Disney or Universal??

tiffanym5375 said:
. Traveling in my party will be DH, DS, grandparents, and myself. DH and I have tickets for universal already.. we had them last year when we were suppose to go before I found out we were expecting.
Tiffany

You already have tickets and an interest in IOA/US and there will be certainly enough for the kid to do, trust me. I would upgrade to a power pass so you have the flexibility to pop back over there if you'd like. You might be able to wait until you are about to leave to upgrade, not sure, but I think it can be done if you do it the same day activate the ticket. The grandparents won't have near as much walking to do at IOA/US either.
 
We always do both. That said, we won't be doing Universal next time.

I really didn't enjoy it - and there was very little there for the kids. On the other hand, we all LOVED Islands of Adventure - that was one of the most fun days we had on our whole 2 week trip! There really was something for everyone (except my one year old, but the same can be said about Disney).

We will probably buy 7 day tickets for Disney and a one day pass for IOA on our next trip. Universal wasn't for us, but now IOA is a cannot miss on our holiday list!!
 
ReallyFunMom said:
You already have tickets and an interest in IOA/US and there will be certainly enough for the kid to do, trust me. I would upgrade to a power pass so you have the flexibility to pop back over there if you'd like. You might be able to wait until you are about to leave to upgrade, not sure, but I think it can be done if you do it the same day activate the ticket. The grandparents won't have near as much walking to do at IOA/US either.
Do you work for Universal?

Come on people, this isn't a Universal vs Disney thread. The question is which is better for a 2 yr old. Let's compare the attractions that are suitable for a 2 yr old at MK, USF, and IOA. I left out play areas because all the parks have play areas and while they are a fun place to let your kids play, it's not really a big draw for most people.

Magic Kingdom:
Astro Orbiter
Cinderellas Carousel
Dumbo
Tiki Room
Haunted Mansion (maybe)
IASW
Jungle Cruise
Liberty Square Riverboat
Magic Carpets of Aladdin
Winnie the Pooh
Mickey's Philharmagic
Peter Pan's Flight
Pirates of the Caribbean
Indy Speedway
Walt Disney World Railroad
Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse
Tomorrowland Transit Authority
Buzz Lightyear
Goofy's Barnstormer (maybe - 35" min. height)

Universal Studios Florida:
Jimmy Neutron
Shrek
Barney
Woody Woodpecker's Nuthouse Coaster (maybe - 36")
ET
Animal Planet Live

Islands Of Adventure:
Pteranodon Flyers (maybe)
Caro-Seuss-El
One Fish, Two Fish
Cat in the Hat
 
Well, without a doubt, it is WDW for me!!!! But, I have also been to Universal twice, and we did enjoy it. The thing is I am a Diseny Freak, so nothing will compare to that for me. One thing I can tell you is that Universal's Islands of Adventure is a wonderful place to go for thrill ride seekers! I do enjoy the Studio's, but I prefer the Islands of Adventure section better.

:mickeyjum WDW :mickeyjum
 

While it's difficult to compare the two (nothing compares to Disney), it's fairly easy to do both, unless you have kids in tow. We usually do 5 days at Disney and 2-3 days at Universal/IOA. I couldn't go to the Orlando area and not go to Universal/IOA. I LOVE The Mummy at Universal! Plus, you can get 2 full day passes for $85 +tax or something inexpensive like that and they add on another 3 days!

Have fun!
 
Personally, I WILL NEVER GO TO UNIVERSAL AGAIN! Let me explain..

Stayed onsite at Disney for 10 days. First trip, so I figured we would need to "escape" from that atmosphere for a day. The entire time we were at US/IOA, we wished we were back at Disney for several reasons..
1) While there were a few rides that were unique (MUMMY, Spiderman) for the most part you could find exactly the same thing at Disney except with better themeing. For example: MIB is the SAME as Buzz Lightyear.
2) The only ride I really considered a rollercoaster was the HULK, and it was fun, but not enough to make up for all the "thrill rides" I had heard and read about. Take this with a grain of salt though because we live pretty close to Cedar Point which boasts 16+ legit rollercoasters including most of the tallest and fastest in the world. My boyfriend and I LOVE rollercoasters, and were disappointed in what we found at US/IOA.
3) We commented several times that we felt sorry for anyone who had purchased the express passes (and I know several had because I tried and they were sold out) because the parks were soo slow we never waited more than 5 minutes for a ride (with the exception of Jaws). We were able to do BOTH parks between the hours of 10 and 4 riding every single ride and we sat to eat at Mythos for an hour.
4)The MAJORITY of rides are motion simulators. The first one we went on, someone was actually vomiting in front of us, and the next smelled of vomit. Of the rides that aren't simulators, the rest will get you SOAKING wet. Not splashed or wet, but DRENCHED!
5) The locker system is HORRIBLE! Not a single machine in the whole park would read my finger prints- any of them! 3 different times we had to have park security help us get our stuff into and out of a locker just so we could ride a ride!
6) The park seemed sadly unthemed and dirty after being in WDW for so long. The employees were completely uninterested and rude. And between the shuttle, tickets, and food we had paid over $250 to be there!

All that being said...
it was nice being out of Disney for a few hours. We did enjoy Suess Landing. But next time, we will ABSOLUTLEY be going to Sea World!

But should you decide to go, I hope you have a great time!
 
ReallyFunMom said:
I think 2 is perfect for IOA/US. We did these parks when the kids were young and exhausted the kiddie things there. If you wait until the kids are 6 & 7 they have already outgrown a lot. Do these parks when the kids are young and more inclined to half days. Take turns watching kiddo play in play areas while adults take in adult ride, maybe using single rider line. Have no lines for merry-go-round and IOA's version of dumbo while others are racing off to the coasters. See Barny show and animal show. IOA/US is inexpensive enough to lap a park in the morning, eat late lunch at citywalk and go back to the condo and not feel like you've wasted money by not going a full day. IOA/US are smaller parks, we liked working our way up to Disney parks. Theme parks are tiring and young children are tiring. I like the two year pass while child is age 2-4 and then heading to Disney until you've done everything which may take a few years.

Ha, no I don't work for Universal! Just relaying our experience. We enjoyed doing IOA/US while they were young and liked that there was less to do in a way, we couldn't last the whole day. With tickets in hand and 4 adults, I'm not sure the 2 year old should dictate things. At that age my kids would spend HOURS just in the IOA/US play areas not mentioned in the list, esp water play. We had a pass and a leisurely attitude so that was ok. Moved to Disney at ages 4-7 and really enjoy it but also have to work it a little more. More walking, longer days, sprinting around for fastpasses. I was glad I started off small and worked up to the Disney parks. I didn't need more than a "get there at opening" plan for IOA/US which was very easy when kids were young, we were up at 6am anyway. We are going back to IOA/US after a few Disney years to mix it up, kids 7 & 8, and I probably could have waited another year but there was a good deal on two year pass. Anyway, they are way too old for Barney and Feviels play area and If I ran a zoo. They have boycotted Dumbo and Smallworld and Pooh at Disney so I guess they may have outgrown Red Fish Blue Fish and the Carosel at IOA calling them baby rides. If we hadn't have gone when they were young, we wouldn't have been able to appreciate some of the things for younger kids. I like both Universal and Disney. Just expressing an opinion and possibly thinking along the practical lines that they already have tickets and if the grandparents have done Disney in the past, might enjoy something new and save Disney for another longer trip when the child is a little older and can get some milage out of a multiday MYW ticket.
 
Honestly, I think Disney would be better for the 2 year old, but what about the other adults? I don't really care for IoA as much. THe theming in ONE part of the park is great, but the rest reminds me of my local amusement parks. The thrill rides aren't that great compared to Cedar Point and the noise gets to me a lot. If the grandparents aren't into thrill rides at all, I'd skip USF/IoA all together.
 
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I think 2 is perfect for IOA/US. We did these parks when the kids were young and exhausted the kiddie things there. If you wait until the kids are 6 & 7 they have already outgrown a lot. Do these parks when the kids are young and more inclined to half days. Take turns watching kiddo play in play areas while adults take in adult ride, maybe using single rider line. Have no lines for merry-go-round and IOA's version of dumbo while others are racing off to the coasters. See Barny show and animal show. IOA/US is inexpensive enough to lap a park in the morning, eat late lunch at citywalk and go back to the condo and not feel like you've wasted money by not going a full day. IOA/US are smaller parks, we liked working our way up to Disney parks. Theme parks are tiring and young children are tiring. I like the two year pass while child is age 2-4 and then heading to Disney until you've done everything which may take a few years.

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Ha, no I don't work for Universal! Just relaying our experience. We enjoyed doing IOA/US while they were young and liked that there was less to do in a way, we couldn't last the whole day. With tickets in hand and 4 adults, I'm not sure the 2 year old should dictate things. At that age my kids would spend HOURS just in the IOA/US play areas not mentioned in the list, esp water play. We had a pass and a leisurely attitude so that was ok. Moved to Disney at ages 4-7 and really enjoy it but also have to work it a little more. More walking, longer days, sprinting around for fastpasses. I was glad I started off small and worked up to the Disney parks. I didn't need more than a "get there at opening" plan for IOA/US which was very easy when kids were young, we were up at 6am anyway. We are going back to IOA/US after a few Disney years to mix it up, kids 7 & 8, and I probably could have waited another year but there was a good deal on two year pass. Anyway, they are way too old for Barney and Feviels play area and If I ran a zoo. They have boycotted Dumbo and Smallworld and Pooh at Disney so I guess they may have outgrown Red Fish Blue Fish and the Carosel at IOA calling them baby rides. If we hadn't have gone when they were young, we wouldn't have been able to appreciate some of the things for younger kids. I like both Universal and Disney. Just expressing an opinion and possibly thinking along the practical lines that they already have tickets and if the grandparents have done Disney in the past, might enjoy something new and save Disney for another longer trip when the child is a little older and can get some milage out of a multiday MYW ticket.
 
worlddreamer said:
Personally, I WILL NEVER GO TO UNIVERSAL AGAIN! Let me explain..

Stayed onsite at Disney for 10 days. First trip, so I figured we would need to "escape" from that atmosphere for a day. The entire time we were at US/IOA, we wished we were back at Disney for several reasons..
1) While there were a few rides that were unique (MUMMY, Spiderman) for the most part you could find exactly the same thing at Disney except with better themeing. For example: MIB is the SAME as Buzz Lightyear.
2) The only ride I really considered a rollercoaster was the HULK, and it was fun, but not enough to make up for all the "thrill rides" I had heard and read about. Take this with a grain of salt though because we live pretty close to Cedar Point which boasts 16+ legit rollercoasters including most of the tallest and fastest in the world. My boyfriend and I LOVE rollercoasters, and were disappointed in what we found at US/IOA.
3) We commented several times that we felt sorry for anyone who had purchased the express passes (and I know several had because I tried and they were sold out) because the parks were soo slow we never waited more than 5 minutes for a ride (with the exception of Jaws). We were able to do BOTH parks between the hours of 10 and 4 riding every single ride and we sat to eat at Mythos for an hour.
4)The MAJORITY of rides are motion simulators. The first one we went on, someone was actually vomiting in front of us, and the next smelled of vomit. Of the rides that aren't simulators, the rest will get you SOAKING wet. Not splashed or wet, but DRENCHED!
5) The locker system is HORRIBLE! Not a single machine in the whole park would read my finger prints- any of them! 3 different times we had to have park security help us get our stuff into and out of a locker just so we could ride a ride!
6) The park seemed sadly unthemed and dirty after being in WDW for so long. The employees were completely uninterested and rude. And between the shuttle, tickets, and food we had paid over $250 to be there!

All that being said...
it was nice being out of Disney for a few hours. We did enjoy Suess Landing. But next time, we will ABSOLUTLEY be going to Sea World!

But should you decide to go, I hope you have a great time!

I hate to inform you, but most of your information is completely wrong. If you did visit, you must not have done hardly anything there!!

Rollercoasters at IOA:
Hulk
Fire Dragon
Ice Dragon
Flying Unicorn (Small coaster)

Rollercoasters at US:
The Mummy


MIB is much MUCH bigger and more impressive than Buzz Lightyear in every way. Buzz is like a carnival ride in comparison.

There are 2 motion simulators at Universal, TWO! Back to the Future and Jimmy Neutron. (Unless you're trying to count Spiderman among them, but it's really more like Dinosaur at AK as the motion base but with more movement)

There is nothing unthemed about either park or anything less themed than a comparable Disney park.

So if you really did go there, you must have left in a hurry to miss everything :sad2:
 
Your son will not be able to do anything at Universal expect ET, Barney, and the water themed Curious George. One of the adults would have to sit out with him while the rest enjoyed the rides.
 
ChrisFL said:
I hate to inform you, but most of your information is completely wrong. If you did visit, you must not have done hardly anything there!!

Rollercoasters at IOA:
Hulk
Fire Dragon
Ice Dragon
Flying Unicorn (Small coaster)

Rollercoasters at US:
The Mummy

I don't think she was saying there weren't ANY rollercoasters. I think she was saying that, when compared with Cedar Point which is close to her, she didn't find the rides as fast or tall when put side by side. Being that Cedar Point is notorious for having HUGE rollercoasters and some of the fastest in the world, I'd say that's why she went in expecting a different SORT of rollercoaster. It's understandable that if you're used to the monsters at CP, there's no way you're going to look at any of the coasters in the Florida area and say, "Whoa."
 
So that Means..
Disney has no rollercoasters? Because RNRC really isn't THAT great. The themeing is bad and it's the shortest ride I've ever been on.
Rollercoasters aren't about how fast you go or how big the drops are, there about getting that feeling of exhilerartion(sp) and I even get that on the Unicorn! So if it's not a rollercoaster what is it then :o

blondeheroine said:
there's no way you're going to look at any of the coasters in the Florida area and say, "Whoa."

Have you been to Busch gardens? They all LEAVE me breathless. And I've been to Cedar point and I didn't think anything THAT special was there.
Breathless rides;
Sheikra
Hulk
ROTM
Kraken
Ice/Fire Dragons

And I've been to cedar Point, came off and thought, "Is that what they were talking about :guilty: ;l"
 
worlddreamer said:
Personally, I WILL NEVER GO TO UNIVERSAL AGAIN! Let me explain..

Stayed onsite at Disney for 10 days. First trip, so I figured we would need to "escape" from that atmosphere for a day. The entire time we were at US/IOA, we wished we were back at Disney for several reasons..
1) While there were a few rides that were unique (MUMMY, Spiderman) for the most part you could find exactly the same thing at Disney except with better themeing. For example: MIB is the SAME as Buzz Lightyear.
2) The only ride I really considered a rollercoaster was the HULK, and it was fun, but not enough to make up for all the "thrill rides" I had heard and read about. Take this with a grain of salt though because we live pretty close to Cedar Point which boasts 16+ legit rollercoasters including most of the tallest and fastest in the world. My boyfriend and I LOVE rollercoasters, and were disappointed in what we found at US/IOA.
3) We commented several times that we felt sorry for anyone who had purchased the express passes (and I know several had because I tried and they were sold out) because the parks were soo slow we never waited more than 5 minutes for a ride (with the exception of Jaws). We were able to do BOTH parks between the hours of 10 and 4 riding every single ride and we sat to eat at Mythos for an hour.
4)The MAJORITY of rides are motion simulators. The first one we went on, someone was actually vomiting in front of us, and the next smelled of vomit. Of the rides that aren't simulators, the rest will get you SOAKING wet. Not splashed or wet, but DRENCHED!
5) The locker system is HORRIBLE! Not a single machine in the whole park would read my finger prints- any of them! 3 different times we had to have park security help us get our stuff into and out of a locker just so we could ride a ride!
6) The park seemed sadly unthemed and dirty after being in WDW for so long. The employees were completely uninterested and rude. And between the shuttle, tickets, and food we had paid over $250 to be there!

All that being said...
it was nice being out of Disney for a few hours. We did enjoy Suess Landing. But next time, we will ABSOLUTLEY be going to Sea World!

But should you decide to go, I hope you have a great time!


1. That is your opinion, IMO MIB might be 'the same' as Buzz, but it is better by a long shot. Its different tastes for different people, only the person themself can decide that.

2. Dueling Dragons is a roller coaster, as is the Mummy even if it is a mild one.

3. No comment, I've seen times where it is busy, times where it isn't - its the same at Disney.

4. Never, ever seen anyone vomiting on either park, Universal or Disney. It is a bodily function, nothing Universal can do if it does occur however. Jaws isn't a motion simulator, nor does it get you wet for starters and there are at the very least, a few more that I won't even bother to mention.

5. Never had the problem with lockers, and we use them every day atleast 15 times so far. Try cleaning your finger off beforehand on a pant leg or something.

6. You did visit IOA, didn't you? Never seen the "dirty" or "uninterested" employees either, Universal or Disney.

I think you went into Universal with your mind set on something else, and in that you probably ruined your own trip looking for negatives on every turn. Universal's ticket prices are SO cheap compared to Disney, it's almost a must to visit -atleast- once.


If coasters is what you were looking for, perhaps Cedar or Busch Gardens would have been more fitting.
 
blondeheroine said:
I don't think she was saying there weren't ANY rollercoasters. I think she was saying that, when compared with Cedar Point which is close to her, she didn't find the rides as fast or tall when put side by side. Being that Cedar Point is notorious for having HUGE rollercoasters and some of the fastest in the world, I'd say that's why she went in expecting a different SORT of rollercoaster. It's understandable that if you're used to the monsters at CP, there's no way you're going to look at any of the coasters in the Florida area and say, "Whoa."

She said the only ride she considered to be a rollercoaster was the Hulk, which is clearly false.

So either she never visited 1/2 of IOA or she's making this all up (and I've seen that happen before)
 
worlddreamer said:
Personally, I WILL NEVER GO TO UNIVERSAL AGAIN! Let me explain..

Stayed onsite at Disney for 10 days. First trip, so I figured we would need to "escape" from that atmosphere for a day. The entire time we were at US/IOA, we wished we were back at Disney for several reasons..
1) While there were a few rides that were unique (MUMMY, Spiderman) for the most part you could find exactly the same thing at Disney except with better themeing. For example: MIB is the SAME as Buzz Lightyear.
2) The only ride I really considered a rollercoaster was the HULK, and it was fun, but not enough to make up for all the "thrill rides" I had heard and read about. Take this with a grain of salt though because we live pretty close to Cedar Point which boasts 16+ legit rollercoasters including most of the tallest and fastest in the world. My boyfriend and I LOVE rollercoasters, and were disappointed in what we found at US/IOA.
3) We commented several times that we felt sorry for anyone who had purchased the express passes (and I know several had because I tried and they were sold out) because the parks were soo slow we never waited more than 5 minutes for a ride (with the exception of Jaws). We were able to do BOTH parks between the hours of 10 and 4 riding every single ride and we sat to eat at Mythos for an hour.
4)The MAJORITY of rides are motion simulators. The first one we went on, someone was actually vomiting in front of us, and the next smelled of vomit. Of the rides that aren't simulators, the rest will get you SOAKING wet. Not splashed or wet, but DRENCHED!
5) The locker system is HORRIBLE! Not a single machine in the whole park would read my finger prints- any of them! 3 different times we had to have park security help us get our stuff into and out of a locker just so we could ride a ride!
6) The park seemed sadly unthemed and dirty after being in WDW for so long. The employees were completely uninterested and rude. And between the shuttle, tickets, and food we had paid over $250 to be there!

All that being said...
it was nice being out of Disney for a few hours. We did enjoy Suess Landing. But next time, we will ABSOLUTLEY be going to Sea World!

But should you decide to go, I hope you have a great time!

1) Completely a matter of opinion, and I completely disagree with yours. MIB may use the same basic premise as Buzz, but to me the theming is way better on MIB, not to mention the added bonus of an actual storyline that continues throughout the whole ride, and the extra bonus of actual competition between the left and right halves. Also, if Disney is the same, where in Disney can you find Posiedon's Fury, Twister, Jaws, a racing coaster like Dueling Dragons, Earthquake, a themed restaurant to compare with Mythos, the E.T. Adventure, or anything that comes close to T2:3D?

2) As others have said, IOA has Hulk, Dueling Dragons, the Mummy's Revenge, and even the kiddie coaster called the Flying Unicorn. Compare that to Disney's Space and Splash Mountains, RNRC, and Expedition Everest. Two parks-four coasters, vs four parks-four coasters. And when it comes to quality, I think that IOAs coasters match up pretty much evenly to Disney's. Of course, if you want to compare to Cedar Point, then you conveniently forgot that Disney also fails miserably to compete with Cedar - but it's not supposed to, and neither is Universal/IOA.

3) You felt sorry for those who bought the Express Pass yet you tried to buy one yourself? Maybe they weren't sold out; maybe Uni was just not selling it that day, just like Disney turns off FastPass when it gets slow.

4) MAJORITY? Count 'em, you're wrong. And there are only two soaking rides in IOA (plus one wet ride that doesn't soak) and none in USF at all.

5) I've seen plenty of people having problems with the lockers, and 9 out of 10 of them were operator error. You need to use the same finger to drop off and pick up, you need to put the finger on in exactly the same way both times, and you need to put the whorls or the fingerprints on the reader, not the part further down.

6) I don't know what parks you're talking about, but the USF and IOA that I have visited every year since 1990 is today as clean as Disney (for a while they were actually cleaner), and I have not encountered a Uni TM who was not enthusiastic, polite, helpful, and seemed to be very happy in their jobs for years.

My experiences at the Uni parks are so radically different from yours I can't explain it. Perhaps it's because I go to Uni looking for fun, and maybe you went to Uni looking for an excuse not to go back.
 
WillCAD said:
1) Completely a matter of opinion, and I completely disagree with yours. MIB may use the same basic premise as Buzz, but to me the theming is way better on MIB, not to mention the added bonus of an actual storyline that continues throughout the whole ride, and the extra bonus of actual competition between the left and right halves. Also, if Disney is the same, where in Disney can you find Posiedon's Fury, Twister, Jaws, a racing coaster like Dueling Dragons, Earthquake, a themed restaurant to compare with Mythos, the E.T. Adventure, or anything that comes close to T2:3D?

2) As others have said, IOA has Hulk, Dueling Dragons, the Mummy's Revenge, and even the kiddie coaster called the Flying Unicorn. Compare that to Disney's Space and Splash Mountains, RNRC, and Expedition Everest. Two parks-four coasters, vs four parks-four coasters. And when it comes to quality, I think that IOAs coasters match up pretty much evenly to Disney's. Of course, if you want to compare to Cedar Point, then you conveniently forgot that Disney also fails miserably to compete with Cedar - but it's not supposed to, and neither is Universal/IOA.

3) You felt sorry for those who bought the Express Pass yet you tried to buy one yourself? Maybe they weren't sold out; maybe Uni was just not selling it that day, just like Disney turns off FastPass when it gets slow.

4) MAJORITY? Count 'em, you're wrong. And there are only two soaking rides in IOA (plus one wet ride that doesn't soak) and none in USF at all.

5) I've seen plenty of people having problems with the lockers, and 9 out of 10 of them were operator error. You need to use the same finger to drop off and pick up, you need to put the finger on in exactly the same way both times, and you need to put the whorls or the fingerprints on the reader, not the part further down.

6) I don't know what parks you're talking about, but the USF and IOA that I have visited every year since 1990 is today as clean as Disney (for a while they were actually cleaner), and I have not encountered a Uni TM who was not enthusiastic, polite, helpful, and seemed to be very happy in their jobs for years.

My experiences at the Uni parks are so radically different from yours I can't explain it. Perhaps it's because I go to Uni looking for fun, and maybe you went to Uni looking for an excuse not to go back.
I agree with you 100% on your reply...especially the last line. ;)
 
As much as I loooooooooove Universal, I would say Disney since you have a two year old and grandparents. Universal, in my opinion, is better for teens to right before grandparenthood. Sure, there are things that everyone can enjoy, but I think that Disney is better suited for the very young and seniors.
 
worlddreamer, I don't mean to pile on here, but you could NOT have gone to Univesal and Islands of Adventure and done everything in both parks in 5 hours. That is simply impossible.

I don't doubt you did not enjoy your time there, but other than your opinons, which are certainly as valid as anyone else's, your information is not accurate.

I've been going to Cedar Point since the late 70's and while it is certainly heavier on the coasters than IoA, they aren't really the same category of park. I'm sorry to hear you missed Dueling Dragons though (since you think the Hulk is the only coaster there), because it's a terrific ride. Perhaps you might want to try Busch Gardens if you want a park to compare with Cedar Point.

As for barfing, I have the unhappy distinction of having been next to a barfing guest in every park. Oh wait....make that every DISNEY park. It happens. Nothing the parks can do about it. If you think it doesn't happen at Disney, have you heard of a popular passtime called Drink Around The World? :rolleyes:

I do hope you enjoy SeaWorld, though. It's also a terrific park. But be fair when you return....with no coasters other than Kraken, it isn't Cedar Point either! ;)
 


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