Disney gives lifetime ban on Guest

[daisyforever]

Yesterday I was at the parks and I was talking to a security guard about the bans Disney gives at WDW. My neigbor's son is 19 and was caught shoplifting. He is a true lover of the parks and I was wondering if there is anything that can be done to left the ban. He has been forced by his family to seek help for his actions. The security guard I talked to at the MK was not able to comment.

 

[Malificient Tater]

Yesterday I was at the parks and I was talking to a security guard about the bans Disney gives at WDW. My neigbor's son is 19 and was caught shoplifting. He is a true lover of the parks and I was wondering if there is anything that can be done to left the ban. He has been forced by his family to seek help for his actions. The security guard I talked to at the MK was not able to comment.

Ok I am going to bite. So this adult male loves Disney so much he is going to steal from them.And he got caught so he is now banned. And his family is making him seek help for treatment or to show Disney that he is sorry and wants to come back? Sorry I think place have a right to ban you if you are stealing from them. He is 19 so he is an adult and should have known that he would be in trouble for stealing.

 

[mamacatnv]

Curious.
How does Disney enforce a life time ban? That IMO does not seem feasible

 

[MushyMushy]

Why should they lift the ban?

My DS shoplifted a pint of milk that cost a little over a dollar. He got a lifetime ban from one of two stores in our town. Tough crap, he needs to deal with it. It's kind of inconvenient once in a while, but whatever.

Hey, there's always Universal and Sea World!

 

[Obi-Wan Pinobi]

Curious.
How does Disney enforce a life time ban? That IMO does not seem feasible

Disney could charge the bannee with trespassing if they come onto Disney property again and Disney catches them.

Something I'm curious about -- would Disney or similar places have a lifetime ban in lieu of pressing charges?

 

[Sandy321]

Good question Obi -

and I know the ticket entry does not take fingerprints - but in 20 years, how does disney know who they banned? I mean if the banee puts ressies in another person's name, and credit (ie a spouse) would Disney (or any establishment) know?

 

[mamacatnv]

Disney could charge the bannee with trespassing if they come onto Disney property again and Disney catches them.

I still do not see how it is tracked lifetime is a really long time to keep records around and up to date. Besides, if the person was not charged, what do they have really, to use as a basis for identifying the person? Seems like big words without any real backing to me. 20 years down the road stupid teenager returns with his family, is ready to drop thousands of dollars at the gate when along comes Mr. Security Guard with his "Black Book" and the man is denied access...........Ummmm, I think not.


PSA:
I am not saying it is right or wrong - I am just curious as to whether or not anyone really knows how a lifetime ban is managed.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

I would be shocked if they could keep track of all of the people who are banned for life. This is a company who's computer system is so outdated they lose ADRs that are made less than 180 days out.

 

[justhat]

I agree. How can they enforce something like this. In the above example especially. Cause I know I looked a lot different at 19yo than I do now and I'm only 27. Imagine what I'll look like in another 10 or 15 years. How would they know it's me? Even if they track by name, how do they know it's me and not someone else with my name? That would really stink if you're a John Smith!

 

[dcgrumpy]

How would they enforce it? How would they knwo who you are? You don't have to show ID or even give a name buying tickets or enetering a park.

 

[mamacatnv]

I would be shocked if they could keep track of all of the people who are banned for life. This is a company who's computer system is so outdated they lose ADRs that are made less than 180 days out.

Good Point!

The risk alone, just think... Joe Bob is busted for shoplifting and 10 years later his cousin Billy Bob takes his family to WDW where due to some address/name/finger scan whatever mix up, and Billy Bob is denied access in error. Billy Bob calls his cousin, John Bob who is a big time lawyer, the Bobs sue and the entire Bob family ends up as as the proud owners of WDW. I am just not seeing it, again, I think it is bark without a bite.

 

[terri01p]

Well I hate to be known for this but whenever I was 18 I shoplifted a pair of shoes ( go figure ) from walmart. I was banned for life...I stayed away for about 8 months and then started going back....fastforward to today I'm 45 and use my credit card there, I know most of the people by first name and have never been pulled aside for questioning. Of course I never would do anything like that now and looking back can't beleive I did that then, but my point is they don't know me from Adam, they might would have 3 months after the shoplifting but not years later.

 

[DaParkers]

It doesn't matter if they can track it or not. He did something stupid and must deal with the consequences. Not find a way around them. He needs to stay away for a few years, and then ask for the ban to be lifted. He's 19 and presumably not close to death, so he'll be fine without Disney for a little bit. I would suggest he waits until he hits 21 and then ask for the ban to be lifted. I'll bet money that they'll do it.

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

In all likely hood, if a person is banned for life, it would not come up unless he or she was involved in some other incident and possibly security records were checked, then it would be a "hey, you were banned for life" on top of what ever the situation triggered the name check! Them MAYBE WDW might press charges of trespass!

 

[disney junky]

Curious.
How does Disney enforce a life time ban? That IMO does not seem feasible

I asked the same question and I was told that they do, but details were pretty hush hush. I guess if people can be banned from casinos, people can be banned from WDW.

 

[Tiziminchac]

I know someone who was caught shoplifting in MK. They weren't banned for life. And banning was never brought up. They were escorted out of the park that day.

 

[bluefairy13]

Was he 19 when he shoplifted? If he was under 18 I'd think it would be something could be forgiven legally but unfortunately 19 is an adult so he can be held accountable for this (but not served a glass of wine - sorry, couldn't help it! ) at WDW. I'm not sure if it is enforceable or if it even should be enforced, but it's beside the point because WDW has the right to do it.

 

[BuzznBelle'smom]

Well, it's early yet, and my sinuses are blocked, but am I the only person getting a whiff of troll?

 

[GeorgeG]

Maybe they use the "honor" system when they ban someone.

I agree that a second offense would trigger some computer file and would result in legal action of some sort.

 

[LanaJayne]

I agree with those that say if he was ever in another incident at WDW he would probably be charged with trespassing.

Has he paid restitution?