Disney charges more for wine at the Grand Floridian then they do at other on property resorts.

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On our recent trip, we were at the Flying Fish having a glass of wine before dinner. I thought the wine I was drinking was good, so I tried to remember what it was, so when we returned home, I could hopefully find it. The FF charged $17 per glass. The next night at Citricos, I was looking at the wine menu before dinner and noticed that they had the exact same wine, though Citricos charged $21 per glass. $4 more per glass. Once you add tax and tip, probably closer to $5 more. My wife said she had remembered the same thing on a glass of wine she had ordered at Narcoossees, during our previous trip. Nothing like price gouging, because they can.
 

There is certainly a price difference in food/alcohol between the different levels of hotels - for instance, ice cream.... you pay less for a scoop of ice cream at POP than at Port Orleans Riverside and certainly less at POP than at a deluxe hotel. That is true for the lounges in the hotels as well --- yes, it is what it is.
 
Now if they were charging like $15 more a glass, that would be price gouging to me.
 
Prices vary for similar items all over property. You pay more for a Mickey bar in the parks vs the hotels. You pay more for a beer at a Deluxe vs. Value. It's not just wine.
 
I think Disney owns the restaurants at GF. I believe FF is operated by a third party.
 
Both are signature dining, would have thought they would be the same. I guess everything is pricier at the gf
 
Both are signature dining, would have thought they would be the same. I guess everything is pricier at the gf

Yes, but prices vary vastly between different signature dining locations.

I'm not surprised. Restaurants mark up bottles of wine across the board. My favorite wine is 18 outside of a restaurant- starts at 40 in a restaurant. It's not gouging, it's just profit.
 
Around here, you can pay more for any given item based on the rent a store pays.

Certain stores, e.g., Banana Republic, have higher prices at the "fancy" mall with the high-end restaurants than they do at the regular mall. The rent is one factor, but also the people who shop at the fancy mall aren't exactly bargain hunters.
 
Around here, you can pay more for any given item based on the rent a store pays.

Certain stores, e.g., Banana Republic, have higher prices at the "fancy" mall with the high-end restaurants than they do at the regular mall. The rent is one factor, but also the people who shop at the fancy mall aren't exactly bargain hunters.

I believe the GF and FF at the BW are Disney owned and operated. However, to your point, each of those are profit centers, accounting wise, and pricing for everything is set accordingly.
 
On our recent trip, we were at the Flying Fish having a glass of wine before dinner. [...] The FF charged $17 per glass. The next night at Citricos, I was looking at the wine menu before dinner and noticed that they had the exact same wine, though Citricos charged $21 per glass. $4 more per glass.

I don't have first hand account of either of these restaurants, but is it possible that Citricos provides a more generous pour? On one trip I made a point to take notice of these things and found that some places have a more generous standard pour. Among signature restaurants, pouring similar style wine, California Grill, and Boathouse had something close to a 6oz pour, While Yachtsman, Artist Point, and Fultons were very meagre probably less than 5oz. Fultons used smaller glassware. The others used stems that were probably identical but I wouldn't swear to that. But I've tested my estimation of volume (especially when spirit is concerned) and I would bet a mint of money that I'm within a quarter-ounce.

Depending on just how generous or stingy FFs pour is, a difference of even 1 oz between FF and Citricos will account for the extra $4. I would suspect that this is one of a slew of possible factors. There is an art and science in marketing and pricing, especially with wine. This is why I stick to cocktails. But some meals do call for a nice wine pairing.
 
On our recent trip, we were at the Flying Fish having a glass of wine before dinner. I thought the wine I was drinking was good, so I tried to remember what it was, so when we returned home, I could hopefully find it. The FF charged $17 per glass. The next night at Citricos, I was looking at the wine menu before dinner and noticed that they had the exact same wine, though Citricos charged $21 per glass. $4 more per glass. Once you add tax and tip, probably closer to $5 more. My wife said she had remembered the same thing on a glass of wine she had ordered at Narcoossees, during our previous trip. Nothing like price gouging, because they can.

It's not "price gouging". It's one of the first principles of economics which is "supply and demand". There is a demand so they supply it. If there weren't enough people that would buy it they would lower the price.

Stacy
 
I don't have first hand account of either of these restaurants, but is it possible that Citricos provides a more generous pour? On one trip I made a point to take notice of these things and found that some places have a more generous standard pour. Among signature restaurants, pouring similar style wine, California Grill, and Boathouse had something close to a 6oz pour, While Yachtsman, Artist Point, and Fultons were very meagre probably less than 5oz. Fultons used smaller glassware. The others used stems that were probably identical but I wouldn't swear to that. But I've tested my estimation of volume (especially when spirit is concerned) and I would bet a mint of money that I'm within a quarter-ounce.

Depending on just how generous or stingy FFs pour is, a difference of even 1 oz between FF and Citricos will account for the extra $4. I would suspect that this is one of a slew of possible factors. There is an art and science in marketing and pricing, especially with wine. This is why I stick to cocktails. But some meals do call for a nice wine pairing.

No. If you're getting a more generous pour, it's not restaurant standard, it's just sloppy bartenders.
 
There is no "restaurant standard" pour for wine. A standard pour takes into account the size of the glass, the %alcohol/volume of the particular wine (or style of wine), the strength of the wine (or style of wine) flavor, as well as the economy of pricing decided by a restaurant's management. Setting your standard pour for a particular wine (usually between 4 and 6oz is the difference between getting 6 to 4 glasses of wine from each bottle.

There is nothing "sloppy" about it. Between my wife and I, we had 6 glasses of red poured at California Grill with remarkable precision, and all of them a full ounce or better more than at Artist Point. I don't recall the pricing for each of the restaurants on this trip but if I had paid more for a glass at CG than I did at AP I would not have been surprised at all.

The only way to determine if a restaurant is "gouging" is to compare bottle prices.
 





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