Disney Genie announcement

[Opie100]

You could also go to the parks at 2pm and maybe ride 3-5 tier 2 rides with minimal waits and ride a tier 1 ride at closing with a minimal wait and for free.

Why are so many people on this board inclined to believe the worst case scenario right off the bat, without any real world experience?

There are things we don't know, such as how many LPs we can actually get with Genie+ on a given day, or how expensive individual LPs will be. But what we know already is that: (a) we can't plan ahead; (b) we aren't guaranteed to avoid standby on favored attractions (as before), and (c) it will cost more. People may be willing to pay more for greater experiences, but unfortunately that's not the case here according to what's advertised.

 

[brightlined]

Where are the optimists? I haven’t seen them!

I'm pretty much right in the middle. I don't love this idea at face value, but I've been wrong enough before about a few "controversial" things at Disney that I really want to see how it plays out once it's active.

I thought MaxPass at DL was pretty great for what it was (with a couple of minor criticisms), and, with the exception of the LL attractions, it's pretty much that. (I hope they'll offer an AP add-on for G+ like they did at DL for MaxPass - which I think was $120/year before it was cancelled.)

My takeaway from this thread - I feel like the boon might be for people who don't take Disney trips as seriously and/or don't know the tricks. Like, if you were a noob and went to DHS with the intent of riding ROTR and missed out on both BG drops (if you even knew about them), maybe throwing $20 at it would be completely worth it to you and would be the thing that saved your trip.

I keep thinking about the number of times that I was in a park and had someone randomly ask me what FP+ was (at like 3pm). They figured it was a pay thing and missed out on half of their day. I always hated that people essentially paid for admission and missed out on a lot of stuff, simply because they didn't know. And this might (might) help with that.

 

[JakAHearts]

Im curious how the wait times till be shown and separated. Will there be just a standby wait time will the shorter line have a wait time too? If a ton of people are using the service, the times could be similiar, plus there are always times where the stand by and fast pass lines were near the same wait, typically at very slow times or during fireworks shows. I did once beat another group onto a ride through the standby while they used the FP lane.

 

[brightlined]

Where are the optimists? I haven’t seen them!

The kind of optimism that this board might enjoy:

Chapek has stepped in it enough times in the last year - if this whole thing dies sideways, seems like there's a decent chance he ends up in a Lightning Lane to the exits.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Why do so many people think you won’t be able to ride anything or have long lines or get no FP?

For us we usually only used our 3 FP+ and standby for everything else. We didn’t refresh much. We never waited more than 20 minutes for anything too. We rode everything we wanted with some things multiple times. And that was with everyone having access to FP. There will be some people who won’t use G+ which frees up some room.

 

[Skippyboo]

I'm pretty much right in the middle. I don't love this idea at face value, but I've been wrong enough before about a few "controversial" things at Disney that I really want to see how it plays out once it's active.

I thought MaxPass at DL was pretty great for what it was (with a couple of minor criticisms), and, with the exception of the LL attractions, it's pretty much that. (I hope they'll offer an AP add-on for G+ like they did at DL for MaxPass - which I think was $120/year before it was cancelled.)

My takeaway from this thread - I feel like the boon might be for people who don't take Disney trips as seriously and/or don't know the tricks. Like, if you were a noob and went to DHS with the intent of riding ROTR and missed out on both BG drops (if you even knew about them), maybe throwing $20 at it would be completely worth it to you and would be the thing that saved your trip.

I keep thinking about the number of times that I was in a park and had someone randomly ask me what FP+ was (at like 3pm). They figured it was a pay thing and missed out on half of their day. I always hated that people essentially paid for admission and missed out on a lot of stuff, simply because they didn't know. And this might (might) help with that.

Those people probably had their 25 snack credits on their last day to take solace in their lack of FP knowledge

 

[luv2cheer92]

boycott the app at all costs and send a clear message.

Umm no, but thanks.
You do know its part of the MDE app though right?

 

[TangledHairDon'tCare]

I'm pretty much right in the middle. I don't love this idea at face value, but I've been wrong enough before about a few "controversial" things at Disney that I really want to see how it plays out once it's active.

I thought MaxPass at DL was pretty great for what it was (with a couple of minor criticisms), and, with the exception of the LL attractions, it's pretty much that. (I hope they'll offer an AP add-on for G+ like they did at DL for MaxPass - which I think was $120/year before it was cancelled.)

My takeaway from this thread - I feel like the boon might be for people who don't take Disney trips as seriously and/or don't know the tricks. Like, if you were a noob and went to DHS with the intent of riding ROTR and missed out on both BG drops (if you even knew about them), maybe throwing $20 at it would be completely worth it to you and would be the thing that saved your trip.

I keep thinking about the number of times that I was in a park and had someone randomly ask me what FP+ was (at like 3pm). They figured it was a pay thing and missed out on half of their day. I always hated that people essentially paid for admission and missed out on a lot of stuff, simply because they didn't know. And this might (might) help with that.

I agree that this will help newbs a lot. I’ve definitely had people ask me about FPs and the app while standing in line at rides. One time somebody asked me how long the wait was outside CRT and I had to hold back a chuckle!

 

[RoseGold]

If it’s an AP upsell, which I think is a pretty obvious option, we will all be here praising genie and what a deal it was.

There’s a reason genie was announced before the new APs.

 

[tinkerhon]

Ok--- so my head is spinning over the last two days ! Just thankful that our next trip is not until December !!!

So, if I am understanding this correctly--- The Genie+ is $15 PP, Per day (not Tier one--)

The LL is for Tier 1 (cost to be determined) - you can purchase up to (2) -- both at 7AM?

If you just buy one LL, you can book two Genie+ Tier 2?

And if you purchase two LL (which I wont be doing) , you get 1 Genie + ?

OR.... can you get (3). Genie + ($15 PP, per day) and not do any LL?

Hope I didn't confuse everyone !! Sorry !!!

 

[Lsdolphin]

I don't think Safari will be a tier 1 up-charge. They need that Lightning Lane in heavy use to ease up traffic congestion.

Without the Fastpass queue running, the line for Kilimanjaro Safaris currently snakes through the park all the way back to Festival of the Lion King, and even into ugly backstage areas (you literally walk past, like, power transformers and loading docks). That's with a 45-minute queue, which Disney posts as a 75-minute wait to discourage guests from getting in line. Without using both physical queues, it's totally unmanageable, interfering with park operations and giving guests a bad show.

They need to put a lot of that crowd through the Lightning Lane queue to solve that crowd control problem, and the volume of guests who would pay $12/person won't make the difference they need.

Well I hope you’re correct....

 

[luv2cheer92]

Ok--- so my head is spinning over the last two days ! Just thankful that our next trip is not until December !!!

So, if I am understanding this correctly--- The Genie+ is $15 PP, Per day (not Tier one--)

The LL is for Tier 1 (cost to be determined) - you can purchase up to (2) -- both at 7AM?

If you just buy one LL, you can book two Genie+ Tier 2?

And if you purchase two LL (which I wont be doing) , you get 1 Genie + ?

OR.... can you get (3). Genie + ($15 PP, per day) and not do any LL?

Hope I didn't confuse everyone !! Sorry !!!

You can only get one Genie FP at 7am no matter what and its only one at a time. The upcharge ones have nothing to do with genie+.

 

[justdoip]

I wish RotR were just pay per ride. It would be an efficient way to reallocate the availability so that frequent guests would end up riding less often and guests who visit once every several years would have more opportunity to ride at least once.

I expect it will be pay per ride, for the most part. I think they'll probably allocate the big majority of the ride slots for the day to Genie+ pay per ride system and the remainder of the slots will be available to the virtual queue system they have now. Whatever the balance is that gives them the most revenue. I've seen some suggestions that the majority of slots will go to the virtual queue, but that seems highly unlikely. If they can charge extra for it, they definitely will.

 

[Turksmom]

Ok--- so my head is spinning over the last two days ! Just thankful that our next trip is not until December !!!

So, if I am understanding this correctly--- The Genie+ is $15 PP, Per day (not Tier one--)

The LL is for Tier 1 (cost to be determined) - you can purchase up to (2) -- both at 7AM?

If you just buy one LL, you can book two Genie+ Tier 2?

And if you purchase two LL (which I wont be doing) , you get 1 Genie + ?

OR.... can you get (3). Genie + ($15 PP, per day) and not do any LL?

Hope I didn't confuse everyone !! Sorry !!!

Lightning lane is the name for the former FP queue. The $15 pp/ per day allows unlimited lightning (fast) pass, but you can only hold one at a time. IAS (Individual Attraction Selections) are priced per ride for specific tier one rides- up to two per day. You do not have to purchase all of them

 

[Delilah1310]

Ok--- so my head is spinning over the last two days ! Just thankful that our next trip is not until December !!!

So, if I am understanding this correctly--- The Genie+ is $15 PP, Per day (not Tier one--)

The LL is for Tier 1 (cost to be determined) - you can purchase up to (2) -- both at 7AM?

If you just buy one LL, you can book two Genie+ Tier 2?

And if you purchase two LL (which I wont be doing) , you get 1 Genie + ?

OR.... can you get (3). Genie + ($15 PP, per day) and not do any LL?

Hope I didn't confuse everyone !! Sorry !!!

I don't think there is a limit on Genie+ ... if buy it for the day, you can use it all day ... maybe for 5 or 6 attractions, however you can work the system of getting one, riding it, getting another, riding that, on and on until the park closes.

It appears that the individual pay attractions are limited to 2 each day ... 1 that you can get as early as 7 am. But there seem to be lots of questions about if you can do the same ride for your second pay attraction, or if your second one can be at a different park.

 

[tinkerhon]

You can only get one Genie FP at 7am no matter what and its only one at a time. The upcharge ones have nothing to do with genie+.

Gotcha -- thanks !!

So, one G+ and (2) LL---- and then raid the condiment section in the CS restaurants, in order to feed the family !!! )

 

[tinkerhon]

I don't think there is a limit on Genie+ ... if buy it for the day, you can use it all day ... maybe for 5 or 6 attractions, however you can work the system of getting one, riding it, getting another, riding that, on and on until the park closes.

It appears that the individual pay attractions are limited to 2 each day ... 1 that you can get as early as 7 am. But there seem to be lots of questions about if you can do the same ride for your second pay attraction, or if your second one can be at a different park.

I thought with G+, ($15PP, Per Park day), you get max of (2). tier 2 ??

 

[pigletto]

Ok here’s a question….
If you are still able to try and get a boarding group for Rise of Resistance at 7am, do we think our chances of getting it are greatly reduced because so many spots will be reserved for people paying for it ?
And is still going to be essentially the same battle at 7am except some people are paying and some people are trying to get it for free ? I mean , they aren’t creating more capacity so it kind of stands to reason nothing is going to change as far as making it easier. Now we just fight to pay ?

 

[luv2cheer92]

I thought with G+, ($15PP, Per Park day), you get max of (2). tier 2 ??

Genie + is unlimited, the tier 1 is what is limited to two.

 

[burnurcomputer]

7 am is only for resort guests. Other guests will be able to pay and select at park opening.