Disney Genie announcement

[AnnaKristoff2013]

On twitter there is a HUGE line for RotR IAS. If i payed for IAS and than had to wait 45-2 hours to ride... I would be really mad.

Disney doesn’t care about guest satisfaction anymore. They got the money for those ILL$ purchases, they’re good.

 

[CWTC]

I think the OP was saying you could book another after 120 min, but you can't overlap windows. You had TT for 3:30-4:30. Would the app have allowed you to book another ride with a 4-5 window?

My bad then. Misunderstood the question.

 

[Lsyves]

What does IAS stand for?

 

[snikki]

Nvm. It’s been confirmed.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

What does IAS stand for?

Individual Attraction Selection. It was changed to ILL$ (Individual Lightning Lane Selection)

 

[HappyDisneyWife]

Summary of what I learned today!

Thank you SO MUCH!!! This is incredibly helpful (& should probably be made into a sticky! )

 

[wisblue]

Is anyone else having problems with park reservations disappearing from the app?

I was playing around with the free Genie part of the app to select favorite attractions for the 3 days of our trip in November for which everyone in our party of 4 has park reservations. All of the reservations show when I look at My Plans on the website.

On the app when I tried to select members of my party I got a message that nobody had a valid park reservation on those days.

Hopefully this is one of those things that will sort itself out as they do refreshes of the app and coordinate it with the reservation system.

 

[JakeAZ]

The first way is if you book a genie+ at 7am for more than 2 hours after park opening you can make another selection 2 hours after the park opens.

So, if my first LL is more than 2 hours after the park open, I have to wait 120 min from park open to book another one (ie if at 7:30am I make a LL for a ride at 11:30am, I can't book another one until 11:00am, if park opens at 9am)?

But, if my first LL is within 2 hours of the park opening, I can book another one 120 min later (ie 7am first one, 9am second one)?

 

[mshanson3121]

Summary of what I learned today!



120 minute rule

The 120 minute rule comes into play 2 different ways. The first way is if you book a genie+ at 7am for more than 2 hours after park opening you can make another selection 2 hours after the park opens.

The second way is once the park is open. Once the park has been open and you make a selection that is more than 2 hours away you can make another one in 2 hours.

Stacking

Stacking is confirmed possible and you can hold multiple Genie+ selections at a time. You can also hold virtual que, individual lightening lane and genie+ selections all at the same time.

Patterns from day 1


Hollywood studios saw rides run out of passes. Rise ran out of individual lightening lanes by 945 and slinky dog and smugglers ran out of genie+ early afternoon.

Magic kingdom saw jungle cruise run out of genie+. Individual lightening lane passes for SDMT and space have not run out. Most return times are right away/ next hour at this moment.

Epcot nothing had run out and return times are right away/next hour.

AK nothing had run out and return times are right away/next hour.

So if you make a GP+ at 7 am for 11 am, you won't be able to book another GP+ until 11 am. However, if I make a GP+ at 7 am for 10 am, I can make another GP+ as soon as I tap into the ride?

By stacking, I assume you mean I could have a ride for 2:25 but get another one for 4:45 even before I've gone on the 2:25 one..or what exactly is stacking and how does it work?

As far as availability... Basically there's a good chance that in busy season GP+ could be pretty useless, especially for people who take afternoon breaks.

 

[Jrb1979]

So, if my first LL is more than 2 hours after the park open, I have to wait 120 min from park open to book another one (ie if at 7:30am I make a LL for a ride at 11:30am, I can't book another one until 11:00am, if park opens at 9am)?

But, if my first LL is within 2 hours of the park opening, I can book another one 120 min later (ie 7am first one, 9am second one)?

It's 120 minutes from park opening regardless. If your first LL is before 11am you can book your next one once tapping in for your first one.

 

[katyringo]

So if you make a GP+ at 7 am for 11 am, you won't be able to book another GP+ until 11 am. However, if I make a GP+ at 7 am for 10 am, I can make another GP+ as soon as I tap into the ride?

By stacking, I assume you mean I could have a ride for 2:25 but get another one for 4:45 even before I've gone on the 2:25 one..or what exactly is stacking and how does it work?

As far as availability... Basically there's a good chance that in busy season GP+ could be pretty useless, especially for people who take afternoon breaks.

Correct and correct.

I don't think it will be useless I think you have to learn to use it to fit your touring style.

 

[Garyjames220]

Summary of what I learned today!


Buying genie +

You can purchase genie+ in two ways. You can buy it the day off after midnight or you can add it to your vacation package ticket. If you add it to your package you have to commit to it for every day you have a ticket.

120 minute rule

The 120 minute rule comes into play 2 different ways. The first way is if you book a genie+ at 7am for more than 2 hours after park opening you can make another selection 2 hours after the park opens.

The second way is once the park is open. Once the park has been open and you make a selection that is more than 2 hours away you can make another one in 2 hours.

7am rule for off site

If you are staying off site you can make Genie+ reservations at 7am BUT YOU CANNOT MAKE INDIVIDUAL LIGHTENING LANE SELECTIONS UNTIL PARK
OPENING. I believe this is park opening for the park you have a reservation.

7am rule for on site

If you are staying on site you can make BOTH an individual lightening lane selection and genie+ selection at 7am.

Refreshing

You can refresh the my tips page to try and get earlier or different times offered to you. However you CANNOT cancel or modify an individual lightening lane pass.

You can cancel a genie+ pass and book another one. You cannot modify an existing one.

Park hopping

The app recognizes your park hopper. You can book genie+ selections in other parks after 2pm. You can also make Individual lightening lane selections for other parks at 7am(onsite) or park opening (offsite).

Choosing a time

For genie+ you have to pick the time the app gives you.

For individual lightening lane the app will show a time BUT you can click on it and then will be able to choose from all available times.

You can buy both lightening lane selections at the same time.

Stacking

Stacking is confirmed possible and you can hold multiple Genie+ selections at a time. You can also hold virtual que, individual lightening lane and genie+ selections all at the same time.

Virtual que

Right now Remy is the only ride with the virtual que and the drop is at 7 and 1pm. You can use this along with individual lightening lane and genie+. You can use virtual que and individual lightening lane for the same ride.

Patterns from day 1


Hollywood studios saw rides run out of passes. Rise ran out of individual lightening lanes by 945 and slinky dog and smugglers ran out of genie+ early afternoon.

Magic kingdom saw jungle cruise run out of genie+. Individual lightening lane passes for SDMT and space have not run out. Most return times are right away/ next hour at this moment.

Epcot nothing had run out and return times are right away/next hour.

AK nothing had run out and return times are right away/next hour.


What happens if the ride is down

It seems when a ride is down a ride anytime pass is issued.

is the ride anytime pass if a ride is down for the same day only

 

[Jrb1979]

is the ride anytime pass if a ride is down for the same day only

I would assume so.

 

[JakeAZ]

It's 120 minutes from park opening regardless. If your first LL is before 11am you can book your next one once tapping in for your first one.

Wait, so if I book my first one for a ride at 10:45am and the park opens at 9am, I can't book again until I tap in at 10:45am? almost 4 hours after I booked my first one?

 

[katyringo]

Wait, so if I book my first one for a ride at 10:45am and the park opens at 9am, I can't book again until I tap in at 10:45am? almost 4 hours after I booked my first one?

Correct.

 

[MainMom]

Just wanted to update the TouringPlans (aka - The REAL Disney genie) expected wait times for some popular MK attractions

Thunder Mnt - 12 minutes
Buzz - 18 minutes
Jungle Cruise - 53 minutes
Peter Pan - 64 minutes
Pirates - 12 minutes
Mine Train - 43 minutes
Space - 22 minutes
Splash - 20 minutes
Haunted Mansion - 21 minutes
Pooh - 24 minutes
Speedway - 20 minutes
People Mover - 13 minutes

I would not buy genie+ for this. Even if I got 2 of these. The $15 to skip 2 20 minute lines…not worth it for me. So far HS is looking like the only park we might want Genie+ for.

 

[JakeAZ]

Correct.

So dumb

Restrictions were easier to swallow when things were "free"

Can't book 120 min after first section
Can't re-ride
Can't pick your time. I have to imagine this one will result in picking rides you don't necessarily want, but are close to, unless you want to criss cross the parks

But you can pay for these new restrictions.

 

[Dis Dragon]

Disregard.

Being able to pickup a second Genie+ at 9am should be a perk of staying on property imo. There's so little anymore.

 

[snikki]

This isn't how I heard it - if you book one at 7am, you can book your next at 9am regardless what time your first one is. Maybe I'm not understanding the question - but it's 120 minutes from your last booking NOT park opening.

It is 120 minutes from park opening. It’s been confirmed by multiple people.

 

[katyringo]

This isn't how I heard it - if you book one at 7am, you can book your next at 9am regardless what time your first one is. Maybe I'm not understanding the question - but it's 120 minutes from your last booking NOT park opening.

incorrect. For the first selection it's 2 hours after park opening. No stacking before park opens. Tested by bloggers in the park.