junior enter the park, so that they can now use that FP? (Or even 10 days before if plans change about who will go in the parks when?)

I think if I understand the discussion above, this is not using a FP that was reserved on a ticket that did not enter the park, because the transfer occurs before Dad and Junior enter the park (and thus they are not getting any extra fasstpasses -- they still only get three, but just get one that was originally reserved on a different ticket before anyone entered the park).

disclaimer: this is based on how I interpret the T&C

Since Mom and Juniorette's tickets are the ones that were originally used to book the FP, and they were not used to enter the park, technically they cannot be used by Dad and Junior.

"The valid theme park admission associated with your Site/App account and used to make FastPass+ selections must be the same valid theme park admission that you will use for entry into the park on the day the FastPass+ selections are redeemed."
 
I have a question regarding "change party". Say Friend A and I are planning a trip, we book our fastpasses. Then closer to the date Friend A drops out and Friend B is going to join me. Can I use "change party" to move Friend A's fastpasses to Friend B in advance?

disclaimer: this is based on how I interpret the T&C

The FP were originally booked on A's ticket. If A's ticket will not be used to enter the park, the FPs that were booked with it cannot be used by anyone else.

"The valid theme park admission associated with your Site/App account and used to make FastPass+ selections must be the same valid theme park admission that you will use for entry into the park on the day the FastPass+ selections are redeemed."
 
disclaimer: this is based on how I interpret the T&C

Actually, according to the T&C, the ticket for which the FP was originally booked must be used to enter the park.

"The valid theme park admission associated with your Site/App account and used to make FastPass+ selections must be the same valid theme park admission that you will use for entry into the park on the day the FastPass+ selections are redeemed."

disclaimer: this is based on how I interpret the T&C

Since Mom and Juniorette's tickets are the ones that were originally used to book the FP, and they were not used to enter the park, technically they cannot be used by Dad and Junior.

"The valid theme park admission associated with your Site/App account and used to make FastPass+ selections must be the same valid theme park admission that you will use for entry into the park on the day the FastPass+ selections are redeemed."
disclaimer: this is based on how I interpret the T&C

The FP were originally booked on A's ticket. If A's ticket will not be used to enter the park, the FPs that were booked with it cannot be used by anyone else.

"The valid theme park admission associated with your Site/App account and used to make FastPass+ selections must be the same valid theme park admission that you will use for entry into the park on the day the FastPass+ selections are redeemed."

Ok, then in your mind what is a valid use for the Change Party feature that as it currently exists on the MDE site? Giving an example of a use that fits in the TOS as you see it
 
Why don't people just come up with their own strategies? The whole concept of trying to spell out for the world how to get additional perks, circumvent rules, exploit systems, take advantages of opportunities, or simply be creative... whatever you want to call whatever it is you do to make your trip good for you and yours... Documenting specifically what to do is A) going to get any such opportunities closed faster and B) make them less useful for you. There is little value in the instructional threads that spell out step by step ways to get an advantage. Someone once said that by making everyone super, no one is super! Just come up w your own ideas. You don't need to be told what is right, wrong, or spell it out. Further discussion of the topic of getting around FP rules is not allowed, and that's a good thing for everyone. Especially people who will be creative in their own ways. Standby lines will move faster now. FastPasses will be more available. We will still get on lots, we will still get around the crowds, just like we did before FastPass, with paper FastPasses, with digital FP+'s, and whatever the future will bring. I don't get the need to find a subtle way to talk about getting around a rule just to post it so everyone can start doing it. Why not just let it go, and accept that all future talk should revolve around using valid ticket media? It's the Dis rule.

Other things were "options" before too. But Disney and the Dis closed them down. So clearly they weren't acceptable practices just because they were options.

I'm not aware of what had been other options in the modification section of FP+.
Care to enlighten me?
 
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