Disney builds stone wall on lake where Alligator....

[jaye614]

Will that work?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/disney-b...-where-alligator-killed-143341728.html?ref=gs

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...gator-attack-boulder-wall-20160806-story.html

 

[King Schultz]

Sounds like it will prevent the type of accident like what what happened to the little boy. . .

But a determined gator or a determined human could get over or around it.

Not sure what else they can do.

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

Work against what?

Stopping alligators from coming on the beach? No.

Stopping people from going into the water? Only time will tell.

 

[Soldier's*Sweeties]

It's a pretty good deterrent. Only a really hungry/aggressive gator is going to climb that and only a really stupid person is going to disregard it.

 

[Squirlz]

Sounds like it will prevent the type of accident like what what happened to the little boy. . .

But a determined gator or a determined human could get over or around it.

Not sure what else they can do.

They could put up a sign that says NO CLIMBING. But of course that wouldn't stop anyone from scaling, ascending, rappeling, clambering...

 

[Magpie]

Work against what?

Stopping alligators from coming on the beach? No.

Stopping people from going into the water? Only time will tell.

It will stop parents with toddlers on a beach where they are holding movies to reasonably think that wading ankle deep in the water while holding their child's hand is a perfectly okay thing to do.

It will mean that anyone who scales the wall to leap into the water is doing so at their own risk.

It will blend in with the overall decor.

Most likely, people will choose to sit on the stone walls to look out over the lagoon. However, given that there's been one gator attack at that location in 25-some years of resort operation, including all the years that people swam and bathed at that spot, it's unlikely anyone sitting on the wall will be attacked by a hungry gator leaping out of the water. And even though we've all seen that clip of the gator climbing the fence, it's even more unlikely that gators will scale the wall to rampage through the Grand Floridian.

So, all in all, I think it will "work".

 

[Jennasis]

It's not a stone "wall". It's a pile of rocks.

It is only designed to keep people out of the water (and only a great fool would climb over the rope fence and rocks to get into that gross water).

 

[scrapquitler]

Will that work?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/disney-b...-where-alligator-killed-143341728.html?ref=gs

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...gator-attack-boulder-wall-20160806-story.html

It won't necessarily stop an alligator, but it will send a clear message to the humans that they should stay out of the water. Legally, Disney has to take 'reasonable precautions' and that's what this is.

 

[ronandannette]

Sounds like it will prevent the type of accident like what what happened to the little boy. . .

But a determined gator or a determined human could get over or around it.

Not sure what else they can do.

Nothing else they need to do - this is an excellent measure and it's light-years beyond that ridiculous sign saying "No swimming please". I don't think anybody, anywhere called for a completely idiot-proof barrier. Just something that actually sent a message that going in the water was prohibited. The sign there previously was such a gross under-reaction to the actual threat, it was negligent, IMO.

 

[JimMIA]

It's not a stone "wall". It's a pile of rocks.

It is only designed to keep people out of the water (and only a great fool would climb over the rope fence and rocks to get into that gross water).

Thanks for the picture; I was wondering what it looked like.

And when I catch my breath from all the laughing, I'll post what I think of it.

 

[minnie mum]

It's not a stone "wall". It's a pile of rocks.

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I agree. I'm not sure how a layer of rocks less than a foot high and 4-5 feet wide could be described as a wall. I think the reporter needs a new thesaurus. Breakwater is a closer descriptive.

I think it's overkill. There are numerous red and white signs warning people to stay out of the water, and warning of gators and snakes. Plus the fence. Anyone stupid enough to climb over the fence isn't likely to let a few rocks stop them. But it is another visual cue, so, whatever.

 

[JimMIA]

A similar tactic was tried at Everglades National Park a few years ago -- typically, not in response to an actual incident or threat, but in response to a illiterate letter to the Superintendent.

Much larger "boulders" were used -- actual boulders, in fact. The gators took it with good humor. They just walked over the silly rocks and laid in the path. Hey, it's where the sun is, okay?

Alligators have brains the size of walnuts. Humans have larger brains, but they shrink to pistachio size upon arrival at WDW. Electrified fences are the only way to stop both species -- but the stench would be awful.

 

[BigRed321]

Lets just drain the lakes and build parking lots... No more alligators... Then someone will get ran over by a car and they will outlaw cars on wdw property..

 

[Jennasis]

A similar tactic was tried at Everglades National Park a few years ago -- typically, not in response to an actual incident or threat, but in response to a illiterate letter to the Superintendent.

Much larger "boulders" were used -- actual boulders, in fact. The gators took it with good humor. They just walked over the silly rocks and laid in the path. Hey, it's where the sun is, okay?

Alligators have brains the size of walnuts. Humans have larger brains, but they shrink to pistachio size upon arrival at WDW. Electrified fences are the only way to stop both species -- but the stench would be awful.

Electric fences don't smell.

Oh...

OHHHHHHHH. I get it.

 

[JimMIA]

Electric fences don't smell.

Oh...

OHHHHHHHH. I get it.

Yeah, you have to leave them there to deter the others.

 

[mummabear]

It's not a stone "wall". It's a pile of rocks.

It is only designed to keep people out of the water (and only a great fool would climb over the rope fence and rocks to get into that gross water).

It's enough that it is no clear that no one should be paddling in the water.

 

[NotUrsula]

It's properly called riprap; an artificially-built rock shore. Gators actually like riprap; it gets nice and warm from the sun and they like to lie on it. (Rip-rap made of old broken concrete works better for deterring them because of the sharp edges, but that kind of rip-rap is something of an eyesore.) There is a definite downside to riprap near fresh water: snakes LOVE riprap; it makes the perfect warm hiding place.

I can also tell you that riprap attracts kids like candy; I have many photos of myself as a child climbing around on riprap. The mesh fences will need to stay up.

This story has a large photo of the riprap structure at the GF: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...ded-disney-world-beach-where-2-year-ol/nsBNb/

 

[lorimay]

When I saw the news this morning and they said a wall, I just couldn't imagine but this isnt too bad. If they keep that fence and the rocks it just kinda looks like a boardwalk type path. But someone said about the gators liking the warm rocks to lay on, that could be a sight to see that will freak people out.

 

[manning]

Lets just drain the lakes and build parking lots... No more alligators... Then someone will get ran over by a car and they will outlaw cars on wdw property..

But the ferry will have to stop operating. Will also eliminate the chance of drowning if you fall off.

 

[Disney Doll]

They did a good job of making something that fits in with a "beachy" theme and presents a barrier that most people will realize means "stay away from the water".

Frankly, if someone climbs over the ropy fence, over the jaggedy rocks and gets into the water, then if they get attacked by an alligator, they kind of deserve it at that point.