DL Etiquette

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This is a pet peeve of mine. I know it is kind of crazy, but I pay attention to signs and instructions given over a PA system. I figured, if they are important enough to be printed or stated, there must be a reason. The ‘please fill in all the way to the end’ instruction is a perfect example.

Also, please do not stop in the middle of a busy thoroughfare to have a look around. If you are lost and need to check the map, or if you want to admire the view, step to the side please.
 
This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Jerry and George determine that it is okay to say anything you want as long as you preface it with the phrase, "With all due respect..."

>> :rofl: The internet version is "that's just my opinion" or "that's just how I feel..."

As far is bathroom emergencies, we can tell when they are real and we understand. However, if I had to take a child out of line for any reason, I would return at the end of the line or do it again later. Them's the breaks, kid. As a PP explained about leaving shows and pacing the lobbies, parenthood requires sacrifices.

>> Yep. The bathroom emergency is actually the one time I will gracefully allow someone to pass me in a line but I couldn't do it myself. It just feels so wrong.

On a related note, I would never take any of my kids to an amusement park during or soon after the potty training stage without pull-ups. Emergencies? Problem solved. They can continue the potty training when we get home.

>>Our next trip is timed contingent on DD being fully potty trained. If she's not, we'll push the date out. I do NOT want to do Disney with diapers again.

My other pet peeves have to do with anything that disrupts a ride: electronics, conversations, sing-alongs, quote-alongs, etc.

>>You forgot flash photography.

And as much as it pains me to admit it, I even agree that lightsabers should remain deactivated.

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Well, I am of the mindset that if children can't wait in line at Disneyland perhaps Disneyland isn't for them. Things like waiting in line and holding bladders until it's their turn to go potty are good learning opportunities.

Why are some people so unwilling to compromise? I believe that kids should behave in line and that people should not be jumping in and out of line for frivilous things, but there are some things that can not wait (the best example I can think of is a newly potty trained child not knowing he has to go until they are in line).

Why is it only you who shouldn't be inconvenienced, for example, by a child having to leave and return to the line for a potty break? In my opinion, that is a much less inconvenience to you, than the inconvenience it is to that whole family to either leave the line completely after having invested 20 minutes in line already...or worse, having the child not be able to hold it and have to go all the way back to the hotel to change clothes. But I guess your time in the park is more valuable than thier's, right?
 
>>Our next trip is timed contingent on DD being fully potty trained. If she's not, we'll push the date out. I do NOT want to do Disney with diapers again.

:goodvibes I am soooo looking forward to the day when all 6 of my children will be able to fully dress themselves, bathe themselves, and use the potty on vacation.

This really hasn't been a big problem for my family because we do a lot of planning and schedule frequent breaks, but we do go into any vacation knowing that:

1. We are not going to get as much done as other families.
2. We will be inconvenienced often, but we will still enjoy our time together (our kids are more entertaining that any ride).
3. Other people are not responsible for our children.
4. Kids can learn etiquette too. :goodvibes
 

Why is it only you who shouldn't be inconvenienced, for example, by a child having to leave and return to the line for a potty break? In my opinion, that is a much less inconvenience to you, than the inconvenience it is to that whole family to either leave the line completely after having invested 20 minutes in line already...or worse, having the child not be able to hold it and have to go all the way back to the hotel to change clothes.

This exactly. Amen.

Don't forget this ettiquette tip: Cut some slack. Someday it will be you that needs it.
 
I wanted to add an additional question related to the OP's questions: What is considered proper ettiquette for 'urgent' bathroom visits with the very young?

DD (almost 3) is potty trained, and we always visit the bathroom prior to shows and waits that may take longer, but sometimes she just has to go, pronto.

Is it alright to ask to take the next available stall (when there's a line) because your young child needs to use the bathroom, or risk having that accident? What do you think?

I would certainly allow another parent with a young child to go ahead in that situation, since I can relate, especially with the sometimes very long lines for the ladies'.

I can say that is someone with a small child asked me to go ahead I would say yes, as long as I wasn't feeling the need as urgently as the child in question.

This is part of the reason we waited to go to DL until our kids were older, we didn't want to have to worry about strollers or diapers or anything like that. When they were younger we just did 6 Flags. :)

I have elementary school kids both with special needs. It is important for people to remember just because a child "looks normal" you really don't know the situation ADD, ADHD, Autism, or underlying special needs like seizure disorder or certain types of sensory issues that can make waiting in extremely long lines tough. Also "holding it" is dangerous for everyone and some people forget to go until its a gotta go right now situation (Especially teachers and medical personnel) who habitually have to "hold it".

Now in my family it has become habit to not walk past a bathroom without everyone trying, however there are still those moment when 5 minutes later someone has to go :confused3.

I think the best way to think about things like the golden rule: Just ask how would I feel about ... and go with your gut. No one is going to please everyone 100% of the time.

Have a magical time and tons of fun!

Kris

Make sure you get a GAC if your family has someone with these special needs, it will cut down on wait time for some rides, not all but some. It won't help for the bathroom but it will help for other things. :)

I personally dont mind, If you've got the resources (meaning someone to hold your place in line.) use them. why sacrifice your time and your families in the park just all standing in line. You've come here to experience the park as a whole so do what you gotta do. I may sound cocky but thats the way it is. I didnt spend 200+ dollars to just stand in line.

No, I know it may sound harsh but thats just the way I feel. If I were to be standing in line and someone, was to pass me to try and catch up to their family I honestly wouldnt mind as long as they did it politely. Yeah If they go pushing me aside with out excusing themselves then yes I will say something.

I think you may have mis read my post, if youre implying by what I said that I use this "line jumping" you are mistaken. I dont have to worry about being ousted any more than you do when Im in the park. I simply said, that if someone were to do this, AS long as they did it politely I personally wouldnt mind it. It may have been my mistake to go into so much detail but thats the only point I was trying to reach. Nor that my time is more valuable than anyone elses in the park.:thanks:

I think you mis-stated in your first post. Your first post reads as if you would hold the line for someone in your party or expect someone to hold the line for you because you paid $200. Well I paid more because I've got an AP, or because I've got a 6 day park hopper, but I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to be OK with me pushing through the line because I didn't want to wait. I think what you meant to say was what you said in your second post. :)

I definitely think it's okay to take your younger ones out if they need some space, especially when waiting for rides like Star Tours that can get a bit warm and tight. This post made me think of my family who travels in large packs and when the group ranges from 8 to 82, it is inevitable that someone will have to go at some point. When we do need to leave the line we go in as small as group as possible and always try to be strategic when trying to reenter the line. Sometimes that means going to the exit and letting the cast members know you got split from your group. This leaves the least amount of people inconvenienced. But now I wonder, when the older kids split from the real young and the real old, sometimes we get halfway to the front and get thirsty so we will send a runner? Do people find this rude? I mean, they were in line before so it's not like they just appeared.

Also, when you have a group of ten or more 15+ year olds coming through the line, that was not a group that had to go to the bathroom at the same time, they had a place holder and I agree that's rude. However, in Disney spirit we never say anything and politely just move to the side of the line.

I carry a bottle of water with me throughout the parks, so does DBF, so do the kids. DBF generally has 2 or 3 bottles, I tend to have 1 or 2, the girls will have 1 or 2 as well. This means if we get thirsty halfway through the line we have something to drink on hand. I would find that an unnecessary reason to leave the line and re-enter, however, if it was done by just 1 person then it's more reasonable.

I think that cell phones are one of the world's worst inventions. They make people incredibly rude.

Texting and walking on a busy day at the park isn't a good combination. It drives me crazy when adults are playing on their phone while waiting in line with their kids. Isn't part of the point of going to amusement parks about spending time with loved ones? And yes, on rides, it is so rude! I think that you can wait until you get your family off of the Small World ride to call daddy and check in and have a visit about the meaning of life, etc.

It also drives me bonkers when 4 or 5 people cut in front of me to go looking for their family. Sometimes I wonder if they really have family at the front of the line.

Ok but don't just assume that adults are ignoring their kids when they are "playing" on their cell phones. I play games with my kids via the cell phone(s), we play in line, yes it might look like we are ignoring each other but in reality we are playing back and forth. In general I agree with you, but it really annoys me when people say things like "pay attention to your kids" or "get off your phone" or "talk to the people you're with instead of being so self-centered". I then have the pleasure of saying to those people "I'm playing a game with my kid(s), how is that being self-centered or ignoring my kid(s)?" lol Cell phones don't make people rude, the people who are rude with them would be rude without them.
I too get frustrated with those who push past "looking for their family", it's my general decision that the majority of them don't have family at the front of the line, rather they simply don't want to wait so push past and then they get to a certain point and just stop. I do know that if someone did that and stopped in front of me I would say something to the CM's working the ride.
 
:goodvibes I am soooo looking forward to the day when all 6 of my children will be able to fully dress themselves, bathe themselves, and use the potty on vacation.

This really hasn't been a big problem for my family because we do a lot of planning and schedule frequent breaks, but we do go into any vacation knowing that:

1. We are not going to get as much done as other families.
2. We will be inconvenienced often, but we will still enjoy our time together (our kids are more entertaining that any ride).
3. Other people are not responsible for our children.
4. Kids can learn etiquette too. :goodvibes

Thats my worry for our trip in a month. DD is just potty trained but has some number 1 accidents quite a bit of late. I am planning on bringing pull ups and lots of changes of clothes just in case. And we are planning on taking her to the potty quite a bit and not waiting for her to tell us she has to go. We have our plan but it will definitely be nice when we dont need that plan. I have had to get out of long lines several times at the store or restaurants because DD has to go and DW isnt there with me to take her or hold the spot in line. But as someone said its part of being a parent. We have to live on DD's schedule.
 
Holding a place in line for family friends doesnt bother me at all at DL. Only time that kind of thing bothers me is in a place like the grocery store or costco. I was in line at costco once and the person n front of me only had a few things in the cart. Then as we got closer to the check out he signled to whomever he was with and here comes 5 carts full of stuff as his family was out filling them up I guess. It was very busy and the lines were long as they often get. I was PISSED! I complained to the checker but they allowed it.
 
I don't have a problem when people with kids have one parent stand in line and the others join later- this only really works in an outside line though- if you are pushing past people because you have to reach the parent by walking past every (versus popping under a rope like at splash mountain) that can be pretty annoying. The unofficial guide to Disneyland has a list of rides that tend to work well with one parent. They include:
Jungle Cruise, Casey Jr. Circus train, king arthur carrousel, mr. toad's wild ride, snow white's scary adventures, tarzan's treehouse, dumbo, mad tea party, peter pan's flight, storybookland canal boats, autopia and (In DCA) Gold Zephr, king triton's carrousel, jumpin' jellyfish
 
Seriously-for all those anti-newly potty trained kids and getting out of line, would you rather they have an accident while on the ride? The reality is, yes, that can happen. I'm dealing with potty training a boy who doesn't want to stop the fun to go to the potty. Yes, we can take frequent breaks but I've been around plenty of little kids who all of a sudden says 'yes, I need to go now" I can really imagine what the situation would be if we said okay, we'll go potty, then start over in line. DS would deny deny deny that he needs to go and boom, on the ride he'd let loose. Of course, we'll run to the bathroom before we get in line but things change with the potty training set.

For us, we spend much less time at the park then the norm and will get there first thing. The longest line we stood in last year was Nemo for 45 minutes. I think everything will be very manageable, but I really hope in the rare circumstance everyone is not thinking "oh could have should have"

I'm one who always in the past has let a clearly newly potty trained kid, pregnant woman, or anyone else who clearly is having a potty emergency (and asks to go ahead) to go ahead. I know when I was pregnant, I really appreciated when others did that (and normally declined).
 
We're going to DL in 9 days and my 3 year old is about 80% potty trained (we started 2 months ago and it's taken much longer with her than it did with her brothers - we thought she would be trained for the trip - oh well :) We're doing pullups for backup, but even if we weren't I would say it's not really practical to expect people not to take children who aren't potty trained to Disneyland. People with muliple children could be waiting a very very long time! The last time we went (Oct '10) only my middle child was potty trained (and had only been for a few months- my older autistic son was still in pullups). Potty emergencies happen - it's life. We were lucky and only had to have a parent take a child out of line a couple of times, but when kids need to go, they need to go right away many times (and those lines can be long!). There was also several times when I was in a bathroom line and let a child doing the potty dance go ahead of me (even if they didn't ask).

I agree with some of the previous posts - be kind, cut people some slack, and keep in mind that just because you're cranky and hot, it does not make it okay to be rude or value your own time over some one else's.
 
I help with the Cubbies (3 yrs - pre-K) at a local church. We have a kid that every week, pretty much without fail, wets his pants. It's gotten to the point of my wishing his parents would put him in Pull-ups so we wouldn't have to deal with it every week...

When my girls were newly trained, I would often put them in Pull-ups when we were going out in public. Most of the time, they stayed dry, but they were a nice little insurance policy that were definitely worth it. I would highly recommend them when going to Disney because of the long bathroom lines that may occur. I would not recommend postponing a trip because of being newly trained (or in training), Pull-ups are an easy workaround and 2 is an awesome age to experience the Disney magic!
 
We're going to DL in 9 days and my 3 year old is about 80% potty trained (we started 2 months ago and it's taken much longer with her than it did with her brothers - we thought she would be trained for the trip - oh well :) We're doing pullups for backup, but even if we weren't I would say it's not really practical to expect people not to take children who aren't potty trained to Disneyland. People with muliple children could be waiting a very very long time! The last time we went (Oct '10) only my middle child was potty trained (and had only been for a few months- my older autistic son was still in pullups). Potty emergencies happen - it's life. We were lucky and only had to have a parent take a child out of line a couple of times, but when kids need to go, they need to go right away many times (and those lines can be long!). There was also several times when I was in a bathroom line and let a child doing the potty dance go ahead of me (even if they didn't ask).

I agree with some of the previous posts - be kind, cut people some slack, and keep in mind that just because you're cranky and hot, it does not make it okay to be rude or value your own time over some one else's.


I don't think anyone said that you shouldn't take a child who isn't potty trained to Disney, just that some of us feel like when we do that, the inconvenience should be on us, not on those around us. I personally prefer not to impose that inconvenience on myself.

I expect people to be gracious as I hustle my toddler *out* of line for a potty emergency. I expect them to cut me slack on that. I do not expect them to allow us *back into* the line. That's where I cut them some slack. They waited in line. For reasons of our own, my family or part of my family did not. They waited, I didn't. I can get in the back of the line and explain to my kid that *this* is why we potty before we get in line. I think that's fair and reasonable.
 
Thats my worry for our trip in a month. DD is just potty trained but has some number 1 accidents quite a bit of late. I am planning on bringing pull ups and lots of changes of clothes just in case. And we are planning on taking her to the potty quite a bit and not waiting for her to tell us she has to go. We have our plan but it will definitely be nice when we dont need that plan. I have had to get out of long lines several times at the store or restaurants because DD has to go and DW isnt there with me to take her or hold the spot in line. But as someone said its part of being a parent. We have to live on DD's schedule.

My DD generally just has the other kind of accident - but only at home :confused3 I assume she just gets a little lazy... I find that she does better when we are out and about, and can usually convince her to use the restroom when we are near one. We didn't have a single accident while we were at DL in January (3 days in the parks), and didn't bring pull-ups for daytime use, either. Just lots of extra undies and changes of clothing, and ziploc bags and wipes. We also brought her own toilet training seat, which made restroom visits a bit easier, and more familiar to her. Now she likes to hold on herself, so we're leaving it at home :)

I think it's useful to plan plenty of bathroom breaks, especially before shows and longer lines. And if you need to leave the line, so be it. In a few years, that won't be as much of an issue anymore. We're just adjusting to a very different touring strategy... Happy kid = happy parents.
 
We're going to DL in 9 days and my 3 year old is about 80% potty trained (we started 2 months ago and it's taken much longer with her than it did with her brothers - we thought she would be trained for the trip - oh well :) We're doing pullups for backup, but even if we weren't I would say it's not really practical to expect people not to take children who aren't potty trained to Disneyland. People with muliple children could be waiting a very very long time! The last time we went (Oct '10) only my middle child was potty trained (and had only been for a few months- my older autistic son was still in pullups). Potty emergencies happen - it's life. We were lucky and only had to have a parent take a child out of line a couple of times, but when kids need to go, they need to go right away many times (and those lines can be long!). There was also several times when I was in a bathroom line and let a child doing the potty dance go ahead of me (even if they didn't ask).

I agree with some of the previous posts - be kind, cut people some slack, and keep in mind that just because you're cranky and hot, it does not make it okay to be rude or value your own time over some one else's.

I completely agree with and what I have learned is that someone will always be bothered by something.

Off topic, have a wonderful time on your Cruise, we went in January and it was Amazing. What I would do to be on the Disney Wonder again :)
 
I have no problem with people who need to leave a line for a kid who needs to potty. I have no problem when they rejoin their group. It is really nice to hear people say "please" and "thank you" and "excuse me"when any of those things are appropriate to say to someone. If a person neglects to use these appropriate terms, I figure they did not get the memo that manners are free.

I do get hacked off when I see a group leave their grandma, in a wheelchair, out in the sun, to wait for them as they use the exit line and the "wheelchair" as an excuse-of-a-fast pass, when they don't even take grandma on the ride.

Lame.

We saw this happen on our last two trips:
1. Push Grandma to the front of the exit.
2. Argue over "how many people can go through the exit" with said person in a wheelchair.
3. Argue with the CM when the CM insists that it's only six.
Argue some more.
4. Whine, make excuses, whine some more. Snivel about how much it costs, how hard it is to drag grandma around.
5. Push, shove and run/walk to the next CM, to get on the ride.
-Grandma is left by herself, alone at the exit.-

And BTW- if you are reading this, and you did this to your grandma, I was the one that brought her a bottle of water, asked her how her day was going and offered her my sun hat.
I also came back 45 minutes later to ask her if she wanted a snack.

It was 101 degrees that day.
 
As long as we are being honest, YES that is exactly what you paid 200+ for, to wait in lines and see attractions. There is no ticket you can buy to get into DL that is a NO WAIT ticket.
Disney is a business and they have a section that caters to dignitaries, celebrities, and VIPs so I would be willing to wager that enough money could buy such a ticket, but $200 wouldn't be a drop in the ocean for such a privilege. :laughing:
 
Disney is a business and they have a section that caters to dignitaries, celebrities, and VIPs so I would be willing to wager that enough money could buy such a ticket, but $200 wouldn't be a drop in the ocean for such a privilege. :laughing:

There are VIP tours that will provide a much more expedited park experience. I believe they start at $125 an hour with a 4 hour minimum. :)
 
I have no problem with people who need to leave a line for a kid who needs to potty. I have no problem when they rejoin their group. It is really nice to hear people say "please" and "thank you" and "excuse me"when any of those things are appropriate to say to someone. If a person neglects to use these appropriate terms, I figure they did not get the memo that manners are free.

I do get hacked off when I see a group leave their grandma, in a wheelchair, out in the sun, to wait for them as they use the exit line and the "wheelchair" as an excuse-of-a-fast pass, when they don't even take grandma on the ride.

Lame.

We saw this happen on our last two trips:
1. Push Grandma to the front of the exit.
2. Argue over "how many people can go through the exit" with said person in a wheelchair.
3. Argue with the CM when the CM insists that it's only six.
Argue some more.
4. Whine, make excuses, whine some more. Snivel about how much it costs, how hard it is to drag grandma around.
5. Push, shove and run/walk to the next CM, to get on the ride.
-Grandma is left by herself, alone at the exit.-

And BTW- if you are reading this, and you did this to your grandma, I was the one that brought her a bottle of water, asked her how her day was going and offered her my sun hat.
I also came back 45 minutes later to ask her if she wanted a snack.

It was 101 degrees that day.

There is zero excuse for this.....I'm so glad you were so willing to help her out. :thumbsup2
 












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