Disney's Price Increases are obscene....

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I'll take Eisner...without the wand.

The bathrooms were cleaner, the staff was nicer and the food was better.
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If you can spend $11,000 for ONE week of vacation there should be no complaining about a few hundred extra in ticket price increases.
Why? If, you mind your pennies, your dollars will take care of themselves. Besides, it's not just ticket prices, that have increased. ;)

Airfare + 7 day PH + a 2 bedroom villa (for 6 people) = $11,000. Personally, I think, it's absurd. DVC takes care of our villa, but the prices are still ridiculous.

Many are DEPENDANT on heavy discounts and/or free dining. I already have accommodations, no need for a package. I pay through the nose for everything else. Have you priced TS for 6?
 
Ticket increases, under Iger.

2005
7 Day Magic Your Way Base / Adv PH - $186.00

Adult: $395.00 Annual Pass (renewals $355.00)
Child $336.00 Annual Pass (renewals $302.00)
Adult: $295.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $280.00)
Child $251.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $238.00)

2006
7 Day Magic Your Way Base / Adv PH - $236.00-$248.00

Adult: $415.00-$434.00 Annual Pass (renewals $375.00-$394.00)
Child $365.00-$382.00 Annual Pass (renewals $330.00-$347.00)
Adult: $315.00-$334.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $300.00-$309.00)
Child $277.00-$294.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $269.00-$272.00)

2007
Adult: $210.00-219.00 7 Day Magic Your Way Base / Adv PH - $248.00

Adult: $434.00-$448.00 Annual Pass (renewals $394.00-$408.00)
Child $382.00-$395.00 Annual Pass (renewals $347.00-$360.00)
Adult: $334.00-$348.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $309.00-$315.00)
Child $294.00-$307.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $272.00-$278.00)

2008
Adult: $219.00-$228.00 7 Day Magic Your Way Base / with PH - $264.00-$278.00

Adult: $448.00-$469.00 Annual Pass (renewals $408.00-$429.00)
Child $395.00-$414.00 Annual Pass (renewals $360.00-$379.00)
Adult: $348.00-$369.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $315.00-$324.00)
Child $307.00-$326.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $278.00-$286.00)

2009
Adult: $228.00-$234.00 7 Day Magic Your Way Base / with PH - $278.00-$286.00

Adult: $469.00-$489.00 Annual Pass (renewals $429.00-$449.00)
Child $414.00-$432.00 Annual Pass (renewals $379.00-$397.00)
Adult: $369.00-$389.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $324.00-$344.00)
Child $326.00-$344.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $286.00-$304.00)

2010
Adult: $234.00-$247.00 7 Day Magic Your Way Base / with PH - $286.00-$301.00

Adult: $489.00-$499.00 Annual Pass (renewals $449.00-$459.00)
Child $432.00-$450.00 Annual Pass (renewals $397.00-$415.00)
Adult: $389.00-$399.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $344.00-$354.00)
Child $344.00-$360.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $304.00-$320.00)

2011
Adult: $247.00-$267.00 7 Day Magic Your Way Base / with PH - $301.00-$322.00

Adult: $499.00-$519.00 Annual Pass (renewals $459.00-$479.00)
Child $450.00-$478.00 Annual Pass (renewals $415.00-$441.00)
Adult: $399.00-$419.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $354.00-$374.00)
Child $360.00-$386.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $320.00-$345.00)

2012
Adult: $267.00-$288.00 7 Day Magic Your Way Base / with PH - $322.00-$345.00

Adult: $519.00-$574.00 Annual Pass (renewals $479.00-$529.00)
Child $478.00-$574.00 Annual Pass (renewals $441.00-$529.00)
Adult: $419.00-$425.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $374.00-$385.00)
Child $386.00-$425.00 Annual Pass DVC (renewals $345.00-$385.00)


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I read an article this week about the changes at California Adventure. The writer of the article made the point that theme parks are bad investments because they have to employ too many people. The article made the comparison to how other companies can invest a billion dollars and build something that they need only a few hundred employees (instead of tens of thousands of employees) to operate.

I'm glad Disney ignores those things and still keeps up and adds onto their theme parks.
 

Many are DEPENDANT on heavy discounts and/or free dining. I already have accommodations, no need for a package. I pay through the nose for everything else. Have you priced TS for 6?

But you don't have to have table service meals. Or even buy food on-site for that matter. If you want a trip where you stay deluxe, eat table service every meal, and hop from park to park for days on end, it is going to cost you a lot.

But not everyone needs to or wants to vacation that way. And the great thing is, Disney doesn't force you to. You can stay off site, bring in your own food, and do only one park a day if you want. You can even get YES tickets to bring the cost down even more.

A trip to WDW can cost you as much as a small island, or it can cost you relatively little.
 
But you don't have to have table service meals. Or even buy food on-site for that matter. If you want a trip where you stay deluxe, eat table service every meal, and hop from park to park for days on end, it is going to cost you a lot.

But not everyone needs to or wants to vacation that way. And the great thing is, Disney doesn't force you to. You can stay off site, bring in your own food, and do only one park a day if you want. You can even get YES tickets to bring the cost down even more.

A trip to WDW can cost you as much as a small island, or it can cost you relatively little.

:thumbsup2 My point exactly - better said than I. You can stay on site, eat park/resort meals and still be lots less than $11,000 wk. especially when (if I understood OP right) their DVC is not included in this price. You (collective you) don't have to buy DDP. :goodvibes
 
The writer of the article made the point that theme parks are bad investments because they have to employ too many people. The article made the comparison to how other companies can invest a billion dollars and build something that they need only a few hundred employees (instead of tens of thousands of employees) to operate.

I would make the argument that the writer's magazine is employing one too many people.

Disney isn't in the theme park business -- they're in the entertainment business.
 
Yes, I have started re-thinking the value as well. We have bought mostly AP's since 1997. Six years ago we bought a 10 day non-expiring, which we still have four days left. I have been saving those four days from when my dd9 might become interested in the US types of rides (she's still timid of the roller coasters).

We are off to Hawaii in a few weeks. Airfare was a bear, but we justified it by making it an extended stay, which also meant a great deal on a condo and car rental. We'll prepare two meals a day. At 9, DD is ready for different experiences. An AP for the zoo will run us $20.00 (breakeven would be two visits) and the beaches are free.

Now it does turn out my DH has a conference early Dec at WDW. Chances are I will use our four remaining park hoppers, buy a MVMCP tickets and on that day just hang out at the pool until 4pm. We'll also stay off property. So Disney will only be making $ on any snacks or meals we purchase, parking, and the MVMCP. Previously, we would have purchased 3 AP's, a TIW (and done some signature dining) and stayed onsite.
 
But you don't have to have table service meals. Or even buy food on-site for that matter. If you want a trip where you stay deluxe, eat table service every meal, and hop from park to park for days on end, it is going to cost you a lot.

But not everyone needs to or wants to vacation that way. And the great thing is, Disney doesn't force you to.

You are missing the point, not comparing apples to apples. We have vacationed, that way for almost 30 years. We don't like counter service... don't want to leave the park and drive to a restaurant. Prices have increased drastically and quality. (subsidizing "free dining").
 
Enjoy Universal, I'll be in the Tequila Cave @ Disney. I'm not going to stress over a few extra bucks. EVERYTHING has gone up. Have you purchased orange juice lately?
 
$744 for all 4 parks plus Disney Quest, plus the water parks plus the pitch n putt golf course plus parking. Sure. That is a lot of money. But the local golf course here charges over $1,000 for an Annual membership and oh by the way, that only gets you reduced greens fees ($10 instead of $45.) It doesn't eliminate them. Shoot. An unlimited ride ticket at the county fair costs $40 for one day. When you compare Disney's price to various other options, it's a pretty good deal. Florida Resident passes with black out dates are much more reasonable than that though. If I were local, and could go all the time, I'd certainly take advantage and not care of the blackout dates. They're the busiest times anyway. Yes, Universal's AP is only $350. But that covers two parks and cover charges at city walk.

But we know and Disney knows too, what all those complaining are going to do don't we?
HOW DARE YOU RAISE MY PRICES!!! GIVE ME ________Insert number of renewals in the blank.

Originally Posted by kaligal View Post
I'll take Eisner...without the wand.

Eisner? The guy that gave us the Original DCA along with the gutting of Epcot? And note the original DCA had no tower of terror, no midway mania, no bug's land, no mermaid, no carsland, Superstar Limos instead of Monsters, Inc. As someone that considers DLR my home park, um no. Just no. Heck no!!! Eisner is gone and the land is a better place. I shudder to think what the place would look like with him still at the helm.
 
I personally think that Disney's prices are obscene if you believe they are and that they're not if you don't agree. Everyone has a different idea as to what something is worth and all of the fussing that something is or isn't doesn't seem to ever change anyone's mind.

I personally plan to go in a few months and we're staying onsite for the first time in a while. I just felt like doing it "one more time." After that, I will likely go elsewhere but mostly because the wanderbug has bit me. I want to see more of the world. Therefore, it's really hard to decide if WDW is worth the price any more. Level of interest drives that value higher. My interest is waning, at least for now and maybe that's somewhat true for the OP?

I do believe that dining is less appealing overall. I have felt that way for a long time but again YMMV.
 
You are missing the point, not comparing apples to apples. We have vacationed, that way for almost 30 years. We don't like counter service... don't want to leave the park and drive to a restaurant. Prices have increased drastically and quality. (subsidizing "free dining").

Prices everywhere have gone up. You can't eat a sit down meal outside of the parks now for what you would have paid 10 years ago. It is not just a Disney phenomena. No one pays for groceries today what they did 10 years ago either. At least a trip to WDW is a splurge, and not a need. If you still want to go, there are ways to make it more affordable. And there is the not so popular idea of not going if you can't afford it. Most of us still have to eat, so getting groceries is not a splurge.
 
For those complaining and quoting 11,000 dollar prices...

If Disney lowered their ticket price to $20 with $35 dollar a night hotels and two for 20 table services specials, would you really still want to go?

Or would you complain about the overcrowding, the "riff raff", the dirtiness, and begin to compare it to Six Flags or some county fair?

There are reasons many of us (myself included, not trying to throw stones!) will pay more for houses and apartments in certain neighborhoods with certain neighbors and certain schools.

I am hoping this doesn't sound too...snobby...but if you look at the overall atmosphere of less expensive parks, you will find them miserable, mostly due to the teenagers. It seems like, especially in CA, this is what Disney is trying to prevent. They want to be a destination, not the local entertain for the highschoolers. People already spending thousands will shrug at that $330 dollar increase.
 
The level of service would go down because they would not make as much money per guest, thus not be able to provide the same attentiveness per guest, not because the price was low enough to allow entry to the "riff raff." There are just as many rude, nasty wealthy people as poor people. Poor people can save up for a Disney vacation if it is important to them, too.
 
For those complaining and quoting 11,000 dollar prices...

If Disney lowered their ticket price to $20 with $35 dollar a night hotels and two for 20 table services specials, would you really still want to go?

Or would you complain about the overcrowding, the "riff raff", the dirtiness, and begin to compare it to Six Flags or some county fair?

There are reasons many of us (myself included, not trying to throw stones!) will pay more for houses and apartments in certain neighborhoods with certain neighbors and certain schools.

I am hoping this doesn't sound too...snobby...but if you look at the overall atmosphere of less expensive parks, you will find them miserable, mostly due to the teenagers. It seems like, especially in CA, this is what Disney is trying to prevent. They want to be a destination, not the local entertain for the highschoolers. People already spending thousands will shrug at that $330 dollar increase.

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I hate it when the discussion starts including worry about the "riff raff" and evil teenagers. The Six Flags parks include more of that element because they are regional parks and anything regional will lure all sorts of people. Besides the Disney parks certainly aren't immune to that.
 
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