Disney Genie announcement

[pascalspal]

i'm hopping onto this thread so i hope i'm not repeating a question and apologize if it's been covered. How do you all think a strategy of park hopping can be used best for genie plus (not ias)? so if i'm doing epcot then mk for example. Also, for ias, i don't have to buy two attractions in one park on one given day if i'm park hopping, correct? so i can buy Rise and Remy in one day?

I want to confirm the same thing. We have morning plans for AK, but will be hopping to Epcot after 2:00. Hoping I can buy that individual attraction pass the morning of for a time after 2:00 pm. Hoping we can get clarification on that!

 

[cm8]

They never released the fine print for FPP. People just had to figure it out and report to others.
Same with this.

ETA: On the general subject. I wonder if the parks will be mostly standby for most rides most days, and Disney is OK with that. Think about it. If you wanted to design a FP-replacement system that didn't hose up the standby line, this would be it. By taking away the top two rides in each park, one-ride rule and no AP add-on, you limit who how many people will buy/have G+. Then the no-re-ride rule limits the impact on standby even if a bunch of people buy it. With the IA$$$, people aren't going to buy that more than once per ride per trip. I expect everything buy ROTR, Remy and FOP will be basically standby only. Of course, the argument against Disney wanting IA$$$ being unused is how they lowered the price of it at DLP.

?? Crazy question…. Do you have to purchase G+ to take advantage of LL?

 

[shawthorne44]

?? Crazy question…. Do you have to purchase G+ to take advantage of LL?

It is quite annoying how they named things. The Lightening Lane is the old Fast Pass queue, just renamed. To get access to the LL on the top two rides in each park, you have to pay per person per ride. This is called something like Individual Lightening Lane Selection. So, abbreviated ILLS, then you swap out the S for an $ to get ILL$$$. You do not need to purchase G+for this, and you select your times. With G+ you pay $15 for the day and you select from the next available times on the G+ rides.

 

[scrappinginontario]

?? Crazy question…. Do you have to purchase G+ to take advantage of LL?

No.

 

[cm8]

No.

Thank you so much!

 

[cm8]

It is quite annoying how they named things. The Lightening Lane is the old Fast Pass queue, just renamed. To get access to the LL on the top two rides in each park, you have to pay per person per ride. This is called something like Individual Lightening Lane Selection. So, abbreviated ILLS, then you swap out the S for an $ to get ILL$$$. You do not need to purchase G+for this, and you select your times. With G+ you pay $15 for the day and you select from the next available times on the G+ rides.

Thank you for the explanation!

 

[Disturbia]

That’s a good way to describe it… study think you know the answers and then totally forget everything you just studied…except it’s worse than Algebra …

That’s why we need a Genie- to keep things in balance (surprise you can ride whatever you want for the next hour…and we will pay you $15)

 

[Disturbia]

And you show up to the wrong classroom with no clothes on.

Or you fell asleep and woke up and the exam was over.. then you realized you were in the wrong class

 

[Disturbia]

We need more details on how Genie+ works. I still fear the first screen will be top 8 picks and then Genie+ will send some of us to Adventureland and others to Tomorrowland and then me towards Mad Tea Cups and Winnie the Pooh (I always get the short stick) and then towards wherever we have dining reservations. It certainly doesn’t let us tier our picks as far as we know. Maybe holding and ADR becomes a negative vs getting Genie+ to get us onto a walk up list. into the unknown…

 

[Jrb1979]

We need more details on how Genie+ works. I still fear the first screen will be top 8 picks and then Genie+ will send some of us to Adventureland and others to Tomorrowland and then me towards Mad Tea Cups and Winnie the Pooh (I always get the short stick) and then towards wherever we have dining reservations. It certainly doesn’t let us tier our picks as far as we know. Maybe holding and ADR becomes a negative vs getting Genie+ to get us onto a walk up list. into the unknown…

What you are describing is Genie that everyone gets for free. All Genie+ is, is FP on your phone. i think people are making it more confusing then it is. If you ever booked FP+ on your phone when at the park that's how Genie+ works. The only difference is you don't get to pick the return time, Disney does that for you.

 

[Disturbia]

This article has better screenshots

https://www.google.com/amp/s/orland...disney-genie-disney-world-planning-guide/amp/

 

[dawnball]

ETA: On the general subject. I wonder if the parks will be mostly standby for most rides most days, and Disney is OK with that. Think about it. If you wanted to design a FP-replacement system that didn't hose up the standby line, this would be it. By taking away the top two rides in each park, one-ride rule and no AP add-on, you limit who how many people will buy/have G+. Then the no-re-ride rule limits the impact on standby even if a bunch of people buy it. With the IA$$$, people aren't going to buy that more than once per ride per trip. I expect everything buy ROTR, Remy and FOP will be basically standby only. Of course, the argument against Disney wanting IA$$$ being unused is how they lowered the price of it at DLP.

I think that they want LL and IA$$$ to be very short waits and for LL return times to be soon. I'm reading a lot of focus on stacking and how quickly you can get your LL passes/IA$$$$$ every day. I think that Disney wants to sell it as a mid-day impulse buy that becomes a default purchase on return trips.

It's noon, the lines are all long, it's hot and crowded. Genie says "You can wait in line for an hour for Test Track, or you can ride in 5 minutes with LL." That really only works if the LL have relatively few people in them. That's the kind of thing people will just pay for, and IMO, that's where the value is.

 

[katyringo]

2 days to Genie Debut!!!!!!!!!

 

[elkkthunder]

Does anyone know when you can add Genie+ to an upcoming trip? Is it the 19th?

 

[scrappinginontario]

Does anyone know when you can add Genie+ to an upcoming trip? Is it the 19th?

Unfortunately we don't know. People are checking many times daily but so far it's not an option to add.

 

[thptrek]

I expect to wake up in BLT on the 19th and there it is and the chaos begins, lol.

 

[mickey916]

Best of luck!

 

[canyoncam]

Does anyone know when you can add Genie+ to an upcoming trip? Is it the 19th?

According to the TA webcast it is not available to add until the 19th

 

[Leight19]

I think that they want LL and IA$$$ to be very short waits and for LL return times to be soon. I'm reading a lot of focus on stacking and how quickly you can get your LL passes/IA$$$$$ every day. I think that Disney wants to sell it as a mid-day impulse buy that becomes a default purchase on return trips.

It's noon, the lines are all long, it's hot and crowded. Genie says "You can wait in line for an hour for Test Track, or you can ride in 5 minutes with LL." That really only works if the LL have relatively few people in them. That's the kind of thing people will just pay for, and IMO, that's where the value is.

I think I generally agree but would say I think they want window between rides to be further in the future. They want to keep us in parks so if you can bang out all rides back to back and go home they lose revenue. I expect it to continually remind us the 1hr wait can be skipped for $15 but once you buy next one is in 1.5 hrs. But now that you have all this free time hey look at this place to eat or check out this merch.

 

[dawnball]

I think I generally agree but would say I think they want window between rides to be further in the future. They want to keep us in parks so if you can bang out all rides back to back and go home they lose revenue. I expect it to continually remind us the 1hr wait can be skipped for $15 but once you buy next one is in 1.5 hrs. But now that you have all this free time hey look at this place to eat or check out this merch.

5 minutes might be too short, but some of those LL queues are long walks, plus you have the wait after merge. I'd anticipate another 5-10 minutes between entering LL and getting on the ride.

I wonder how long it would take to visit everything in DHS with LL, assuming a 5-10 minute wait for your LL return time, no wait before merge, but that the queue is full past merge, which Disney considers a 10 minute wait.

Some time on touring plans plus the Disney website says - 12 attractions, so that's 2 hours of waiting in the LL/lining up before the show. Plus 1-2 hours waiting for return times. An hour of walking time (from touring plans, assuming average walking speed) . About an hour of rides and 3 hours of shows.

That's 8-9 hours. You'll want lunch in there, and some stops for drinks/snacks, maybe dinner or some character greetings. That's a pretty full day to get your money's worth by using all the return times.

I really do think Disney is trying to create an experience worth purchasing. I don't think my touring style will be a good fit for Genie+, but it might make a lot of casual visitors less frustrated than they were by FP+.