Do cancellations happen a lot in Northern states

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Checking SW flights from Oklahoma to Orlando for late Dec and early January. Many of the flights go from OKC to then to a northern state (Denver, Washington to name a few) then to mco. I am thinking I should avoid these flights even though they are lower priced as winter cancellations are more likely or delays.

Return trip might not be so bad to have delayed.

Am I right about this?
 
Checking SW flights from Oklahoma to Orlando for late Dec and early January. Many of the flights go from OKC to then to a northern state (Denver, Washington to name a few) then to mco. I am thinking I should avoid these flights even though they are lower priced as winter cancellations are more likely or delays.

Return trip might not be so bad to have delayed.

Am I right about this?
The other way you can look at it is "northern" cities know how to handle winter weather better than "southern" cities, so it will take more to affect flights.

When you say they're "lower priced", how much "lower"? If it's $50-$100, yes, I'd avoid going north. If it's $500 cheaper, I'd probably take my chances.
 
Colorado is not a "northern" state! ;)

Keep in mind delays at one airport can affect a lot of other airports. Just because the weather is good in the south doesn't mean your flight won't be affected by bad weather in, say, the northeast. Winter flights are always at risk for problems due to bad weather.
 
When I used to fly a lot for work, I had more issues with summer thunderstorms than winter snowstorms.
 

Colorado is not a "northern" state! ;)
LOL! Kind of West-Northwest of OKC.

To the real question Tigger is asking, airports with snow could get closed; however, it is fairly rare for that to happen. DEN, for example, has enough snow plowing gear to clear the city itself, and they have de-icing gear.

DEN only shuts down if a major blizzard is in force. In these cases, the airlines will offer alternate routing and refunds as required. Plus, the legacy carriers have interlining agreements with other airlines, in case they need to shift their load.

I would not worry about it, as the airlines have been dealing with this weather, and connections within hubs, for longer than you've been alive ;)
 
I'm assuming that by "northern" you are meaning "above the freeze line"?

The issue is not so much their latitude, but the amount of traffic those airports have. O'Hare, for instance, is one of the busiest hub airports in the US, and Chicago can have some brutally snowy winters because of the Lake Effect. However, O'Hare also holds the record for most weather-related delays in summer as well. The issue is more the traffic than the weather: it is the second-busiest hub in the US, and it is near enough to Midway that when the weather is bad, the number of aircraft in the air over the city makes lining them up for takeoff and landing complicated.
As the day wears on, the delays stack behind one another, and they worsen for that reason.

The best way to fight weather-related delays at any time of year is to always try to fly as early in the day as possible, always try to take a flight that has as few stops as possible, and to avoid changing planes in your airline's major hub airports wherever you can. (That means that on Delta you'll have better luck connecting somewhere other than Atlanta, for instance.) SWA can be a problem in weather sometimes because a lot of their flights are milk runs; they stop a lot. The non-stop flight that we usually take to MCO from here originates in San Diego and makes 3 stops before it arrives here: in Phoenix, Omaha, and Chicago; weather along the route is a bigger problem for them because they are not just flying through it; they are taking off and landing in it. In summer thunderstorm season, the flight that normally leaves here at about 7 pm has often not landed here until after 9 pm, and often doesn't land at MCO until after midnight. (But it is the only evening flight from here, so we deal, LOL).

The other factor to be considered is the airline's turn time: this is the average time that each flight spends at the gate while the plane is loaded and unloaded. When weather delays are a factor, airlines with longer turn times usually fare better because they have built that part of the delay into the schedule. United schedules their flights with long turn times, and they can use that leeway to catch up somewhat when they get behind. (Also, UAL tends not to do that many short-hauls, so they get caught by fewer ground-stops as a rule.)

PS: Personally, I don't take flights that backtrack a time zone when connecting. There is no way I'd go from OKC > MCO via DEN. You'll feel much more sane connecting in HOU or STL, and a quick check tells me that the price difference is normally minimal.
 
Its been a while since I lived in Illinois. I remember winters that started in Nov and the snow was still there in March. Things do not shut down from snow. Here in Oklahoma schools have closed because they thought they were going to get snow, lol.

I guess I should not be as worried with the Northern states as I am with the Southern states.

I will look for a Early flight to MCO.
 
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Years and years ago, back when we all used to use Travel Agents, I had a fantastic one. The best piece of advice she ever gave me was; "When flying out of New England in the winter, and you HAVE to have a connection, connect as far south as you can".

For example, we fly out of Massachusetts every February and either go to Orlando, or Ft Myers. Ideally, I book non-stops. However, if I have to book a flight with a connection, the furthest north I will connect is Raleigh-Durham. We will also consider Atlanta, and Orlando (if flying to Ft Myers).

I know big storms can have ripple effect delays all over, but our chances are better if we're connecting through a southern airport. Plus, If we can get as far south as Atlanta, or a FL airport, it's drivable, and we can rent a car if need be.
 
Colorado is not a "northern" state! ;)

Keep in mind delays at one airport can affect a lot of other airports. Just because the weather is good in the south doesn't mean your flight won't be affected by bad weather in, say, the northeast. Winter flights are always at risk for problems due to bad weather.

For us here in Texas, Colorado is definitely north (well northwest).:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

When looking for airfare I've checked with Frontier flying out of DFW a few times, but always book with American or Spirit (direct/nonstop) or Delta (layover in Atlanta). Every single Frontier flight from DFW to MCO goes first northwest to Denver, then back southeast to Orlando. In Dec, why the heck would I want to fly northwest into a snow storm, just to turn around an hour later to fly back southeast?:rotfl::rotfl:
 
I am also from OKC and I am with NotUrsala. I pretty much refuse to go backwards to get to MCO. I tend to choose flights that connect in Texas or lately Atlanta. Southwest is my airline of choice and have not had problems. I also take total travel time in to consideration when booking. I will pay $10 more for a shorter travel time.
 
I am going to stay with Southern states. 'I am also going to fly SW so that I can cancel if a snow storm is coming and drive. In Oklahoma most snow/ice storms are in January but I do remember a couple years ago when we were snowed in at christmas. Also prices on SW are about the lowest I have found.
 
Oklahoman here, too. I have been flying annually to Orlando in late May/early June and early December for the last several years. I never consider a flight that has a connection in Denver, United mostly does that. And I stay out of Atlanta, too. :eek: My preferred are St. Louis or Memphis as those are the most direct routes possible to Orlando out of our region. Like a pp mentioned, I had more trouble with the thunderstorms late spring this year than any snow storm ever. :cutie:
 














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