Disney Riviera Resort

[jade1]

Foul...

There were some depressed resells in the housing glut. $40 at beach club? ..if you got it for $50...let me know who's selling...

Well here are some from 2012

BCV 2012

GEOS4DIS ---- 270 BCV (Apr), $62.50, 126 '12 pts, all '13 pts, (sub 6/12, passed 6/28)
Doombuggy0922 --- ?? BCV (Aug), $73, 81 banked '10 pts, 178 '11 pts, all '12 & '13 pts, split mf & closing, (sub ???, passed 7/3)
DannysMom --- 200 BCV(Feb), $65, 60 banked '11 pts, all '12 & '13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 6/25, passed 7/17)
twoj --- 400 BCV(Mar), $66, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 7/20, passed 8/13)
T Morrows Child ---- 200 BCV(Feb), $73, all '12 & '13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf (sub 7/20, passed 8/14)
Poolrat -- 150 BCV (Oct), $60, 0 11 pts, 0 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 7/24, passed 8/21)
pathways25 -- 300 BCV (Apr), $59, all '12 pts, all '13 pts, buyer pays closing and seller pays 2012 mf (sub 7/27, passed 8/21)
michelleiada ---- 250 BCV(Mar), $68, 81 banked '11 pts, all '12 & '13 pts, seller pays closing, split mf (sub 8/7, passed 9/4)
Bronte -- 200 BCV (Mar), $71, 12 banked '11 pts, all '12 & '13 pts buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 8/13, passed 9/11)
CarolynMink -- 100 BCV (Dec), $75, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf (sub 8/24, passed 9/19)
diane648 -- 75 BCV (Sep), $78, 75 banked 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 9/28, passed 10/25)
heartsy77 -- 270 BCV (Dec), $73, 3 banked 12 pts, al l13 pts, buyer pays closing (sub ??, passed 10/30)
Princess Jo -- 150 BCV (Mar), $59, 59 banked 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing, split mf (sub 10/13, passed 11/6)
ttepsich --- 100 BCV (Jun), $73, 84 banked 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, seller pays mf, buyer pays closing (sub 10/10, passed 11/6)
pathways25 --- 310 BCV (Apr), $44, 21 '11 pts, 198 '12 pts, all '13 pts, buyer pays closing and split 2012 mf (sub 10/3, passed 11/27)
pathways25 -- 190 BCV (Apr), $46, 0 '11 pts, 110 '12 pts, all '13 pts, buyer pays closing and split 2012 mf (sub 9/26, passed 11/27)

BWV 2012

Joey7295------ 250 BWV (Dec) $53, all '11 & '12 pts, buyer & seller split closing/mf (sub 6/6, passed 7/3)
Joey7295------ 250 BWV (Dec) $53, all '11 & '12 pts, buyer & seller split closing/mf (sub 6/6, passed 7/3)
ercbc (seller) --- 175 BWV (Oct), $60, 95 '12 pts, 110 '13 pts, buyer pays closing, ??? mf (sub 5/21, passed 6/19)
JaimeA --- 250 BWV (Apr), $59, all '12 & '13 pts, buyer pays closing & $50 mf, (sub 6/15, passed 7/10)
kgallagher9 --- 150 BWV (Jun), $64, all '12 & '13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf (sub ??, passed 7/11)
Ilyo --- 200 BWV (Dec), $65, 51 pts in holding, 132 11 pts, all 12 pts, buyer pays closing, split mf (sub ??, passed 7/31)
2binak --- 100 BWV (Sep), $64, 100 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf, (sub 7/24, passed 8/21)
moobar25 -- 50 BWV (Mar), $68, 18 '12, all of '13, buyer pays closing & mf, (sub 7/31, passed 8/28)
jara1528 ---150 BWV (Dec), $65, 7 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing and mf (sub 8/3, passed 8/28)
gaylem -- 300 BWV (Aug), $50, 69 banked 11 pts, 178 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf (sub 8/7, passed 9/5)
cz4ever --- 300 BWV(Dec), $65, 226 banked '10 pts, 300 banked '11 pts, all '12 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 6/27, passed ??)
Cottun --- 30 BWV (Oct), $69, all 11, 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf, (sub 8/23, passed 9/18)
MickeyFan612 -- 200 BWV (Jun), $58, 200 banked 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf, (sub ??, passed 10/16)
lovesdumbo -- 250 BWV (Feb), $65, 45 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 10/1, passed 10/30)
spears2008 -- 50 BWV (Dec), $67, 50 banked 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing & 1/12 mf (sub 10/8, passed 11/6)
WonderinAland -- 245 BWV (Mar), $59.18, 60 banked 11 pts, 184 banked 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub ??, passed 11/7)
amypetecar -- 200 BWV (Aug), $55, 108 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf (sub 10/15, passed 11/13)
Dikran -- 157 BWV (Mar), $61, 115 banked 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, (sub ??, passed 12/11)

 

[jade1]

I think most don't sell cause they can't break even.

I was just pointing out Roxyfire, LOL and myself can make money, but not planning to sell currently.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

1. So professional denigration is an appropriate response to disney hypothetical market analysis? Got it...I'll add that to my arsenal.

2. I wasn't talking about DH...that was my point. You are making a lot of shortsighted economic quips that seem to be rooted in "we"...not "I"...you should run for president. Just how it's rubbing off...i would be delighted to be enlightened.

This is a dvc discussion...we got some Pom poms deployed as always...and you said "I don't know...$150??" On the bay lake contract which was more than retail hit. That calls into question you're basis for determining "valuation" on dvc points and most other thinks...like "mk views"...your feet have to occasionally touch the ground. BLT contracts sell $110-120 now...and while it's possible to go down on resale (Saratoga is about flat)...as Jade points out none would have dropped 20% on the monorail line in a boom economy.

Just my opinion.

This all seems over the top to me. If my conduct with that offhand remark is so over the top, the mods will deal with me. That's the last I'll say about that.

I guess that since I don't recall the break-even analysis I conducted 8yrs ago, I must not be qualified to discuss DVC on a Disney board. Let me know if you want to see my MBA, and MS Finance transcripts to decide if I can discuss this. Not sure my Biochem B.Sc. with double minor in Psychology and Management are of interest to you, but I have those, too.

ETA: Out of curiosity I just asked DH what we paid for BLT -- his response: "Are you serious??" He's a PhD Econometrician currently specializing in valuation.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Well here are some from 2012

BCV 2012

GEOS4DIS ---- 270 BCV (Apr), $62.50, 126 '12 pts, all '13 pts, (sub 6/12, passed 6/28)
Doombuggy0922 --- ?? BCV (Aug), $73, 81 banked '10 pts, 178 '11 pts, all '12 & '13 pts, split mf & closing, (sub ???, passed 7/3)
DannysMom --- 200 BCV(Feb), $65, 60 banked '11 pts, all '12 & '13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 6/25, passed 7/17)
twoj --- 400 BCV(Mar), $66, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 7/20, passed 8/13)
T Morrows Child ---- 200 BCV(Feb), $73, all '12 & '13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf (sub 7/20, passed 8/14)
Poolrat -- 150 BCV (Oct), $60, 0 11 pts, 0 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 7/24, passed 8/21)
pathways25 -- 300 BCV (Apr), $59, all '12 pts, all '13 pts, buyer pays closing and seller pays 2012 mf (sub 7/27, passed 8/21)
michelleiada ---- 250 BCV(Mar), $68, 81 banked '11 pts, all '12 & '13 pts, seller pays closing, split mf (sub 8/7, passed 9/4)
Bronte -- 200 BCV (Mar), $71, 12 banked '11 pts, all '12 & '13 pts buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 8/13, passed 9/11)
CarolynMink -- 100 BCV (Dec), $75, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf (sub 8/24, passed 9/19)
diane648 -- 75 BCV (Sep), $78, 75 banked 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 9/28, passed 10/25)
heartsy77 -- 270 BCV (Dec), $73, 3 banked 12 pts, al l13 pts, buyer pays closing (sub ??, passed 10/30)
Princess Jo -- 150 BCV (Mar), $59, 59 banked 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing, split mf (sub 10/13, passed 11/6)
ttepsich --- 100 BCV (Jun), $73, 84 banked 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, seller pays mf, buyer pays closing (sub 10/10, passed 11/6)
pathways25 --- 310 BCV (Apr), $44, 21 '11 pts, 198 '12 pts, all '13 pts, buyer pays closing and split 2012 mf (sub 10/3, passed 11/27)
pathways25 -- 190 BCV (Apr), $46, 0 '11 pts, 110 '12 pts, all '13 pts, buyer pays closing and split 2012 mf (sub 9/26, passed 11/27)

BWV 2012

Joey7295------ 250 BWV (Dec) $53, all '11 & '12 pts, buyer & seller split closing/mf (sub 6/6, passed 7/3)
Joey7295------ 250 BWV (Dec) $53, all '11 & '12 pts, buyer & seller split closing/mf (sub 6/6, passed 7/3)
ercbc (seller) --- 175 BWV (Oct), $60, 95 '12 pts, 110 '13 pts, buyer pays closing, ??? mf (sub 5/21, passed 6/19)
JaimeA --- 250 BWV (Apr), $59, all '12 & '13 pts, buyer pays closing & $50 mf, (sub 6/15, passed 7/10)
kgallagher9 --- 150 BWV (Jun), $64, all '12 & '13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf (sub ??, passed 7/11)
Ilyo --- 200 BWV (Dec), $65, 51 pts in holding, 132 11 pts, all 12 pts, buyer pays closing, split mf (sub ??, passed 7/31)
2binak --- 100 BWV (Sep), $64, 100 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf, (sub 7/24, passed 8/21)
moobar25 -- 50 BWV (Mar), $68, 18 '12, all of '13, buyer pays closing & mf, (sub 7/31, passed 8/28)
jara1528 ---150 BWV (Dec), $65, 7 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing and mf (sub 8/3, passed 8/28)
gaylem -- 300 BWV (Aug), $50, 69 banked 11 pts, 178 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf (sub 8/7, passed 9/5)
cz4ever --- 300 BWV(Dec), $65, 226 banked '10 pts, 300 banked '11 pts, all '12 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 6/27, passed ??)
Cottun --- 30 BWV (Oct), $69, all 11, 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf, (sub 8/23, passed 9/18)
MickeyFan612 -- 200 BWV (Jun), $58, 200 banked 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf, (sub ??, passed 10/16)
lovesdumbo -- 250 BWV (Feb), $65, 45 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub 10/1, passed 10/30)
spears2008 -- 50 BWV (Dec), $67, 50 banked 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, buyer pays closing & 1/12 mf (sub 10/8, passed 11/6)
WonderinAland -- 245 BWV (Mar), $59.18, 60 banked 11 pts, 184 banked 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing, seller pays mf (sub ??, passed 11/7)
amypetecar -- 200 BWV (Aug), $55, 108 12 pts, all 13 pts, buyer pays closing & mf (sub 10/15, passed 11/13)
Dikran -- 157 BWV (Mar), $61, 115 banked 11 pts, all 12 & 13 pts, (sub ??, passed 12/11)

Right...large contracts were cheap...no doubt.

You did say "small contracts"...but I'll let it slide...

I'll concede your point...for being opportunistic...though you did "parse" the numbers a little and exaggerate.

 

[Madonna3]

I was just pointing out Roxyfire, LOL and myself can make money, but not planning to sell currently.

Ah ok. Misunderstood that.

 

[DougEMG]

It's highly unlikely it will be the only one for sale...that rarely happens.

At some point it will be the resort that Disney pushes in their presentations. POLY should be sold out by the end of this year, which leaves CCR as the main WDW resort for sale till DRR opens at which point DRR will probably be the main focus of sales.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

This all seems over the top to me. If my conduct with that offhand remark is so over the top, the mods will deal with me. That's the last I'll say about that.

I guess that since I don't recall the break-even analysis I conducted 8yrs ago, I must not be qualified to discuss DVC on a Disney board. Let me know if you want to see my MBA, and MS Finance transcripts to decide if I can discuss this. Not sure my Biochem B.Sc. with double minor in Psychology and Management are of interest to you, but I have those, too.

That was exaclty what I was looking for...so you work in pharma?

All aces to me. Enough said.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

That was exaclty what I was looking for...so you work in pharma?

All aces to me. Enough said.

??

And FYI...Out of curiosity I just asked DH what we paid for BLT -- his response: "Are you serious??" He's a PhD Econometrician currently specializing in valuation.

Guess we're both idiots for not recalling that DVC break-even from 8yrs ago.

 

[DougEMG]

I hope you are wrong.

But I see that the Tiana dessert party just sold out, so you are probably not wrong.

They did eventually sell out SSR and that wasn't considered a good location or a very deluxe resort compared to the other existing DVCs. So a SSR/OKW amenities level combined with a near BWV/BCV location should sell fine.

 

[tjkraz]

It's not that rooms couldnt be sold for cash. The exclusivity is the resort itself is limited to those staying at the resort. Pool/restaurants/shopping and eliminating ability to rent points by needing to show membership card

Well, cash guests wouldn't have a membership card.

That said, I'm even more confused about the benefit. Knowing that the shopper or diner next to you is someone registered at the hotel is a perk worth bragging about? I wouldn't object to screenings at the pools but I think it's a far smaller problem than some people believe and there would be a cost associated with policing entry.

As for point rentals, anecdotally I think the outrage would be far greater than any appreciation of perceived "exclusivity."

Also DVC guests don't quick serve as much but they do TS

I'm not in any position to parse QS vs TS. It's pretty apparent that those kitchens don't go universally unused. Where they're eating...I have no idea. And when guests are dining out, there's no guarantee the Riviera restaurants would be the destination of choice.

 

[tjkraz]

The one difference is that "dvc doesn't eat like other hotel guests"....

...really? You cook on vacation? Lol...that is the one thing I will pay disney for willingly...no thanks. The kitchen awaits at home.

I'm sure different families have different patterns. I've never been opposed to making a ham sandwich for lunch or spaghetti for dinner. Things like that only marginally qualify as "cooking" in my book, yet I can feed the family for $100 less than a Disney TS meal. Probably get in-and-out faster, too, with no need for reservations.

Put it this way...the amount of cooking that occurs in DVC villas is much greater than the typical hotel room.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

??

And FYI...Out of curiosity I just asked DH what we paid for BLT -- his response: "Are you serious??" He's a PhD Econometrician currently specializing in valuation.

Guess we're both idiots for not recalling that DVC break-even from 8yrs ago.

I don't dwell on such details either...

...but when it's about "valuations"...I think DH (or just "husband" if the feet are on the ground)...would agree numbers would be kinda key, no?

For reference point?


But I was trying to figure out your work...I assume pharma or hospital admin or something like that...economic discussions only really work when people have a firm part in the economy...or else it comes off as pandering

 

[lockedoutlogic]

They did eventually sell out SSR and that wasn't considered a good location or a very deluxe resort compared to the other existing DVCs. So a SSR/OKW amenities level combined with a near BWV/BCV location should sell fine.

Saratoga was a lot cheaper...and contrary to some opinion round here...disney inflation isn't close to real inflation...

 

[lockedoutlogic]

But I see that the Tiana dessert party just sold out, so you are probably not wrong.

What in the Sam hell is that?!??

 

[preemiemama]

What in the Sam hell is that?!??

The ice cream social that takes place on the riverboat and has a Tiana meet and greet. They sell it as a "parade view". From the river...

 

[lockedoutlogic]

The ice cream social that takes place on the riverboat and has a Tiana meet and greet. They sell it as a "parade view". From the river...

Now what kinda stupidity is that?


Come on, people, help me defend the wall...

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I don't dwell on such details either...

...but when it's about "valuations"...I think DH (or just "husband" if the feet are on the ground)...would agree numbers would be kinda key, no?

For reference point?


But I was trying to figure out your work...I assume pharma or hospital admin or something like that...economic discussions only really work when people have a firm part in the economy...or else it comes off as pandering

Pandering? Not sure I know what you mean. While I have the Biochem degree I've never worked in pharma. Used the MBA/MSF to switch into corporate finance and consulting. Doing a lot of work now with NPOs that's really interesting -- fascinating for a hardened capitalist like myself, right?

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Pandering? Not sure I know what you mean. While I have the Biochem degree I've never worked in pharma. Used the MBA/MSF to switch into corporate finance and consulting. Doing a lot of work now with NPOs that's really interesting -- fascinating for a hardened capitalist like myself, right?

Sounds tasty...

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Now what kinda stupidity is that?

Notice my tag: "If you ticket it, they will come..."

That said, even I don't get the Tiana ice cream social -- but to each his/her own!

 

[Madonna3]

The ice cream social that takes place on the riverboat and has a Tiana meet and greet. They sell it as a "parade view". From the river...

With no actual view of the parade lol