Disney's VIP passes for bigwigs raise ethical questions

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From the Oralndo Sentinel:
Disney's VIP passes for bigwigs raise ethical questions
Scott Powers | Sentinel Staff Writer
April 10, 2008

Walt Disney World is offering politicians and other VIPs special passes that let them cut in line at popular rides such as Soarin' in Epcot and Expedition Everest in Disney's Animal Kingdom.

The unrestricted, all-day "FastPasses" are for elected officials or other "high-profile guests" who don't want to worry about logistical or security problems they might face while waiting in long lines, but who don't want a tour guide.

Spokeswoman Kim Prunty acknowledged that the passes were created for officials who are high-ranking enough in state, federal or even international affairs to travel with entourages -- officials for whom a long line could be more than an inconvenience. She said the passes are available to such officials and those traveling with them, but on a very limited basis determined case-by-case by Disney's government-affairs office. That is the same department that runs Disney World's lobbying efforts.

Disney maintains that the passes have no monetary value and so are not restricted by government ethics laws and do not have to be reported either as gifts to public officials or as a lobbying expense.

Prunty would not identify any of the people who have gotten the passes, nor would she talk about specific officials who might want them.

The practice of handing out the special passes is raising eyebrows among government-ethics watchdogs, who expressed concern that it might provide Disney -- which routinely lobbies state and federal government officials -- a way to offer a feel-good service just for politicians.

"It clearly is a perk," said Ben Wilcox, executive director of Common Cause of Florida.

Disney's government-affairs office first started providing the passes last fall. A couple of weeks ago, to alleviate any possible confusion, Disney World circulated a memo advising employees to recognize and honor the passes.

The memo, made available in part to the Orlando Sentinel, calls the passes "unique" and states that no more than 25 are in circulation on any given day.

Shannon McAleavey, Disney World's senior vice president of public affairs, which oversees government affairs, deferred all comments to the company's public relations staff.

Prunty compared the passes with the assistance airlines provide high-profile travelers to speed them through busy airports.

"We find that our very high-profile guests travel with a large group -- many times with a security detail -- that have the potential to disrupt the experience of our other guests; these passes help alleviate that," she explained. "We also have heard from security teams traveling with these high-profile guests that they would prefer they not be in the midst of large crowds or in any one place for an extended period of time."

Disney World's regular FastPass system, introduced in 1999, offers all visitors a chance to avoid some of the longest lines in its theme parks. A visitor who arrives at a FastPass-eligible attraction early enough in the day can obtain a FastPass ticket from a designated kiosk; the ticket is stamped with a time when the visitor may return and enter a special FastPass queue instead of the main, public queue.

At some attractions -- such as Soarin', Expedition Everest, Space Mountain in Magic Kingdom and Tower of Terror in Disney's Hollywood Studios -- wait times routinely exceed an hour and can top two hours.

The FastPasses distributed by Disney's government-affairs office are better than a regular FastPass because they are good at all FastPass rides, all day long. Ordinary FastPasses are printed in limited numbers, and supplies can run out before midday.

Gift- and lobbyist-reporting laws for public officials vary among local, state and federal governments and their branches. The Florida Legislature, for example, specifically allows its members to receive "priority for obtaining services where there is an established queue."

But several ethics experts told the Sentinel that, on other governmental levels and in other branches, rulings from specific ethics committees would probably be needed if anyone wanted to determine for sure whether line-jumping passes such as Disney's have any reportable value.

"It's a novel issue," said Kerrie Stillman, a spokeswoman for the Florida Ethics Commission.

Disney World did not formally seek any ethics rulings but did seek opinions from a variety of legal experts in the field, said Jacquee Polak, another Disney spokeswoman.

Wilcox suggested that, even without any legal problems, the idea of unlimited line-cutting in plain view of the public might prompt many officials to think twice before using such passes.

"If you're standing in line and you see your senator moving up to the head of the line, I don't know if that's going to look very good," he said.

SeaWorld and other Busch Entertainment Corp. theme parks in Orlando do not offer any such passes, and they do not offer line-jumping privileges to anyone, spokeswoman Becca Bides said.

Universal Orlando once had its own FastPass system, which it called an "Express Pass," but in 2006 the company stopped offering it for free. Now, visitors to Universal Studios or Islands of Adventure can buy "Universal Express" passes to get into shorter, express lines throughout the parks -- at prices ranging from $19.99 to $50.99.

Because those passes are available for sale, "We do not offer them to elected officials," Universal spokesman Tom Schroder stated in an e-mail.

Scott Powers can be reached at 407-420-5441 or spowers@orlandosentinel.com.
 
dont see much wrong in this,we elevate people to celberty status ect we dont want them waiting in line with the plebs
when stars ect go to disney there always given a vip treatment,at least these foks are doing something for the people
Paulh
 
dont see much wrong in this,we elevate people to celberty status ect we dont want them waiting in line with the plebs
when stars ect go to disney there always given a vip treatment,at least these foks are doing something for the people
Paulh

It's fine if you are talking about movie stars, but here in the US we have strict laws on how much money you can give elected representatives--and freebies count toward that total.

NASCAR had a similar problem a few years ago. They would give local elected officials free tickets to the Daytona 500 in the Winston Tower, complete with gourmet food and an open bar. They then claimed these tickets were worth either $49 or $99--exactly $1 less than the maximum value of a gift officials can accept. Needless to say, if average Joe Sixpack tried to buy one at that price, was out of luck. Last I heard, NASCAR quit doing this, and the various local commissioners have to buy their tickets now.
 
dont see much wrong in this,we elevate people to celberty status ect we dont want them waiting in line with the plebs
when stars ect go to disney there always given a vip treatment,at least these foks are doing something for the people
Paulh

The problem is that Disney is giving these perks to politicians, about the lowest life form {IMHO} so that Disney can cull favors from these clowns. And it makes no difference any more. Democrat, Republican, and any one of a namless rabble of other so-called political parties. They are in it [politics} for what it can get them for nothing..... Stepping down from my soapbox now.
 

The problem is that Disney is giving these perks to politicians, about the lowest life form {IMHO} so that Disney can cull favors from these clowns. And it makes no difference any more. Democrat, Republican, and any one of a namless rabble of other so-called political parties. They are in it [politics} for what it can get them for nothing..... Stepping down from my soapbox now.

ITA with this. If they want to play star-worshipper and give VIP passes to the likes of Tomkat and Brangelina, whatever, the whole stupid world falls at their feet anyway, then so be it. But don't go handing over favors to slimy politicians who only have their own interests in mind.

Of course, you WILL see the scumbags dragging their offspring to the parks in a lame effort to make it look like it's "for the children". ;)
 
So I should run for Congress to get free fastpasses....:lmao: :lmao:
 
I don't have a problem with high profile people getting the VIP passes, even politicians. Your run-of-the-mill city council member probably doesn't need it, because most people don't know who these people are. As long as it's to maintain order for other guests, it's fine. If Disney does it just to get special legislative treatment, it's not o.k. Can you imagine the kerfuffle if Dick Cheney had to stand in the regular queue?
 
. Can you imagine the kerfuffle if Dick Cheney had to stand in the regular queue?

thats what i meen imagine if obhama,clinton and maccain all turned up.
Then again think park would empty fast:rotfl2:
Paulh
 
I don't have a problem with high profile people getting the VIP passes, even politicians. Your run-of-the-mill city council member probably doesn't need it, because most people don't know who these people are. As long as it's to maintain order for other guests, it's fine. If Disney does it just to get special legislative treatment, it's not o.k. Can you imagine the kerfuffle if Dick Cheney had to stand in the regular queue?
I have a real problem with politicians (or celebrities for that matter) getting preferential treatment! We elect politicians to run government, not become first in line. When they are vacationing they should be like everyone else and wait where required. These people are just like the rest of us and should be treated as such. They also should have to pay the same as anyone else for services, food or whatever. The only possible exception would be the president and vice president and this is only because of the large security detail involved whenever they travel.

C'mon folks, stand up for yourselves and don't get run over by people who think they're god.
 
I have a real problem with politicians (or celebrities for that matter) getting preferential treatment! We elect politicians to run government, not become first in line. When they are vacationing they should be like everyone else and wait where required. These people are just like the rest of us and should be treated as such. They also should have to pay the same as anyone else for services, food or whatever. The only possible exception would be the president and vice president and this is only because of the large security detail involved whenever they travel.

C'mon folks, stand up for yourselves and don't get run over by people who think they're god.

Couldnt agree more!!
 
I have a real problem with politicians (or celebrities for that matter) getting preferential treatment! We elect politicians to run government, not become first in line. When they are vacationing they should be like everyone else and wait where required. These people are just like the rest of us and should be treated as such. They also should have to pay the same as anyone else for services, food or whatever. The only possible exception would be the president and vice president and this is only because of the large security detail involved whenever they travel.

C'mon folks, stand up for yourselves and don't get run over by people who think they're god.

Indeed, the politicians and celebrities who wait in line along with the rest of us - and don't expect or think they are entitled to preferential treatment - are those whom I would have the most respect for. As a practical matter, some celebrity individuals (but ironically not most politicians) are going to need special arrangements if for no other reason than to avoid being 'mobbed' in the park or queue line, but for most high-profile persons, even those from Hollywood, that is not going to be necessary.

A Presidential visit would probably (due to Secret Service requirements) mean a wholly or partially shut-off park anyway (if permitted at all), and I would suspect few other politicians would really have a problem being recognized outside of a political context. For instance, while you might recognize your Senators and Representatives, probably few people outside your state would know them unless they are in the national spotlight (Pelosi, Fred Thompson, etc.).
 
any of them are able to "rent a guide" at their own cost and get the VIP treatment.
 
ITA with this. If they want to play star-worshipper and give VIP passes to the likes of Tomkat and Brangelina, whatever, the whole stupid world falls at their feet anyway, then so be it. But don't go handing over favors to slimy politicians who only have their own interests in mind.

Of course, you WILL see the scumbags dragging their offspring to the parks in a lame effort to make it look like it's "for the children". ;)

Voters keep re-electing those slimy ones so we have no one to blame but ourselves.
 
I have a real problem with politicians (or celebrities for that matter) getting preferential treatment! We elect politicians to run government, not become first in line. When they are vacationing they should be like everyone else and wait where required. These people are just like the rest of us and should be treated as such. They also should have to pay the same as anyone else for services, food or whatever. The only possible exception would be the president and vice president and this is only because of the large security detail involved whenever they travel.

C'mon folks, stand up for yourselves and don't get run over by people who think they're god.
You Are Correct:teacher: I've been watching John Adams and what amazed me is how John Adam's wife actually wanted to toil in her garden! I wish our politicians and their spouses were more grounded. I can't stand snobs:snooty:

Voters keep re-electing those slimy ones so we have no one to blame but ourselves.
I vote, but I don't blame myself....I am certainly not a little lost lamb looking for the herd to tell me how to vote. I don't blame myself, I blame the ones who choose their candidates by who has more signs up, or who everyone else is voting for. :sad1: I wish everyone actually paid attention.:magnify:
 
We opened the North Rim of the Grand Canyon 3 weeks early last year for Bush, so he could visit and have the place to himself. He didn't show:confused:
 

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