Disney Pin Trading for 5 yo Princess??

kimberwee

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So, last night, while visiting our brand new Disney Outlet, I found all kinds of awesome park things to buy before our trip in the spring for DD's 5th Birthday. One of the items that I went ahead and purchased, was a Princess Lanyard Starter Set for only $9.99!! I wasn't planning on doing the whole pin trading thing with her because she is so young and because I wasn't about to spend $25 to get it going with all of the other stuff we will end up buying.

SO, bring on the tips and tricks, keeping in mind that my I have a Little Princess that will be doing the trading. I have no idea how this stuff works!

Thanks in advance. ;)
 
My kids have enjoyed it from an early age. My oldest started pin-trading at 5, and the next year, my youngest said, "where's my 'necklace'?" so we got him one too. All you have to know is that all CMs will trade with kids. We do all our trading with CMs. Your daughter should wear her lanyard, and if she wants to trade pins with a CM, she should approach them (you supervising, I'm sure) and they will hold their pins out for her to look at. If she wants to trade, she should point to it or tell the CM which one she wants. She can trade any of her pins, unless it's one the CM is already wearing. Remove the pin from her lanyard, with the back, and hand it to the CM, who will give you the one from their lanyard. Very easy!

It's a lot of fun and our kids love trading pins! (My husband and I do too!)
 
My DD8 has been pin trading since she was 4. She loves it. Here's a little trick. Remember the fun is trading for the pins that you want. Go on eBay and buy a couple dozen pins at $1 to $1.25 each and then let them trade to their hearts content. We've done this many years. We are introducing my daughter's two-year-old sister to pin trading on our October trip.

Very inexpensive Disney fun.
 
My DD8 has been pin trading since she was 4. She loves it. Here's a little trick. Remember the fun is trading for the pins that you want. Go on eBay and buy a couple dozen pins at $1 to $1.25 each and then let them trade to their hearts content. We've done this many years. We are introducing my daughter's two-year-old sister to pin trading on our October trip.

Very inexpensive Disney fun.

I'm going to edit this with a more detailed response within the hour (currently on my iPhone) but the vast majority of the large lots on eBay are comprised with counterfeit pins illegally produced in China. They look similar and in some cases nearly identical to the park issued pins (c)Disney on the back, but if you are getting them for less than $1.50 each and buying large lots from one seller, I can almost guarantee that they were not legally produced.

If you must buy on ebay, follow these tips:

Go check the Collectors board- they have a list of good/bad ebay sellers.

Do NOT buy pins from sellers that are based in China
Do NOT buy pins from sellers who have "pick your own lot" offering over 300 pins total
Do NOT buy pins from sellers who have large lots (50-100 pins) for less than $1 per pin
Do NOT buy pins from sellers who have MULTIPLE large lots
Do NOT buy pins from sellers who have ANY negative feedback stating that a buyer got a scrapper. Many pin sellers will have 99% feedback, and when you look close they have had 2 or 3 buyers state they got scrappers.

Do NOT buy pins from sellers who state that the pins will come in individual baggies
Do NOT buy pins from sellers who use phrases like "100% tradeable"
Do NOT buy pins from sellers who have feedback from making purchases from pin sellers from China

BE VERY WARY of sellers that only use stock photos of pins, and who state "pins may or may not be the ones pictured"

LOOK for ebay sellers offering pins in original packaging and/or on original backers
LOOK for ebay sellers offering single pins for around $2.00 a pin
LOOK for ebay sellers with NO feedback regarding scrappers
LOOK for ebay sellers based in the US
LOOK for ebay sellers on the collector's GOOD SELLERS list


Honestly, buying pins off of ebay is really risky- most of those large lots are either scrappers directly from China, or locals who buy large lots of scrappers and then take them into the parks and trade the scrappers with CMs to get "authentic park traded" pins.
 

My kids are older teens now, and they still like trading for some reason. :confused3 They never even look at the pins once we get home, but I guess it is thrill of the hunt while we are down there. My son is 18 and would never wear a lanyard, but when he was younger he used to put them on his baseball hat.

We've bought them on ebay to trade as well, but be careful about who you buy them from. Some are not authentic and can't be traded. Go with someone who has a 100% feedback rating if you do decide to buy more on ebay.
 
I'm going to edit this with a more detailed response within the hour (currently on my iPhone) but the vast majority of the large lots on eBay are comprised with counterfeit pins illegally produced in China. They look similar and in some cases nearly identical to the park issued pins (c)Disney on the back, but if you are getting them for less than $1.50 each and buying large lots from one seller, I can almost guarantee that they were not legally produced.

I hear what you are saying. We've purchased from this seller numerous times before and no one at Walt Disney World has every said one of our pins isn't authentic. After reading your post, I went and checked several of our pins from previous trips. I just looked at a few pins including ones we purchased from the pin trading store under Mickey's hat at HS say Made in China.

Here's the seller that I've bought from a few times over the years. Never been an issue yet. eBay Pin Seller
Review of eBay Pins
 
I hear what you are saying. We've purchased from this seller numerous times before and no one at Walt Disney World has every said one of our pins isn't authentic. After reading your post, I went and checked several of our pins from previous trips. I just looked at a few pins including ones we purchased from the pin trading store under Mickey's hat at HS say Made in China.

Here's the seller that I've bought from a few times over the years. Never been an issue yet. eBay Pin Seller
Review of eBay Pins

Let's be real here- this seller is selling hundreds, if not thousands of pins. Pins cost $7 each at Disney. Where, exactly do you think he is getting pins that allow him to cover his costs and make a profit at $1.10 a pin?

The factories in China that produce pins for Disney often "forget" to destroy the mold after a run is complete. They sell that mold under the table to another manufacturer that then makes the scrappers and sells them to American resellers (eBay sellers) for the low low price of $.30/each.
 
Star, I do not know but hopefully will soon. I clicked on this link and sent the auction number to Disney's eBay verification of copyright link. I actually had never considered that some pins on eBay were fakes until this thread led that direction.

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Considering how long this seller has been around and the number of sales, I would have thought WDW would have shut him/her down if they were indeed counterfeits. On eBay, I've never thought about fakes but more about being ripped off by someone not sending what they promised. Just to note this seller has been selling pins on eBay since 1998 with 100% positive feedback. No, I do not know him/her but have purchased from him/her a couple of times.
 
It's virtually impossible that a high volume seller of Disney pins on eBay is selling legitimate stuff - nobody has a 500,000 pin collection that they are "looking to sell off". A 300 Disney pin collection is a very big collection - I know, I've got one, and every one was purchased at a Disney park, Disney owned outlet, or Disney Store On line, before being traded at the park.

But really, Cast Members have no good way to tell if a pin is a fake, so they will trade for anything that isn't ridiculous looking, which does hurt the value of pin trading for those that try not to encourage theft of intellectual property.

Having said that, I am quite sure that some of the pins in my collection now are probably fakes, since I could have picked them up while trading with cast members. Since our family just does it for fun and we have no intention of trying to make a profit off of it, I don't much care if Disney doesn't care that they are fake. I just look for pins that I think are cute.

It also is possible to trade with visitors. It happened to me this summer. A Dad came up to me and said "Excuse me, I know you're not a cast member so don't have to trade, but my daughter would like to trade with you." I said "Make me an offer" and we made a deal (luckily she wanted a pin I was happy to give up - I would have accepted anything in trade from her, but I am quite attached to some of my own pins, so I didn't care at all what she was offering, although it would have been tough if she asked for one I really liked - and my kids would have never allowed me to say no to her no matter what she asked for).

So how can you save money while still buying only from Disney? If you hit the outlet stores (we stopped at the one in St. Augustine on the way down) you can usually pick up pins in sets for around $2.00 per pin. There are a couple outlet stores in Orlando too.

On Disney Store On Line, earlier this year, they had a clearance in a 3-pin set from "Up" for $6.97 per set ($2.33 per pin) - I bought 20 of those sets (60 pins).

Also, while we were down there this summer, they had a promotion that expired in the parks before we arrived. They had a lanyard with 8 pins that they sold for $15 - before we arrived, the promotion was you had to spend $40 to be able to buy the set - but they had switched to Mickey watches as the new promo. So the old inventory was being sold off for $15 per set - with no requirement for any additional purchase. I bought 15 sets (120 pins).

(Yes, I do have a problem. And no, I have no intention of trying to fix it).

Last year, we were down there and had only a small number of pins to trade, and I had the fever, so I bought some 7-pin sets at full retail price for $30, coming to about $4.50 per pin - that's the cheapest you'll be able to get on site without finding some kind of deal.

We all have a ball doing it. I know many people would consider us nuts for doing that - but so what?

Back home, we have a bulletin board covered with cloth that we use to display the pins, so we do have a use for them once the vacation is over.

Have fun!
 
After reading this thread, I felt that the posters were most likely right and that the pins sold by the seller on eBay that I had purchased from was probably selling "fakes". I reported my suspicions to both eBay and Disney's eBay Vero. I got a reply back from both.

eBay states that they have investigated the seller and the auction listing. They thank me for my report but have discovered nothing wrong with either.

Disney's eBay Vero replied at 3:50 AM, really strange but it states basically the same thing. Thanks for my report but they have determined that the seller is not violating Disney's copyright or selling unauthorized products.

How are they getting hundreds or thousands of pins? I don't know but with the verification from Disney, I'm going to allow my daughter to trade them. I've compared the backs of the pins to ones that we purchased in the parks and ones that we traded for in the parks, I see no difference. A couple of the pins I received from this site were duplicates of ones we already had.

This seller has sold 1427 of these pins. His feedback rating is 2049 with 100% positive plus 5 stars and he has been on eBay since July 29, 1998. I'm sure I'm not the first to suggest to eBay and Disney that he is selling fakes or scrappers.

I stand by my original posting that the OP should purchase some pins to take with her so that her child can trade. When you buy a starter set, many won't want to trade the pins of the starter set away and break up the set.

Another tip... Look for the GREEN swatch or lanyard on a cast member. That means that the CM will only trade with children. My DD8 has been trading for about five years. Each trip she trades pins until she gets what she is looking for. One year it was princesses, the next it was villains and who knows what it will be this year.
 
Well even after getting the okay from both eBay and Disney Vero it appears that the seller wasn't so on the up and up or at least eBay didn't feel it was kosher. I got another message from eBay.

We're writing to let you know that this listing for an item you won or bid on is no longer available:

150633332725 - LOT OF 25 DISNEY TRADING PIN TRADERS-NO DUPLICATES

We understand this may be disappointing, but occasionally we need to remove listings. In some cases, the item itself is fine, but was listed in a way that didn't follow eBay's guidelines.

Here's what you can do next:

-- If you already paid, received your item, and you're satisfied, please disregard this notice.
-- If you won the item but haven't paid, don't pay. Since eBay removed the listing, you're no longer obligated to go through with the transaction.
-- If you already paid for this item through eBay, and it's past the estimated delivery time, you can open a case in our Resolution Center. Click the link below, and select the "I haven't received it yet" option. This will guide you through the process of opening a case.
http://resolutioncenter.ebay.com

If the seller offers you the item outside of eBay, we strongly discourage you from accepting the offer. These types of transactions are extremely risky and aren't covered by eBay buyer protection programs.

If you didn't pay through eBay or PayPal, and:
-- You paid by Western Union or MoneyGram, contact the company directly (Western Union 800-325-6000 or MoneyGram 800-926-9400).
-- You paid by check, contact your bank to stop payment.

Thanks,

eBay


To learn more about eBay Buyer Protection, please visit:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/buyer-protection.html


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Thanks for the update Bell- and thank you for reporting the seller to ebay! I'm glad to see they're taking action against some of them.
 
As a relatively new CM who has never pin traded I have to agree that a lot of CMs don't know if a pin is genuine or not. I always accept the pin unless it's a duplicate of one I already have. I got one once that felt different - very lightweight - and thought it was probably a fake. I showed it to a manager and some coworkers but none of them knew if it was or not. The manager offered to swap it out for another one.
 
My DD will be turning 4 on our trip and we started her on pin trading last year. She LOVES it. When we got home she would play "pin trading" with her stuffed animals lol.

I remember this one CM last year was like "Are you sure she's going to be OK with giving up a pin?" because she was so young lol I assured her it would be fine. she wasn't attached to the pins... she just liked the act of trading them :rotfl:
 
I really wouldn't be too mad if i got a fake pin from trading with a cm because I could probably trade it again if i desired I just trade for any pin i like more than the one i have already that i like the least
 
I'm not going to get into the moral discussion that these threads always lead to. I do wonder, however, why Disney is less concerned about phony pins than anyone else. This is the same company that cracked down on their films being shown in classrooms because of copyright infringement, yet they make zero effort to police this matter. Maybe Disney needs to examine whether their manufacturers are the ones doing the counterfeiting, and if that's the case, take some action against them. At the same time, if the manufacturer is indeed making pins for the eBay dealers, are the pins even counterfeit?
 
I'm not going to get into the moral discussion that these threads always lead to. I do wonder, however, why Disney is less concerned about phony pins than anyone else. This is the same company that cracked down on their films being shown in classrooms because of copyright infringement, yet they make zero effort to police this matter. Maybe Disney needs to examine whether their manufacturers are the ones doing the counterfeiting, and if that's the case, take some action against them. At the same time, if the manufacturer is indeed making pins for the eBay dealers, are the pins even counterfeit?

Yes.

counterfeit- adj- Made in exact imitation of something valuable or important with the intention to deceive or defraud

The pins aren't authorized to be run by Disney in excess of the order they make. Disney orders the molds to be destroyed after the runs. Obviously, they aren't always destroyed.

The manufacturers of the scrappers also use the molds, but come up with new color variations of the pins.
 
Yes.

counterfeit- adj- Made in exact imitation of something valuable or important with the intention to deceive or defraud

The pins aren't authorized to be run by Disney in excess of the order they make. Disney orders the molds to be destroyed after the runs. Obviously, they aren't always destroyed.

The manufacturers of the scrappers also use the molds, but come up with new color variations of the pins.

I am aware of the definition. It is rare, however, that the item in question is manufactured by the SAME people, and then sold to another buyer at a lesser price. If there is NO difference in the pins that are sold by the manufacturers (I've never heard anyone say how they are different, just that eBay pins aren't genuine) they are not counterfeit.
 
I am aware of the definition. It is rare, however, that the item in question is manufactured by the SAME people, and then sold to another buyer at a lesser price. If there is NO difference in the pins that are sold by the manufacturers (I've never heard anyone say how they are different, just that eBay pins aren't genuine) they are not counterfeit.

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There are normally slight variations between the originals and the scrappers. So yes, counterfeit

There are also 20 or so Vinylmation pins that are based on actual vinylmation figures but never released by Disney- the manufacturers did their own colorations of authorized pins, and sell them as "Disney Authentic"
 
We loved pin trading! We took our first DW trip in May. My twin girls are 5 and they LOVED IT! Great age. Have fun!
 












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