Disneyland is getting filled with rude guests

[Albort]

Albort-what did they say?

they were cussing and such... then they went on about how crap these Ice Cream and then how expensive the ice cream is... then come comments about me like Low life yata yata yata... :\

I didnt say anything but our usual statement at the end is "Thank you, have a nice day!" I said that in Chinese and they freaked out and shuffled away quickly.

again, i think its the heat that is getting to people... even for me...

 

[TheZue]

Albort that is priceless hahaha. Perfect classy way to let them know they were being jerks. My grandfather understood 8 languages since he grew up in Europe. In the nursing home he used to amuse himself by eaves dropping on the residents who thought they were having private conversations since he never let on that he knew any other languages. So I totally agree people are making a huge assumption when they talk in another language to keep conversations private.

I would guess a lot of this is the crowds though. The line jumping is unacceptable anytime; as is people running into stationary targets. I think a lot of the bumping in crowds without saying sorry might be because EVERYONE gets bumped around in big crowds and people may not realize they just bumped into somebody or ran over a foot.

 

[XTinabell]

We had a very good experience and a very bad experience on our last trip to Disneyland. I'll start with the bad. We had staked out a spot for the parade, but hadn't taken up a large amount of room. All of a sudden this family of 5 adults, including one in a wheelchair, come in front of us. We politely ask them to move so that my 3 year old could see the parade and the woman's suggestion is that I put my 3 year old on her 80 year old husband's lap (the one in the wheelchair) to watch the parade. Luckily her daughter stepped in and told her that wasn't a good idea because she was about to get a piece of my mind. Then out of nowhere this other family gets involved who doesn't know any of us and starts explaining how they were polite enough to move back to make room for this family. Ok, so I'm not nice. Sue me. I have a 3 year old who I care more about. Plus this guy's wheelchair couldn't even fit behind the room. A CM came over and told them have special seating for people in wheelchairs and their family and moves them. Problem solved, right? Wrong. The people who got involved start saying how we technically stole their spots because they were first there, which they weren't. Then one of the women made her 10 yr old stand the whole time, just to make sure she blocked the view of my 3 year old. So mature. And the poor girl looked so uncomfortable. And don't even get me started on the family who came late to the parade and then tried to push their 4 kids to the front, trying to get them to crawl over me!!

I hate when parents use their children as pawns to get their way. This wasn't at disneyland but your story reminded me of it. My dh and I went to see Shrek the opening night and were first in line. This woman behind us had a couple of kids that were running all over the place, so when I turned around and saw a child standing in front of me I thought nothing of it. The child spoke sweetly to me (she had a black eye so I felt a little sorry for her), she was very polite but then I started getting a funny feeling. So I looked around trying to see if the woman behind me would call her kid back to her but the woman wasn't paying any attention to this child. Then the crew comes over to open the door and the child in front shouts out to these women sitting on a bench not in line "DON'T WORRY MOM I'LL GET US THE BEST SEATS" then races through the doors before they're barely opened into the theatre and yes takes the best seats. I was furious! Those women on the bench had their child cut in front of the line, and clearly this wasn't the first time the child was a pro. Talking kindly pretending like she was a child of the woman behind us. Well we sat behind them and heard the girl say to her mom when her mom finally got in "mom, I cut in front of these stupid people and I told them yes I'm standing in front now whatcha gonna do about it, hahahaha" and the mom goes "Good job sweetie"

they were cussing and such... then they went on about how crap these Ice Cream and then how expensive the ice cream is... then come comments about me like Low life yata yata yata... :\

I didnt say anything but our usual statement at the end is "Thank you, have a nice day!" I said that in Chinese and they freaked out and shuffled away quickly.

again, i think its the heat that is getting to people... even for me...

I agree Albort, I think the heat does play a factor.

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[cyberdeb]

However, if you stop right in front of me for no reason (why do people do this in the middle of the road/walkway) you might get hit the heals. I do always apologize though.

This is my biggest pet peeve. WHy in the world do people do this. They start a chain reaction and then wonder why people bump into them. If you have to stop, please move to the side and stop, not in the middle of a crowded walkway.

When staking out our spot at DCA for the EP, there was a family next to us that had two adults and three children. They had one of their kids sitting on the curb with two sweatshirts holding spots for the other two kids. The mother had taken two of the kids to the rest room while dad and other kid waited. The other kid kept lifting the sweatshirt up and several times i saw someone waiting to take the spots and i said something to the father. The dad told him to sit down and leave the shirts there. Well he got up to tell dad something and dragged the swearshirts with him and three women dove right into the spot. It was like they were waiting for him to do it. They knew darn well what they did and acted so innocent. My dd wanted to sit on the bench with me so we gave them our spot and just asked them not to stand in front. They were very grateful and thanked us profusely.

 

[kiwitravel]

Its called selfishness..... I am from New Zealand, a world away from USA in so many ways. New Zealand is about the size of California but with a population of only 4 million so we are pretty spread out! I have noticed even here in our slice of paradise that people have become more selfish, interested in only how something affects them and not the bigger picture. There has always been a percentage of people that will be rude, queue jump without guilt, cheat what is happening is that percentage is getting bigger and becoming more noticable. My attitude is you cannot change the whole world but you can influence that which is around you, your children and their friends for example and even that queue jumper coming up through the line. If it was a parent and young child then I used let them pass, but anyone else I simply told them "they would have to get their friends to wait or come back for them as you can't just push through the line" most accepted it without question, some looked embarrassed and left the line, some waited until they could bypass me and cut across the line elsewhere (often in full view of CMs). I believe DL should take ownership of this problem and publish on the map a "line policy" on what is acceptable and what isn't (and enforce it). For example:
1. It is acceptable to have someone hold you a place in the line as long as it for a short time and does not involve you having to push through the line when you rejoin it
2. People found deliberating line cutting may be asked to leave the park and denied re-entry
A clear policy with ramifications for offenders would take care of the problem I'm sure.

 

[SunDevilDaddy]

I'm sure I hold the minority opinion here but to me it seems like there are two sides to that coin.

1. People are becoming more and more rude and selfish and are willing to line cut without any regard for the people behind them.

But 2....

It seems that patience and kindness have also gone the way of the dodo and when parties are seperated and need to regroup no one volunteers to let them get back together easily. Rather you see a lot of the "I was here first" attitude. I guess what I'm saying is kindness is a two way street and sometimes perhaps those groups that were seperated have good reason. But a few bad apples spoil it for everyone.

At Disneyland at least I think everyone should be on their best behavior and allow the littlest children to stand or sit up front for the parades and shows, step out of the way if your a large group waiting for autographs (or sihlouttes like DinsyJamie experienced) and all in all extend the magic from just the park rides and CMs to a sense of "Wow Disneyland is a magical happy place and everyone was great"

Now to balance out the posts... We actually had plenty of good experiences while at the park on our visit. There were 1 or 2 bad visits, but when my wife turned her ankle she was not able to stand on it for long the rest of the trip and had to sit down frequently. Most everyone was very nice and understanding when she exited a line to take pressure off it. They always made an attempt to help her back through and were polite and patient. In return we were very polite to others and offered to let small groups around us, allow others to encroach on our space for parades and shows especially when their children couldn't see, etc.

What goes around... comes around.

 

[JadeDarkstar]

ok i may be one that trys get best seats and what not. im small and some times sitting back cant see. but still if i was to take my son to rest room and catch up..i would say excuse me oh sorry. and things like that. I would never run over some one run in to some one steap on some one.. jess and not say sorry..where in the world were these barbi dolls raised..the world dosnet revolv around them and how dare they not say sorry..they would hate to see me.. if they ran over my foot...ohhh i already have enough problems..now if they said sorry thats cool it happines but if they didnt ohh my mouth would be going

the teens relly get me but yes ive seen the pricy moms .. Its just wrong. My parents tough me how to be respect full say sorry and stuff

and the guy in the electric whell chair..how dare he... he ramed in to you and he shouldnt have been going that fast.

 

[kiwitravel]

I take your point, we did have occasions when we found one or more of our party could not wait in line with the rest of the party but on those occasions those that were in line waited and would let the people behind us go through when the line reached a point that those following would have to push past others to catch up. In our opinion pushing through the line is not only rude but also dangerous.

DL is well catered to handling people with disabilities, if someone can't wait in the queue then that person can enter through the exit gate and ride with their party once they reach the head of the line.

For the record less than half of the people who tried to push past me actually were meeting up with someone ahead in the line!! They just didn't want to wait....

 

[Welivefordisney]

Bad experience - but not restricted to DL.
We had the same sort of experience at Disneyland with son, who is in a wheelchair(he is 7 years old). People would stop with their children and stare at my son. I have spent the last 7 years explaining to my children that we have to forgive these people for being rude, they have not been taught any better than to stare! I don't mind a child(or adult for that matter) asking a polite question, but the people (mainly adults) stopping and staring really irritates me, mainly because they stop right in front of my son which makes him stop and wait for them to get out of his way.... he usually gets a very exasperated look on his face and tries to go around them.

Ok, that being said. We had a very very pleasant experience with the CMs doing a great job of buffering park goers....
We did have Capt. Jack come to our rescue (of sorts). My DS and DDs met Capt Jack the second day of our trip. He stopped by while we were at the BBQ Bangel (he was on his way to the door out for a break) and he spent about 10 minutes playing and visiting with my son. The next day we were walking through New Orleans when we saw Capt Jack wandering through with a HUGE crowd around him for autographs. He stopped and yelled to my son (calling him by name) and come over to visit. Several people in the crowd got very upset because Capt Jack stopped to sign my sons orthotic (looks like a peg leg - true pirate - my son's comment - I am not being disrespectful to my DS) anyway.... these people actually starting complaining about how they had been waiting and they had to leave - apparently wanting Capt Jack to jump to their attention. The CM with Capt Jack very politely told the snarling park goers that when it comes to Capt Jack, he does what he wants, when he wants and if he wants to stop and chat with a child there is nothing the CM or the crowd can do about it. The CM was very very courteous to the crowd and the grumbling stopped immediately.
It was a wonderful moment that was saved by a wonderful CM!!

 

[noryglory]

^ What a great story!! Your son will remember that for a long time!

 

[JenDisneylandlver]

I have no need to practice patients or kindness to people who are very obviously being rude and selfish. There are many times we get split up. We meet BEFORE getting in a new line. It really isn't that difficult. I find cutting and pushing your way through the line very rude.

We wait for good spots for parades too. So no I'm not going to be okay with a family 5 minutes before the parade starts sitting in front of me. I may be okay with letting a few small children do that, but that is only if I feel there is enough room. I also appreicate if people ask if their kids can. Otherwise want to make sure you and your kids get to see it in a great spot? Wait like we did!

The people with strollers that will run you down, or those who just stop smack in the middle of a walk way drive me nuts too! I've also been known to pass people up in line if they NEVER move because of talking and not paying attention. I will remind them politely a few times that the line is moving, but keep it up and I just move on! I have no patients for rude people, nor do I feel I should.

 

[bumbershoot]

haha, you think thats bad...

I speak fluent Chinese... but i dont look Chinese...
so what does that matter?

Well, if you plan to diss the CM, dont think its a good idea to diss in your language that the CM happens to know... DUMB DUMB...

happened today... damn teenagers...

Oh that's too hilarious. I don't know why people think others can't speak their languages.

In HS, I worked at a fast food place, and had just finished with 4 years of Spanish. Some of my co-workers were from Mexico, and for about 3 days enjoyed talking ABOUT me right in front of me. "la rubia" this, "la rubia" that. But I finally said something back when they started using rather naughty words (complimentary, but not nice to say about a 16 year old)...can't remember what I said, but it was in passing in another conversation...I enjoyed watching their faces as they thought back to ALL of what they had said in the days before. (I was learning and working really hard, no time to figure out what I wanted to say before that)


DH is half Korean, but looks more like he would speak Spanish (all his life, completely random people will ask him questions in Spanish), and he stuns people speaking Korean, who think he doesn't understand, around him. Though the service at the Korean markets does get better after that!




Strollers...I can't let DH push the stroller while in crowds. For some reason he just doesn't seem to understand how far out the front wheel goes (jogging stroller that we take to farmer's markets, etc), and the last time we went I watched people get SO annoyed at him, while he remained clueless. I had to just push him aside and take over, so that people would stop glaring. He had no idea that putting that front wheel RIGHT near people could possibly feel pushy and rude to others! (despite that fact that WE hate having a stroller right on our heels)

 

[dxwwf3]

This is the one negative aspect of my DL trip last month. I used to think people were rude at Disney World, but after one week at Disneyland, I no longer think things are so bad there. First let me say that the CM's at Disneyland were overall nicer and more personable than what I was used to at Disney World and they are almost always wonderful as well. I know that more people work at WDW and there is a higher percentage of finding someone on an off day, but there was not one single below par experience with DL CM's. But the guests themselves were unbelievable. Yes I'm from a small town in the South who has visited Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, and Orlando multiple times (especially Orlando), but nothing compares to what I saw at DL.

The posts about people trying to use their kids to their advantage were commonplace. I stood in a spot for Fantasmic for 30 minutes and once the show started parents basically pushed their kids into me to try and get my spot for their child AND themselves. The words "Excuse Me" or "I'm sorry" must be considered profanities in Southern California . Luckily not everyone was like that though, but it certainly seemed like rudeness was more common that what I was used to at WDW.

 

[Saavy?]

I have tried to resist, but I am going to jump into this topic with both feet.

I must say, I am in agreement with JenDisneylandlver.

Why?...
Because I work my frigging tail off all year to afford my annual vacation to Disneyland.

Because I didn't work a zillion hours of grueling overtime to be there and have others treat me with disrespect.

Because this is my "happy place" and I refuse to let others piss on my parade.

I have as much right to be there as you, therefore stop acting like my time is less important than your time.

Most of all, I have just worked a year in the ER putting up with bad manners, & rude behavior and I HAVE REACHED MY LIMIT regarding this kind of mindless disregard for others.

So...
Pee before you have to get in line. ASK your whole party who needs to pee first, before getting in the danged line.

You want to eat, fine... buy it BEFORE you get in line and munch it while waiting in line.

Oh, your party is way up there in the line ahead of me. Too bad. Send one of your party ahead (outside the line) and tell them they are going to have to wait up for you, instead of you trampling all over me to get to them. I detest those people who try to pull this ploy when there is actually nobody waiting for them, they are just forcing their way to the front and wearing "those idiots" sh*t-eating grins as they do it. Sorry, but you are not getting past me. The buck stops where I am standing. I refuse to do it to others, I do not tolerate it from others.

What makes you so special that you cannot initiate common manners when dealing with other people? "Please," "excuse me," "thank you." Where are common manners??? This galls me badly. Manners are what keeps us civilized. Without them you have anarchy and resentment. If you cannot be polite, I still will, and I will tell you about your lack of manners in no uncertain terms, since you have obviously forgotten how to use them.

If you intentionally and rudely push me out of your way without so much as a "by your leave" I will talk to a CM and request and assault and battery charge on your impolite butt and see if that gives you pause to rethink your behavior.

I know this sounds hard-core, but of course there are exceptions.
My bottom line is that this kind of behavior occurs because they are not called on it. It will continue, unless they are made aware that it IS NOT acceptable to act that way. I am no meek wallflower, so I have no problem POLITELY calling them on it. You can get your point across with kindness, so I am never rude about it, and never raise my voice.
If you choose to let others abuse you with rudeness, that is your choice.
I was raised with good manners, employ them in everyday life, and should not have "to hope" that others will do so.

Ok, I am fireproofed now and ready to get flamed for this posting!

 

[kiwitravel]

I'm with you.... The more people that say no to those trying to push through the line, the sooner those people who do it will realise it is unacceptable...

 

[Albort]

heh, i feel so disgusted on what i saw today...

i nearly wanted to call Child Services today... :\

 

[JenDisneylandlver]

I have tried to resist, but I am going to jump into this topic with both feet.

I must say, I am in agreement with JenDisneylandlver.

Why?...
Because I work my frigging tail off all year to afford my annual vacation to Disneyland.

Because I didn't work a zillion hours of grueling overtime to be there and have others treat me with disrespect.

Because this is my "happy place" and I refuse to let others piss on my parade.

I have as much right to be there as you, therefore stop acting like my time is less important than your time.

Most of all, I have just worked a year in the ER putting up with bad manners, & rude behavior and I HAVE REACHED MY LIMIT regarding this kind of mindless disregard for others.

So...
Pee before you have to get in line. ASK your whole party who needs to pee first, before getting in the danged line.

You want to eat, fine... buy it BEFORE you get in line and munch it while waiting in line.

Oh, your party is way up there in the line ahead of me. Too bad. Send one of your party ahead (outside the line) and tell them they are going to have to wait up for you, instead of you trampling all over me to get to them. I detest those people who try to pull this ploy when there is actually nobody waiting for them, they are just forcing their way to the front and wearing "those idiots" sh*t-eating grins as they do it. Sorry, but you are not getting past me. The buck stops where I am standing. I refuse to do it to others, I do not tolerate it from others.

What makes you so special that you cannot initiate common manners when dealing with other people? "Please," "excuse me," "thank you." Where are common manners??? This galls me badly. Manners are what keeps us civilized. Without them you have anarchy and resentment. If you cannot be polite, I still will, and I will tell you about your lack of manners in no uncertain terms, since you have obviously forgotten how to use them.

If you intentionally and rudely push me out of your way without so much as a "by your leave" I will talk to a CM and request and assault and battery charge on your impolite butt and see if that gives you pause to rethink your behavior.

I know this sounds hard-core, but of course there are exceptions.
My bottom line is that this kind of behavior occurs because they are not called on it. It will continue, unless they are made aware that it IS NOT acceptable to act that way. I am no meek wallflower, so I have no problem POLITELY calling them on it. You can get your point across with kindness, so I am never rude about it, and never raise my voice.
If you choose to let others abuse you with rudeness, that is your choice.
I was raised with good manners, employ them in everyday life, and should not have "to hope" that others will do so.

Ok, I am fireproofed now and ready to get flamed for this posting!

Exactly how I feel, trust me after my post I was ready for the flames too! But that's how I feel, we work hard for our money too, and want to be able to enjoy our vacation. Hard to do when more then a few times during the day someone is shoving you against the wall to get by. Or trying to steal a spot you've earned by waiting! I'm a very polite person and I'm bringing my son up to be the same way. I go out of my way at DL to make sure I don't be rude to others in all of the ways mentioned here. I don't think any of those things are unreasonable. Yes there are exceptions, but I believe those should be a lot more fewer and far between then what we saw. And even then some manners would be nice! I also refuse to let others just treat me like that either.

 

[XTinabell]

I also refuse to let others just treat me like that either.

I have tried to resist, but I am going to jump into this topic with both feet.

I must say, I am in agreement with JenDisneylandlver.

Why?...
Because I work my frigging tail off all year to afford my annual vacation to Disneyland.

Because I didn't work a zillion hours of grueling overtime to be there and have others treat me with disrespect.

Because this is my "happy place" and I refuse to let others piss on my parade.

I have as much right to be there as you, therefore stop acting like my time is less important than your time.

Most of all, I have just worked a year in the ER putting up with bad manners, & rude behavior and I HAVE REACHED MY LIMIT regarding this kind of mindless disregard for others.

So...
Pee before you have to get in line. ASK your whole party who needs to pee first, before getting in the danged line.

You want to eat, fine... buy it BEFORE you get in line and munch it while waiting in line.

Oh, your party is way up there in the line ahead of me. Too bad. Send one of your party ahead (outside the line) and tell them they are going to have to wait up for you, instead of you trampling all over me to get to them. I detest those people who try to pull this ploy when there is actually nobody waiting for them, they are just forcing their way to the front and wearing "those idiots" sh*t-eating grins as they do it. Sorry, but you are not getting past me. The buck stops where I am standing. I refuse to do it to others, I do not tolerate it from others.

What makes you so special that you cannot initiate common manners when dealing with other people? "Please," "excuse me," "thank you." Where are common manners??? This galls me badly. Manners are what keeps us civilized. Without them you have anarchy and resentment. If you cannot be polite, I still will, and I will tell you about your lack of manners in no uncertain terms, since you have obviously forgotten how to use them.

If you intentionally and rudely push me out of your way without so much as a "by your leave" I will talk to a CM and request and assault and battery charge on your impolite butt and see if that gives you pause to rethink your behavior.

I know this sounds hard-core, but of course there are exceptions.
My bottom line is that this kind of behavior occurs because they are not called on it. It will continue, unless they are made aware that it IS NOT acceptable to act that way. I am no meek wallflower, so I have no problem POLITELY calling them on it. You can get your point across with kindness, so I am never rude about it, and never raise my voice.
If you choose to let others abuse you with rudeness, that is your choice.
I was raised with good manners, employ them in everyday life, and should not have "to hope" that others will do so.

Ok, I am fireproofed now and ready to get flamed for this posting!

Not sure if I agree with the charging for assualt and battery, but the rest I see your point. I would like to know, how you keep people from pushing past you though? I've tried politely telling people, I was here first yada yada, but it can cause unncessary fighting and cause a scene and in the end I just get more angry. So what are your experiences with putting your foot down? Has it ever caused a fight? Personally I'd rather let them pass me and silently fume than start a fight in disneyland.

 

[NeverWantToGrowUp]

I encountered a rude grandma this past spring break in WDW animal kingdom. We were in line for TricerTop Spin ride. Once the gate opened for our turns, my 3 year old son walked in and had one foot into the triceratop while I was trying to catch up with him. Before I can reach him, out come this grandma, shoved him out of the ride so she and her husband can get in. Turned out her grandkids were in the dino behind the one my son had one foot in. My son promptly bursted into tears. Was I flammed! Shoved a 3 years old out of a ride so she can take pictures of her grandkids! I couldn't confront her right there because apparently my son and I were holding up the ride. But afterward when I walked up to her and confronted her, she just gave me the dirty look and accused me for "accusing her" pushing a child which she claimed "she would never do that in her life". I had been to WDW, disneyland over 13 times in the last 15 years, this is by far the worst and the ruddest incident I have ever encountered. Yes, I almost lost it and was tempted to bob her on the head but probably would have end up in national news for beating up a grandma!

 

[sameyeyam]

I went to DL in June for the first time in over 25 years. I have been going to WDW every year for the past several years. I really don't seem to notice a lot of rude people. What I do notice is crowded hot parks and tired people with tired & cranky kids. I think what we all need to do is be a little more considerate and compassionate to all of the people we encounter in the parks. If you do something nice for someone and act polite it is usually contagious. If everyone visiting does something special or goes out of their way to be pleasant, then we will all have a more Magical time.

So what if someone cuts in line in front of you, so what if someone takes a kid to the bathroom while the rest of the family is waiting in line, so what if someone bumps into you and doesn't say excuse me. Trust me in the whole scheme of life it's not really that important.

The next time we go to Disney I will take along some stickers to give to little kids while waiting in line, help someone trying to balance a stroller, 3 kids and a food tray and bring extra snacks down to the pool for the other kids. And I'm sure I will have an awesome vacation!

Each and every one of us could be dead tomorrow. What is important is that we enjoy our vacation time with our friends and family. So lets all put a smile on our face and spread the Magical Moments!