Disneyland Tower - bad idea for a 1-bedroom-loving family?

[RoseGold]

See I don't think RIV is an example of points inflation. I think RIV is ACTUALLY better than VGF, in large part because I think the Skyliner is far superior to the monorail. (And I hate Riviera.)

Then I guess RIV should be matching CB cash rates, which would make it way overpriced. CB has an even better Skyliner location.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Then I guess RIV should be matching CB cash rates, which would make it way overpriced. CB has an even better Skyliner location.

Obviously not everything is monocausal. CB's Skyliner station is awesome... but their food and their rooms suck.

 

[Cleeevus]

When is it expected to go on sale? We're waiting to buy there also

On the DVC Fan Episode from 2/28 Pete mentioned June /July as his guess on when sales for DL Tower will begin and I’ve been trying to figure out what makes him think that. Doesn’t the resort have to be much further along in construction, as in almost complete, before sales can begin?

 

[larry47591]

On the DVC Fan Episode from 2/28 Pete mentioned June /July as his guess on when sales for DL Tower will begin and I’ve been trying to figure out what makes him think that. Doesn’t the resort have to be much further along in construction, as in almost complete, before sales can begin?

Maybe july of 2023

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

When is it expected to go on sale? We're waiting to buy there also

I would speculate next Spring/Summer. Construction continues!

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

On the DVC Fan Episode from 2/28 Pete mentioned June /July as his guess on when sales for DL Tower will begin and I’ve been trying to figure out what makes him think that. Doesn’t the resort have to be much further along in construction, as in almost complete, before sales can begin?

VGC went on sale 6 months before it opened (March vs Sept 2009), and since California timeshare laws are different from Florida ones, that’s the only data point I have. I don’t know if others track non-Disney timeshares in California.

 

[kmedina]

Could you get less points of both? This is what I am going to do. Right now, I am planning on 150 at both DLT and VGF2. I'll also have my 100 Aulani points I could use to do split stays at SSR or OKW in WDW in years we skip Hawaii. I can't see needing more than 150 at Disneyland unless we go multiple times a year. That is always a short trip for us and we are fine with a studio. However, I could also see us doing 200 VGF2, 100 DLT. It just depends on incentives and point charts. As long as I do not end up with more than 400 points, we're good. Because that buys a lot of studios!

 

[Royal Consort]

When has DVC ever done that? I know they COULD, legally, but off the top of my head, all of the resorts that are considered "better" or more expensive from a cash perspective tend to be roughly proportionally more expensive

Completely agree. DLT point chart will be below the flagship. The differential in cash between the two properties sets the point chart. Remember that VGC's point chart is already punishing. DVD won't be positioning DLT as the superior property. It could be 1-2 points below and nudge it though.

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

Completely agree. DLT point chart will be below the flagship. The differential in cash between the two properties sets the point chart. Remember that VGC's point chart is already punishing. DVD won't be positioning DLT as the superior property. It could be 1-2 points below and nudge it though.

I thought that way at first. But let’s be honest, Boardwalk has the 2nd cheapest point chart at WDW but is probably the 2nd or 3rd most desirable property. They've clearly decided that they should just ignore prior point chart mistakes and set the points as they see fit.

I think it’s very likely DLVs point chart will resemble VGCs.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

Then I guess RIV should be matching CB cash rates, which would make it way overpriced. CB has an even better Skyliner location.

CB is not RVA, though. It's a separate resort and the whole package of offerings (not just location) is different. They made RVA more upscale so they could charge more cash and points.

Completely agree. DLT point chart will be below the flagship. The differential in cash between the two properties sets the point chart. Remember that VGC's point chart is already punishing. DVD won't be positioning DLT as the superior property. It could be 1-2 points below and nudge it though.

I agree with this! I think there's truth to both arguments on this thread, BWV presents a good example of the discrepancy between cash rates and point charts. But the cash rates are pretty different between GC and DLH so I think the point charts will come in slightly below at DLT. It's not just the location, the overall resort offerings are different. Something akin to PVB and BLT being below VGF. The latter is more upscale and has a spa, like GC.

 

[RamblinWreck]

BLT and PVB points charts mirror the cash pricing at the Contemporary Tower and Polynesian Village hotel sides. Poly costs more in points, but it also costs more in cash.

Copper Creek is priced below Bay Lake Tower standard, and slightly below AKV Savanna, which is exactly where it belongs.

Yeah I’m not really seeing any evidence to support the idea that point charts just go up, and aren’t correlated to the cash price of those resorts.

The contemporary has always been the resort for the people who want to be on the monorail, but don’t want to spend up for the other two monorail resorts. Since well before DVC ever factored in.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Yeah I’m not really seeing any evidence to support the idea that point charts just go up, and aren’t correlated to the cash price of those resorts.

Just Old Key West, which is priced pretty much equal to Saratoga in cash but has a favorable points chart. I think a lot of this sentiment set in when the Riviera points chart came out and people hadn't experienced the resort itself or the Skyliner yet. People don't like that it's priced higher than Boardwalk and Beach Club, but if you compare the resorts side-by-side, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

 

[Disneygirlie93]

I think it will depend on the chart. There’s no reason the DLT chart can’t be even higher than VGC. Crazy pricing on the 1BR might make it stick around a little.

Just from a longer term perspective, I don’t see why you’d buy in California as Florida residents. You open yourself up to their laws and your estate would have to probate there if something happened.

It’s funny, because even as I was typing up the question I was starting to lean away from DLT. I think it makes more sense for us to just stick with Florida contracts, for the exact reason you mentioned.

 

[Sandisw]

CB is not RVA, though. It's a separate resort and the whole package of offerings (not just location) is different. They made RVA more upscale so they could charge more cash and points.

I agree with this! I think there's truth to both arguments on this thread, BWV presents a good example of the discrepancy between cash rates and point charts. But the cash rates are pretty different between GC and DLH so I think the point charts will come in slightly below at DLT. It's not just the location, the overall resort offerings are different. Something akin to PVB and BLT being below VGF. The latter is more upscale and has a spa, like GC.

I I just don’t get why RIV being next to CBR is such a big deal It’s actually a nice view when hanging at waters edge..at least IMO.

It’s just so peaceful and beautiful resort and think its point chart supports it.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

I I just don’t get why RIV being next to CBR is such a big deal It’s actually a nice view when hanging at waters edge..at least IMO.

It’s just so peaceful and beautiful resort and think its point chart supports it.

It is very nice, especially in the evening when it's all lit up and it reflects on the lake

Agreed, the point charts makes sense to me based on the resort and the quality and spaciousness of the rooms. Honestly, there isn't a WDW resort that I dislike, I can appreciate the work and styling at all of them and I'm happy wherever I'm staying on property (especially if in a DVC room). BUT, having stayed at almost all the resorts now I can say RVA is definitely in our top three favorites!

Also, I don't think it's really "such a big deal" to a lot of people. Some folks are just rather vociferous with stuff they dislike