Disneyland at Christmas/Holiday Season Superthread #3!- HOLIDAYS BEGIN 11/12/13!!

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Last year one of my daughters and I went to Disneyland in mid November and thoroughly loved seeing the Christmas Fantasy Parade and the Believe in Holiday fireworks. I have another trip booked this year for November 16-21 with my other daughter and I was very much looking forward to her seeing those things. Now if they are moving those things to private parties does anyone have any idea if they will begin in late November? I'm wondering if I should pay the fees to change our flights to the first week of December.
 

You'll definitely enjoy Disneyland during the holidays -- with or without a party. There is enough to see and do in the parks, DTD and the hotels that I think you'll love it. There have got to be at least a couple of nights during your trip when there would not be a party, and on those nights you have to make sure to go back to IASW Holiday when it's lit up in colors, as well as catch the Winter Castle when it's lit up in its icicle lights. The icicle lights turn on and off through the evening, so you've got to time it right so you can get a photo in front of it when the icicles are on. Let's hope DLR doesn't decide to hold the icicle lights hostage to a party too!


Ohhh, so the "private party" is not every night? We could have the opportunity to enjoy the nighttime festivities, just with bigger crowds. Hmm...something to ponder.
 
We are planning our kids first trip to Disneyland Nov 11-16 and I was so happy to see that the official Holiday season starts on the 12th! But now I see that it is possible that Disney is going to basically hijack all of the things we were hoping to see... super disappointing :( Now we will have to decide whether to add more money to the cost of the trip, or just forgo what I thought we were already going to get to see. Oh well, I know that we will love it no matter what we do, just frustrating to have them potentially take away what people were counting on being able to see and do.
 
Ohhh, so the "private party" is not every night? We could have the opportunity to enjoy the nighttime festivities, just with bigger crowds. Hmm...something to ponder.

If they do a hard ticket party, I can almost guarantee they won't be doing the Christmas parade and fireworks on non-party nights. Don't know how they do things at DLR that time of year typically. Maybe they would do one of the other non-Christmas versions or maybe none at all. I know at WDW they do Wishes and Main Street Electrical parade on non-party nights and Holiday Wishes and Mickey's Once Upon a Christmastime Parade on party nights. (But at WDW fireworks are scheduled every night of the year).

They will be set up as a party exclusive. Why else would someone plunk down $60 a head (or more?)
 

egritz -

Hopefully you caught the reply I gave to your previous post a page or two back!

I think that perlster actually has some experience with Knott's at Christmas time. Perlster, are you still out there??
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There's a new post or two in the Theme Parks forum with links to some DIS reports.

I put my take on Knott's Merry Farm / Toys for Tots and some photos here.
 
Last year one of my daughters and I went to Disneyland in mid November and thoroughly loved seeing the Christmas Fantasy Parade and the Believe in Holiday fireworks. I have another trip booked this year for November 16-21 with my other daughter and I was very much looking forward to her seeing those things. Now if they are moving those things to private parties does anyone have any idea if they will begin in late November? I'm wondering if I should pay the fees to change our flights to the first week of December.

bhyer -

Welcome!

Trish (Phoenixrising) was just asking when the party would start a page or two back. I said I wasn't sure when the party would start. At this rate, we don't know for sure that there will be one this year. MiceAge is not an official Disney source (and that's where the party/holiday WoC tidbits came from). Even though we all knew that there would be a party sooner or later, it may not happen this year. We'll have to wait for Disney's official announcement.

Don't change your flights based on anything MiceAge has reported. Wait for Disney to tell us what they're doing.

I am guessing that IF there is a party it would start soon after the season begins in mid-November, and probably take place for a couple of nights a week until a few days before Christmas. Then, during the week of Christmas and New Year's there would most likely be the holiday parade and fireworks without a party.

Right now, no one actually knows anything and we are just discussing rumors. The season does start on 11/12 and the Candlelight Ceremony will most likely just be held on 2 nights in early December. The holiday World of Color and the possible party are not confirmed yet.

But I would recommend going in the first week of December anyway because crowds are a little bit lower and the whole Resort is in full holiday mode!


Ohhh, so the "private party" is not every night? We could have the opportunity to enjoy the nighttime festivities, just with bigger crowds. Hmm...something to ponder.

egritz --

The Halloween party happens about two nights each week during the Halloween Time season. On certain non-party nights they run the regular fireworks and regular parade.

I assume that the same would hold true for a Christmas party -- it would probably be a 2-night each week sort of thing, and on the non-party nights there would be a regular/non-holiday fireworks show and parade, and no snow.:sad:

But I suspect that the holiday parade and fireworks would run without a party during Christmas week and New Year's week, when it is super busy!


We are planning our kids first trip to Disneyland Nov 11-16 and I was so happy to see that the official Holiday season starts on the 12th! But now I see that it is possible that Disney is going to basically hijack all of the things we were hoping to see... super disappointing :( Now we will have to decide whether to add more money to the cost of the trip, or just forgo what I thought we were already going to get to see. Oh well, I know that we will love it no matter what we do, just frustrating to have them potentially take away what people were counting on being able to see and do.

wildflower329 -

You're not alone in that thinking -- I don't know if anyone read the comments underneath the "Scrooged At Last" article on MiceAge, but there are a lot of people who are not happy about paying even more money on top of what they already pay to see things that have been there for years during the holidays! This party may not even happen, but people are already abuzz!

I knew it would be a controversial move on Disney's part to take longstanding entertainment and hold it hostage to a party. If they were smart they would quickly figure out something brand new and big to put in that party, OR they should move the party over to DCA. Or, another option would be to just postpone it until next year and between now and 2014 they could be working on all new entertainment for a party.

Someone in the MiceChat forums mentioned that if Soundsational runs during the daytime in the absence of A Christmas Fantasy Parade, then the iconic Mickey-shaped garlands won't be able to hang over Main Street because of the very tall float in that parade. So the party would not only affect entertainment; it could affect decorations too!




If they do a hard ticket party, I can almost guarantee they won't be doing the Christmas parade and fireworks on non-party nights. Don't know how they do things at DLR that time of year typically. Maybe they would do one of the other non-Christmas versions or maybe none at all. I know at WDW they do Wishes and Main Street Electrical parade on non-party nights and Holiday Wishes and Mickey's Once Upon a Christmastime Parade on party nights. (But at WDW fireworks are scheduled every night of the year).

They will be set up as a party exclusive. Why else would someone plunk down $60 a head (or more?)

Janet -

Agreed. That would be the master plan IF a party is happening this year.

There's a new post or two in the Theme Parks forum with links to some DIS reports.

I put my take on Knott's Merry Farm / Toys for Tots and some photos here.

perlster --

I saw that link in the Knott's thread and was thinking that those were great Knott's holiday photos! Trish/Phoenixrising should take a look at them because she is planning to go to Knott's for a day this holiday season.
 
Sherry, thanks so much for the reply. Very much appreciated!!

I had originally wanted to visit the first week of December because of the lower crowds but my daughter couldn't get time off work during that week. So we decided to travel November 16-21 instead and I booked our flights. Then two weeks ago she got a new job and found out she could get the first week of December off. I checked and it would cost almost $400 to change our flights (flights more expensive and change fees). We decided to stay with our original travel date. Then just yesterday I booked Lion King tickets in Los Angeles for the very end of our trip. No refunds or changes allowed! Now if I change our dates it's the cost of the flight changes & the cost of the Lion King tickets. I guess I should have been reading this thread earlier!! I would have heard the news about a potential Christmas Party.

I KNOW I will have a wonderful time in the parks no matter when I go but geez, this planning stuff can be a wee bit stressful. I do love all the information in this thread!! Thank you.
 
Sherry, thanks so much for the reply. Very much appreciated!!

I had originally wanted to visit the first week of December because of the lower crowds but my daughter couldn't get time off work during that week. So we decided to travel November 16-21 instead and I booked our flights. Then two weeks ago she got a new job and found out she could get the first week of December off. I checked and it would cost almost $400 to change our flights (flights more expensive and change fees). We decided to stay with our original travel date. Then just yesterday I booked Lion King tickets in Los Angeles for the very end of our trip. No refunds or changes allowed! Now if I change our dates it's the cost of the flight changes & the cost of the Lion King tickets. I guess I should have been reading this thread earlier!! I would have heard the news about a potential Christmas Party.

I KNOW I will have a wonderful time in the parks no matter when I go but geez, this planning stuff can be a wee bit stressful. I do love all the information in this thread!! Thank you.

Those fees can add up. At that rate I would consider budgeted in the cost of party tickets depending on how many of you are going. I know some people cant when it is a large group but if it is just the two of you depending on the cost of the ticket it would definitely be less then changing dates :)

I am considering saving for it just in case they do something different with it then what is expected. It is just me and my son so I am just telling myself no new shoes until after the trip, hey then if I dont get tickets I can go shoppping ;) Gotta see the bright side of no shoes for 7 months :lmao: No matter what though that time of the year is magical at the park, I love the park any time but there is something about the holiday season (I have been the last 3 years :) ).
 
Last year one of my daughters and I went to Disneyland in mid November and thoroughly loved seeing the Christmas Fantasy Parade and the Believe in Holiday fireworks. I have another trip booked this year for November 16-21 with my other daughter and I was very much looking forward to her seeing those things. Now if they are moving those things to private parties does anyone have any idea if they will begin in late November? I'm wondering if I should pay the fees to change our flights to the first week of December.

All is not lost IF DL starts a Christmas Party. If my old brain recalls WDW had the holiday parade even on non-party days. We've never attended a "Party" but have seen the holdiay parade and nice fireworks. I agree with others that the special holiday fireworks may be part of a possible Christmas Party.

I'll look back at old pictures when I get home to see if my memory serves me well (or not :blush:)
 
All is not lost IF DL starts a Christmas Party. If my old brain recalls WDW had the holiday parade even on non-party days. We've never attended a "Party" but have seen the holdiay parade and nice fireworks. I agree with others that the special holiday fireworks may be part of a possible Christmas Party.

I'll look back at old pictures when I get home to see if my memory serves me well (or not :blush:)

They only do the holiday parade and fireworks on non-party days once the final party of the year has been held.
 
They only do the holiday parade and fireworks on non-party days once the final party of the year has been held.

Thank you for the info! That explains why my family always saw the parade - we typically vacation between Christmas and New Years and the parties are long over by then.

OK, now we can be concerned about a potential party again.....;)
 
Those fees can add up. At that rate I would consider budgeted in the cost of party tickets depending on how many of you are going. I know some people cant when it is a large group but if it is just the two of you depending on the cost of the ticket it would definitely be less then changing dates :)

I am considering saving for it just in case they do something different with it then what is expected. It is just me and my son so I am just telling myself no new shoes until after the trip, hey then if I dont get tickets I can go shoppping ;) Gotta see the bright side of no shoes for 7 months :lmao: No matter what though that time of the year is magical at the park, I love the park any time but there is something about the holiday season (I have been the last 3 years :) ).

The cost of changing our dates would just not be worth it at this point. Now I'm just hoping that IF they are going to do the private parties that they start during our time there (between Nov. 16-21) so that we do get to see the things like the Christmas Parade and Fireworks.
 
Sherry, thanks so much for the reply. Very much appreciated!!

I had originally wanted to visit the first week of December because of the lower crowds but my daughter couldn't get time off work during that week. So we decided to travel November 16-21 instead and I booked our flights. Then two weeks ago she got a new job and found out she could get the first week of December off. I checked and it would cost almost $400 to change our flights (flights more expensive and change fees). We decided to stay with our original travel date. Then just yesterday I booked Lion King tickets in Los Angeles for the very end of our trip. No refunds or changes allowed! Now if I change our dates it's the cost of the flight changes & the cost of the Lion King tickets. I guess I should have been reading this thread earlier!! I would have heard the news about a potential Christmas Party.

I KNOW I will have a wonderful time in the parks no matter when I go but geez, this planning stuff can be a wee bit stressful. I do love all the information in this thread!! Thank you.

bhyer -

You're welcome! It would certainly help if Disney unveiled their whole schedule for the season now -- the CP, party dates (if there are any), holiday World of Color, the parade and fireworks, etc. That way people would know exactly what they're up against and start planning/budgeting accordingly.

Yes, in your case I think it would be too much hassle and money to try to change dates. I have to think that IF there is a party this year, Disney would start it shortly after the season begins on 11/12 because they'd want to start making extra money on those quieter days in the parks.

In the case of the Halloween Parties, they start at the end of September and go on all through October, two times a week. If there is a Christmas party I think that to at least get a full month of parties in, Disney would have to begin the parties in mid-November or shortly thereafter (at least by 11/22)...because, chances are, the parties would end several days before Christmas, when the masses descend on the parks for their breaks.

Then again, Disney may want to do something like start the parties after Thanksgiving, which would be fine in a normal year but this year it would be at the very, very, very end of November. I'm pretty sure they'd have to end the Christmas parties by December 20th, so would it be worth it to start them on, say, 11/29 or on December 1st? I'm not sure.

It will be interesting to see how it unfolds!



Those fees can add up. At that rate I would consider budgeted in the cost of party tickets depending on how many of you are going. I know some people cant when it is a large group but if it is just the two of you depending on the cost of the ticket it would definitely be less then changing dates :)

I am considering saving for it just in case they do something different with it then what is expected. It is just me and my son so I am just telling myself no new shoes until after the trip, hey then if I dont get tickets I can go shoppping ;) Gotta see the bright side of no shoes for 7 months :lmao: No matter what though that time of the year is magical at the park, I love the park any time but there is something about the holiday season (I have been the last 3 years :) ).

aidensmom31 -

When does your trip start this year? I know you'll be in the parks over Christmas, but when are you arriving? I think that a possible party would have to end by 12/20, and after that the holiday fireworks, snow and holiday parade would be running for all guests. So I don't think you will miss out on anything if there is no party during your dates -- in fact, you'll get the benefit of seeing the events that other people would have to pay extra for earlier in the month!

I actually think you're in the best position out of any of us here who have been commenting so far, because of the timing of your trip! If there is a party and you want to attend the party, great. If the party has ended by the time you arrive, you'll probably get to see the holiday events without shelling out extra cash. So you may be able to buy shoes after all!:rotfl2:



All is not lost IF DL starts a Christmas Party. If my old brain recalls WDW had the holiday parade even on non-party days. We've never attended a "Party" but have seen the holdiay parade and nice fireworks. I agree with others that the special holiday fireworks may be part of a possible Christmas Party.

I'll look back at old pictures when I get home to see if my memory serves me well (or not :blush:)

TK -

As Janet mentioned, the parties would most likely stop several days before Christmas. And unless Disney adds in brand new entertainment to this party, they'd definitely hold the Christmas parade, snow and fireworks hostage to a hard ticket event. I think it's a mistake and I think they will get TONS of backlash in their email boxes (probably even now, people are starting to write them -- just based on the MiceAge rumor) from yearly holiday visitors who will feel cheated. The best way to have done a DL party would have been to have all-new entertainment, or at least one new major event, if not just have the party in DCA. I am hoping the Disney peeps come to their senses and do one of those things.

I know that my individual dollars don't make a dent in Disney's wallet, but at this rate, the only ways in which I would pay for a hard ticket Christmas party in Disneyland are if it has something new to offer (not just cookies) -- OR, if I am there on a "fact-finding mission," to gather info and details on the party to bring back to this thread so I have some knowledge of it to dispense in the future. It would be good to have some first-hand experience at a party just so I can offer a little bit of insight into it in the Superthread, and add some photos of it to the first page of the thread.

But that would be a one-time deal. I would not be going to a party repeatedly without new entertainment. I'm not even sure I would go one time!
 
As Janet mentioned, the parties would most likely stop several days before Christmas. And unless Disney adds in brand new entertainment to this party, they'd definitely hold the Christmas parade, snow and fireworks hostage to a hard ticket event. I think it's a mistake and I think they will get TONS of backlash in their email boxes (probably even now, people are starting to write them -- just based on the MiceAge rumor) from yearly holiday visitors who will feel cheated. The best way to have done a DL party would have been to have all-new entertainment, or at least one new major event, if not just have the party in DCA. I am hoping the Disney peeps come to their senses and do one of those things.

I know that my individual dollars don't make a dent in Disney's wallet, but at this rate, the only ways in which I would pay for a hard ticket Christmas party in Disneyland are if it has something new to offer (not just cookies) -- OR, if I am there on a "fact-finding mission," to gather info and details on the party to bring back to this thread so I have some knowledge of it to dispense in the future. It would be good to have some first-hand experience at a party just so I can offer a little bit of insight into it in the Superthread, and add some photos of it to the first page of the thread.

But that would be a one-time deal. I would not be going to a party repeatedly without new entertainment. I'm not even sure I would go one time!

Do you think there's any chance they might do the party at DCA and make holiday WOC exclusive to the event?

Or does the reduced CP schedule indicate they will probably have it in DL?
 
One aspect I don't like about the party idea, is that you never know what the weather will be like. Now when I go, I try and get in a parade or fireworks early in my trip in case the weather turns bad. If you have to buy a party ticket in advance, who knows what the weather will be like. Would hate to buy one on a night that they had to cancel the parade and fireworks due to inclimate weather. Having the characters ride by in a bus, not quite the same as a parade. Would kind of defeat the purpose of paying extra.
 
One aspect I don't like about the party idea, is that you never know what the weather will be like. Now when I go, I try and get in a parade or fireworks early in my trip in case the weather turns bad. If you have to buy a party ticket in advance, who knows what the weather will be like. Would hate to buy one on a night that they had to cancel the parade and fireworks due to inclimate weather. Having the characters ride by in a bus, not quite the same as a parade. Would kind of defeat the purpose of paying extra.

One thing to keep in mind is that when they have to cancel major party components (fireworks or parade especially) at WDW, they have been very good about offering replacement tickets to another party during your stay. WDW does parties 4 nights a week, so that's easier to do there. But if you're leaving the next day, they tend to offer a one day park ticket. That of course has less value at DLR where more visitors are AP holders. (Usually you have to go to GR and ask. They don't just come by and offer). If I'm not mistaken, I have heard that fireworks get cancelled more often at DLR because it's in a more populated area. So it will be very interesting indeed to see how they balance all of this.

You know. IF there's a party. :)
 
Do you think there's any chance they might do the party at DCA and make holiday WOC exclusive to the event?

Or does the reduced CP schedule indicate they will probably have it in DL?

Janet --

I think it would be smart for them to start it in DCA and make the holiday WoC the big selling point/draw. That would be new to all of us. Also, the Halloween parties used to take place in DCA before all the major construction began. Having a DCA party would be intriguing to both holiday newcomers and holiday regulars.

As Luisa mentioned in this thread a while back, the Mad T Party's holiday show could work well with a party in DCA. Both BVS and CL would work well with a party.

But, alas, as you said, the reduced CP schedule is almost a certain indicator that the Disney management is planning to have a party in Disneyland (just to copy WDW's parties). I know that supposedly the reduced CP is just about lost revenue on Main Street last year, but that is a drastic drop in performances from last year -- without a cohesive back-up plan for the CP (to relocate it somewhere and offer dinner packages).

So that tells me that someone in Disney planning said, "Let's forget the CP this year and have a party instead!" But I don't know if they actually thought about how greedy and Scrooge-ish they may look if they take away "free snow" from the little ones who enjoy it and start charging for it.

Disney still has time to fix the problem-in-the-making and figure out something new to add to a party!

My guess is that the Disney PR/spin machine is going to play up the IASW Holiday and Haunted Mansion Holiday aspects too -- even though those rides would be running all the time anyway, Disney will want to make it appear as though the party guests have "exclusive" access to those rides (meanwhile, the lines would still be long because those rides are extremely popular!).



One aspect I don't like about the party idea, is that you never know what the weather will be like. Now when I go, I try and get in a parade or fireworks early in my trip in case the weather turns bad. If you have to buy a party ticket in advance, who knows what the weather will be like. Would hate to buy one on a night that they had to cancel the parade and fireworks due to inclimate weather. Having the characters ride by in a bus, not quite the same as a parade. Would kind of defeat the purpose of paying extra.

ttig34 --

Good point. In SoCal we could have days that are 90 degrees in December, or it could be raining heavily. I have witnessed both. It's always a gamble.

I'm annoyed at the prospect of no Mickey-shaped garland/wreaths hanging over Main Street because of the tall float in the Soundsational parade that would probably happen on the non-party days. That alone would be enough to irritate me! Those Mickey-shaped wreaths are iconic! I might have to write to Disney and complain, just based on that (when we find out for sure what the holiday plans officially are, of course)!!
 
Janet --

I think it would be smart for them to start it in DCA and make the holiday WoC the big selling point/draw. That would be new to all of us. Also, the Halloween parties used to take place in DCA before all the major construction began. Having a DCA party would be intriguing to both holiday newcomers and holiday regulars.

As Luisa mention in this thread a while back, the Mad T Party's holiday show could work well with a party in DCA. Both BVS and CL would work well with a party.

But, alas, as you said, the reduced CP schedule is almost a certain indicator that the Disney management is planning to have a party in Disneyland (just to copy WDW's parties). I know that supposedly the reduced CP is just about lost revenue on Main Street last year, but that is a drastic drop in performances from last year -- without a cohesive back-up plan for the CP to relocate it somewhere and offer dinner packages.

So that tells me that someone in Disney planning said, "Let's forget the CP this year and have a party instead!" But I don't know if they actually thought about how greedy and Scrooge-ish they may look if they take away "free snow" from the little ones who enjoy it and start charging for it.

Disney still has time to fix the problem in the making and figure out something new to add to a party!

My guess is that the Disney PR/spin machine is going to play up the IASW Holiday and Haunted Mansion Holiday aspects too -- even though those rides would be running all the time anyway, Disney will want to make it appear as though the party guests have "exclusive" access to those rides (meanwhile, the lines would still be long because those rides are extremely popular!).

They could totally sell the easier access to RSR as a party benefit.

But alas, as you say, it really doesn't seem that's where they are headed.

I've wondered all along how they were going to pull this off. It's going to be interesting.

You know. IF it happens. :)

popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::

I'll take my popcorn caramel coated. For Christmas, you know. ;)
 
All this talk about a Christmas party has got me nervous. This was going to be my first Disneyland holiday. Wanted to see all that DL had to offer.
I have been to the private (ha!) Halloween party twice. Once at DCA and loved it!! Then a few years later at DL....hated it ( will never do that again).
I have not put any money down so i will wait until the entertainment or party schedule is released then I will decide.
 
I like the idea of having the party at DCA with the Holiday WOC. That would be fun! Would they be able to do some sort of themed parade there as well?

Another random thought....IF the party happens and IF it is in DL....what would happen to Fantasmic! on Friday nights? I believe the Halloween parties are Tuesdays and Fridays. And I know last year in December, F! was Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Just curious if they would make up for it on a weeknight instead??? Or do they also show F! during the parties?
 
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