Disney World on list of lowest-paying jobs

Ah, wow. But I heard Disney is one of the top happiest employees..At least they love their jobs.

It's not that they all love their job, it's that Disney can and will fire you if you say you don't like your job to a guest LOL
 
I can't imagine staying at a hotel and not tipping housekeeping. That, and our ability to accessorize, is what separates us from the animals, to paraphrase Steel Magnolias.;)
 

It's not semantics. Disney doesn't consider housekeeping tipped position. There isn't any reason why a guest has to tip housekeeping. It's rude to attack a person who doesn't follow a policy that you made up. It's beyond rude to attack people who don't follow your rules considering the fact that you know your opinion doesn't coincide with the tipping policy Disney communicates with guests.

You were responding to my post, only logical I'd interpret that as a personal attack.

Disney doesn't follow industry custom in many area. CMs who check us in aren't suppose to accept tips. Tipping those employees is common in other cities. I've never stayed in concierge level but my understanding is those employees aren't suppose to accept tips. Concierge in other hotels are definitely tipped.

DME bus drivers are allowed to accept tips.



Hey, lets all play nicey-nice here.

Obviously we will not change each other's positions.



Let's gather up a couple buckets of that famed pixie dust and.......THROW it at each other!! In a nice way of course! :flower3::flower3:
 
Let's gather up a couple buckets of that famed pixie dust and.......THROW it at each other!! In a nice way of course! :flower3::flower3:

Not so fast. How much did they pay the guy who made the pixie dust? How about the CM who sold it to you? And did you tip him? ;)
 
I know it's not exactly the same but my teacher internship program allowed me to teach class all day for free and then to pay bills i got to go to work from 4 until usually 1 or 2 in the morning at the local Home Depot. I worked a 40-50 hours a week job while teaching for free all day for 3 months to graduate college. A girls gone wild party atmosphere while getting paid with cheap rent sounds good to me. No personal attacks here just stating that many internship programs have thier flaws. Most interns are exhausted and ready for it to be over.
 
Disney has seasons too. CPs are a way to manage thier employment issues as well.

There are no more seasons at Disney, its busy all the time!

CP's are a way for Diseny to pay young kids, under the pretense of an "Internship", for cheap labor, and to rake them over the coals for "rent", all of which is government subsidised.....

Nothing more, nothing less.

Like I said before..."You get what you pay for"

If anyone doubts me, hang out at the Benngians Bar on 535 one night and just observe, or better yet, ask questions! ;)
 
There are no more seasons at Disney, its busy all the time!

CP's are a way for Diseny to pay young kids, under the pretense of an "Internship", for cheap labor, and to rake them over the coals for "rent", all of which is government subsidised.....

Nothing more, nothing less.

Like I said before..."You get what you pay for"

If anyone doubts me, hang out at the Benngians Bar on 535 one night and just observe, or better yet, ask questions! ;)

There are seasons. You may happen to go when it is busy for your trips, but I don't for mine. Disney even confirms that there are seasons. Think about it.

Everyone at Bennigians also live in Vista Lay. So you can observe just one type of the CPs there.
 
A few years ago the NYTimes had an article comparing COSTCO and WalMart. Costco pays their employees almost 3X as much as Wal Mart. COSTCO offers health insurance. As another poster pointed out WalMarts health insurance is telling most of their employees to apply for medicaid. Service is better at COSTCO.

The question is if Disney guests (who pay $$$ for tickets,rooms and food) would get the level of service they're paying for if Disney either paid more or had more employees. Many posters have commented on a reduction in the level of service.
Then again ... it doesn't cost me anything to go into WalMart and buy a case of toilet paper. I have to pay for that priviledge at COSTCO and the TP cost isn't all that much lower. So COSTCO has some additional income to balance out the higher wages. And whether service is better at COSTCO than WalMart depends greatly on which store you're in, the time of day, and what kind of service you need.

At Disney, the $$$ guests pay for tickets, rooms and food isn't just paying for a "level of service." They're paying for a great deal more than just that. Those dollars are paying for entertainment, rides, fireworks, maintenance, custodial, parades, characters, transportation, theming, upkeep, resort activities, costuming, lifeguards, housekeeping, concierge, etc. The amount of money a guest pays for their Disney vacation -- as pricey as it is -- doesn't even come close to the amount of money it costs Disney to provide that vacation.

The amount of money you are paid by your employer should have absolutely nothing to do with how well you perform your job. If I apply for a job and the company says, "We'll pay you $6 an hour" and I agree to that, I am also agreeing to perform that job to the best of my ability for that price. If the company says, "We'll pay you $60 an hour", the level of service I give should be no different than if I was making ten times less.

Bad customer service comes from those particular CMs who have decided that they don't need to do a better job because they don't get paid enough. Their failing, not Disney's. Many of the sub-standard CMs who are out there now would not be performing any better at $90/hr than they are at $9/hour.

Bad customer service is also subjective. What I think was a great CM interaction may be something you think was far below standards. The DIS is full of testimonials from people who met amazing CP or retired CMs and wonderful magical hourly CMs -- all of those people who are making the lowest wages at Disney. So, clearly, outstanding customer service happens at all pay grades. You're either a great CM or you're not, but that's up to you.

Now ... would higher hourly rates and salaries allow Disney to be more choosy in how they cast? Sure. But you still run the same risk of finding a lousy CM. Because no potential CM is going to say, in an interview, "I plan on just barely skating by in Guest Service, and I will be kind of a crappy CM." They all look GREAT in an interview. Best face, biggest smile, agreeability, enthusiasm. It's not until they get hired and start working that you really know how they will behave on stage. It's a crapshoot. More money doesn't mean better staff.

A poster in the transportation thread was staying at the POLY. Wanted to know if he should walk over the TTC and take the bus to DHS or if he should take the bus from the POLY to DHS. A poster works for the monorail. He insisted training told them there is no bus from any of the monorail resorts to DHS. No excuse for a trainer giving employees bad information. I don't know if paying more would lead to lower turnover and better service.
I think it might lead to lower turnover, but better service is still up to the person performing the service. Disney can train, pay, nurture, mentor, discipline, coddle, watch, reprimand, counsel and coach me all they want. But how I decide to perform my job is totally up to me.

:earsboy:
 
Not for nothing....but the college program is a sham...always has been.

In few cases is it anything close to "internship"-type work and they pay them nothing with heavy federal subsidies.

And then they put these 18-25 (with international programs) into outsourced party compounds and deduct rent from them. And they tend to end up being introduced to a 3 month party that often looks like an episode of girls gone wild.

Most "alumni" won't admit to it....but that is EXACTLY what it is. Kinda a vacation...which is fine as long as everybody knows that and accepts no illusions.
I don't think that Disney in any way implies that the CP is an "internship." There are very specific internship and advanced internship programs at Disney, and they have very different application policies and very different requirements.

And really ... a bunch of college kids on their own, away from home for the first time? They could be working at the Vatican and it's still going to be a three month party. Disney certainly doesn't condone or design the "extracurricular" activities. But because the KIDS can't control themselves, the program is a sham?

There are plenty of CP alumni who will admit to their time on CP being one long drinking party spaced out by occasional hangovers and rare moments of sobriety. There are also plenty of CP alumni who call it the best job they ever had and the reason they were so successful after college. Go figure.

I call it the slave labor program. I talk to a lot of CPers every trip, and they're all the same, exhausted and ready to go home.
At the end of a normal work week, don't most of us feel the same?

:earsboy:
 
I don't think that Disney in any way implies that the CP is an "internship." There are very specific internship and advanced internship programs at Disney, and they have very different application policies and very different requirements.

And really ... a bunch of college kids on their own, away from home for the first time? They could be working at the Vatican and it's still going to be a three month party. Disney certainly doesn't condone or design the "extracurricular" activities. But because the KIDS can't control themselves, the program is a sham?

There are plenty of CP alumni who will admit to their time on CP being one long drinking party spaced out by occasional hangovers and rare moments of sobriety. There are also plenty of CP alumni who call it the best job they ever had and the reason they were so successful after college. Go figure.


At the end of a normal work week, don't most of us feel the same?

:earsboy:

I was in the College Program and it was not a vacation...granted, I was in the six month hospitality program which had more stringent requirements, but many CP interns (it is an internship - a paid internship if you are in the hospitality program otherwise the traditional three month program is more like a seasonal job) were kicked out of the program due to the behavior people are describing. They were incredibly strict and yes there were some interesting stories but not in the program I was part of. We worked too much to get into trouble. It could be said that the CP is very lucrative for Disney in that the pay is low, they take out the rent which amounts to a very expensive apartment when you live with five other people in most cases. It wasn't difficult to get tons of OT when I was there because we got paid such a low wage, that it made more sense to have us stay to cover shifts then have a regular CM do it. I have heard that they are very strict about OT now with CP but that is the only way I came home with money.

I looked at the experience as being a great one. Yes, I was tired but I also never got used to the humidity (I am originally from AZ and went to school there) and since I worked a lot, it was exhausting. But, I really loved what I did for the most part and just love the hospitality industry. Disney is an amazing place and although their are bad things about working anywhere, I would work for Disney again in a heartbeat. But, enjoying my job trumps making a ton of money in my book. It was because of Disney that I got the job offers that I did, that I stayed in the hospitality industry, and that I have become the biggest Disney fan (when I wasn't at the time I started CP).

I can't think of a better internship experience. Most of my friends in the industry that interned elsewhere had horrible experiences. I had so much fun and didn't drink one drop of alcohol! I am guessing most CP alumni that hated their experiences worked in quick service food...most people I knew in those areas hated their jobs.
 
At the end of a normal work week, don't most of us feel the same?

:earsboy:

I mean ready to quit the program and go home home. Not just back to the apartment.

I hope most of us don't feel like quitting our jobs come every Friday.

I've worked all kinds of jobs - as I'm sure many folks have. Even the smallest of pay raises can significantly increase productivity.
 
ANY excuse to decide that someone making $8.50 / hour doesn't rate being tipped, whether it's "I can't afford it" or "They're not a tipped position." you are without a doubt a rat-******* scumbag. Most of those people will NEVER be able to afford the vacation that you are currently enjoying...if you can't chip in a couple of bucks a day...well...I have no other words for you.

I do understand the distinction in what Disney calls it, and I don't think that should make one inch of difference...

Hey, lets all play nicey-nice here.

You have a good point but you're talking to the wrong poster. The poster I had the discussion with understands Disney doesn't consider housekeeping a tipped job. He insists guests who chose to follow Disney tipping guidelines, and not his guidelines, are "rat*** scumbags".

I wouldn't even post that if a guest stiffs a waiter (without a good reason) although I would think it.
 
At Disney, the $$$ guests pay for tickets, rooms and food isn't just paying for a "level of service." They're paying for a great deal more than just that. Those dollars are paying for entertainment, rides, fireworks, maintenance, custodial, parades, characters, transportation, theming, upkeep, resort activities, costuming, lifeguards, housekeeping, concierge, etc. The amount of money a guest pays for their Disney vacation -- as pricey as it is -- doesn't even come close to the amount of money it costs Disney to provide that vacation.

The amount of money you are paid by your employer should have absolutely nothing to do with how well you perform your job. If I apply for a job and the company says, "We'll pay you $6 an hour" and I agree to that, I am also agreeing to perform that job to the best of my ability for that price. If the company says, "We'll pay you $60 an hour", the level of service I give should be no different than if I was making ten times less.

The theme park/resort division of Disney is profitable almost every year. Therefore the part of your post I bolded is false.

Paying higher wages may reduce turnover resulting in better service. Paying higher wages may allow you to attract better employees. Pay enough and you can hire a chef away from another restaurant or a hotel manager from another hotel.

I'm not saying paying the very entry level jobs (people checking tickets) will have an impact.

GF is a 3* or 4* hotel, in part, because the staff to guest ratio isn't high enough to produce the level of service that's provided in hotel like the Four Seasons. Disney realized they can charge 5* prices at a hotel that's themed to resemble a 5* hotel without actually providing the services necessary to earn a 5* rating.

I'm deviating from this thread. The question isn't just the pay scale but also how many CMs Disney employs.
 
The amount of money a guest pays for their Disney vacation -- as pricey as it is -- doesn't even come close to the amount of money it costs Disney to provide that vacation.

For real? Who is paying for my vacation, then?
 
The theme park/resort division of Disney is profitable almost every year. Therefore the part of your post I bolded is false.
No it's not. I never said the division wasn't profitable, simply that all of the income for the theme park / resort division does not originate with the money Guests pay to be at WDW. What Guests pay in via ticket prices, resort rates, food costs, etc. does not equal what Disney pays out in salaries, benefits, upkeep, maintenance, development, etc. Money from stockholders, money from other divisions who are developing product in tandem with the theme parks, money from sponsors -- all of these funds supplement what Guests pay. The money that Siemans pays to sponsor IllumiNations, for example, helps offset what it costs Disney to staff and maintain that show, which means that the Guests don't have to pay for that.

If the parks had to exist and be profitable ONLY on what Guests pay to be there, it'd be a whole lot more expensive.

:earsboy:
 














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