Disappointing Changes at BWV/Boardwalk area

[sjdisneywedding]

It's so close that it wouldn't bother me to do that, but it bothers some. I think these are folks whose modus operandi (which has never been mine) is to buy food, bring it to their pool chairs, and eat it there without leaving poolside at all.

Hence the whole point of POOLSIDE services.

Point of the post is at BW there is no longer an option for food purchases at the pool bar.

From this some have inferred this practice will possibly be applied to all the resorts.(actually some say its already going on)

AP at SSR was not intended to service the pool patrons and I even heard it was frowned upon. What does it matter that some might not mind going here for their food, in their bathing suits, with their kids, dripping wet, if its not allowed in the first place

I dont mind reserving my dvc room 3 years in advance -- doesnt mean its gonna happen

 

[fishermouse]

Hence the whole point of POOLSIDE services.

Point of the post is at BW there is no longer an option for food purchases at the pool bar.

IMG]AP at SSR was not intended to service the pool patrons and I even heard it was frowned upon. What does it matter that some might not mind going here for their food, in their bathing suits, with their kids, dripping wet, if its not allowed in the first place[/QUOTE]

Doubt if any Disney operation is going to turn down patrons (money). The Cm's that have to mop up may not like it but profit is profit. Would'nt hurt to dry off a little before going in. I do agree poolside is nice but if it's not profitable it's going to end. BW must not have had enough demand to make it worth while. Not that I like it any more than OP.
Doe's anyone know for sure if this is just a seasonal change, maybe in the times when the pool is busy they will sell food? Just wondering I'll be staynig there fior the first time in Jan. Just hope it's nice enough to use the pool.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

Doubt if any Disney operation is going to turn down patrons (money). The Cm's that have to mop up may not like it but profit is profit. Would'nt hurt to dry off a little before going in. I do agree poolside is nice but if it's not profitable it's going to end. BW must not have had enough demand to make it worth while. Not that I like it any more than OP.
Doe's anyone know for sure if this is just a seasonal change, maybe in the times when the pool is busy they will sell food? Just wondering I'll be staynig there fior the first time in Jan. Just hope it's nice enough to use the pool.

IMO it has nothing to do with how profitable or unprofitable it is, like I said earlier you cant take the whole thing apart and start to look at how this piece is this profitable, this other one is that profitable. It just doesnt work like that

 

[dumbo71]

They have reduced this service at other resorts as well. My wife and I used to love to go to the pool bar (can't remember it's name) at the Poly and have a burger for lunch after a morning at MK. We liked to take the boat and reminisce about our first WDW trip. When we tried that last June all we could get was a bag of chips.

Certainly not the same experience.

This post sums it up perfectly. "Not the same experience." That is the big gripe. The reductions hurt everyone whether you use the service or not.

Hey I'm not a big spa person maybe they should eliminate the spa at SSR? If they did, you WOULD NOT hear me posting "Oh well, I didn't use it anyway." ANY services that are being eliminated devalues DVC and the resort experience.

For anyone who has argued other wise, think about how you would feel if they elimnated something you used. How about the gym, spa, hot tubs, etc?
Start thinking before you reflexively defend DVC and WDW.

The waste thing is a joke by the way. I don't care if 50 hot dogs and 50 sandwiches were wasted every day (which they weren't). That costs peanuts from a food cost standpoint. Those bars generate more than enough in beverage AND food sales to offset the waste.

DVC is becoming more and more like a value resort....... well I take that back some of the food courts at the values are far better than what the DVC resorts offer .

Saying "I don't use it" is just ridiculous. I hope DVC never eliminates YOUR favorite service.

 

[LIFERBABE]

I agree, with not picking things apart. These are amenities and at this level of expense, are expected. Im not one of those "I paid for a nice room and a place to sleep" people.

I paid for a vacation experience and if the hot dog or burger costs extra, that is fine, but I do expect it.

Im sure the Community Halls dont generate alot of revenue either. They are an amenity that my family enjoys. Disney can Air condition all of outdoors, but we defend them because they have to throw away hot dogs at the end of the day All food service operations generate waste.

We do enjoy our lunch by the pool sometimes. Yes it is overpriced, but it is convenient and leisurely and that is what we enjoy. Other days we go back to the Villa to have lunch. It's about choices.

DVC is a vacation experience and we enjoy it immensely, but we also spend alot of money to have it and it is a huge part of our vacation budget. I expect the pools to be properly heated, and more than a bag of chips for lunch. I dont think this is too lofty considering what other resorts and timeshares offer.

I wont make excuses for short sighted, sorry management decisions, and I will complain when I am impacted.

 

[TDC Nala]

DVC is becoming more and more like a value resort....... well I take that back some of the food courts at the values are far better than what the DVC resorts offer .

Not willing to go that far. The rooms are still nicer. Although the All Star food courts have much more choice available than Goods to Go. I just to to the Gurgling Suitcase and order lunch from Olivia's.

My favorite service is the bus home from PI. I suppose if they eliminate that I will get worked up.

 

[Sammie]

I don't think Dining is its own reportable division. Resorts is. Theme Parks are. But I think Dining wraps up through its location (either resorts or theme parks). I could be mistaken.

You are mistaken, You have Resort Operations, Theme Park Operations and Food and Beverage operations that covers food and beverage for all of Disney World, parks, resorts, everything.

 

[Sammie]

But the old way, did not keep Disney booked year round./QUOTE]

Huh? What are you basing THAT on? Cutting service and food quality has somehow brought in more guests? Apart from the tourism drop after 9/11, the parks weren't exactly struggling.

I was referring to the DDP, it is keeping Disney booked during the nonbusy times of the year. Park attendance is not directly related to resort attendance.

 

[Sammie]

Sammie,

I can't disagree with this. I'm just wondering if you think this is a good thing?

Do I think it's a good thing, no I don't but then Jim Lewis did not ask my opinion, and lately I don't think he is listening to any of the members.

 

[jodifla]

Not willing to go that far. The rooms are still nicer. Although the All Star food courts have much more choice available than Goods to Go. I just to to the Gurgling Suitcase and order lunch from Olivia's.

My favorite service is the bus home from PI. I suppose if they eliminate that I will get worked up.

Can you still order lunch from Olivia's at the Gurgling Suitcase? I heard they stopped that.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

Do I think it's a good thing, no I don't but then Jim Lewis did not ask my opinion, and lately I don't think he is listening to any of the members.

oh so because Jim Lewis didnt ask for our opinion means we have no right to voice our pleasures/displeasures and likes/dislikes

whether Jim Lewis, or anyone else for that matter, asks for or listens to opinions should not be the reason we give them

 

[Sammie]

oh so because Jim Lewis didnt ask for our opinion means we have no right to voice our pleasures/displeasures and likes/dislikes

whether Jim Lewis, or anyone else for that matter, asks for or listens to opinions should not be the reason we give them

Oh please, this forum is getting to be as picky as the rest of the site. It was said tongue in cheek. I could care less if you send hundreds of complaints their way, I just don't think they are listening, but hey knock yourself out.

 

[dumbo71]

I could care less if you send hundreds of complaints their way, I just don't think they are listening, but hey knock yourself out.

And that IS the problem. They are NOT listening.

As for the post I took it as sarcastic not serious.

 

[dumbo71]

Can you still order lunch from Olivia's at the Gurgling Suitcase? I heard they stopped that.

No you cannot. You also cannot order to go food from Olivias any longer. Add ESPN to that list plus no food at BWV pool and you can see the trend.

 

[dumbo71]

Do I think it's a good thing, no I don't but then Jim Lewis did not ask my opinion, and lately I don't think he is listening to any of the members.

AHHHHHHHH !

Sammie really stirred me up with this stuff. She is far to bright a poster to not see how this stuff is concerning.

As for the Jim Lewis comment. ITA

 

[keishashadow]

Disney is about the bottom line, don't think they'd cut ANY profitable enterprise.

If it's really important to your overall resort experience, certainly email MS. I contacted them several times since early '05 lobbying for the DP for DVCers...it rather quickly became an option in '06.

 

[dumbo71]

Disney is about the bottom line, don't think they'd cut ANY profitable enterprise.

If it's really important to your overall resort experience, certainly email MS. I contacted them several times since early '05 lobbying for the DP for DVCers...it rather quickly became an option in '06.

Then maybe we should start another thread entitled" Keishashadow responsible for the proliferation of the DDP."

Lets see how popular that makes you.

edit: It is the old "be careful what you wish for." I tel people the same thing with these posts wanting SWA at their airport.

 

[fishermouse]

IMO it has nothing to do with how profitable or unprofitable it is, like I said earlier you cant take the whole thing apart and start to look at how this piece is this profitable, this other one is that profitable. It just doesnt work like that

Unfortunatly IMO it does work that way!
It's just a matter of sales if they are selling food and not making money they will raise prices, if they eliminate the food all together it indicates to me that sales are just not there.
Another possibility is they want to redirect the sales to another area, hotel guests either value or deluxe are spending money to go to the parks. Most will only spend 1/2 day to a day at the hotel, the hotel has to have everything so they'll stay on site. DVC'rs may go down for 5 days and only go to the parks a couple days, spending a lot of daytime hours at the pool. Disney is not making much money while we're laying around in the sun if you have to get up go out for lunch your likely to spend more, and without a car your spending it in Disney.
Either way it boils down to profit for Disney . But I'm not complaining because we have the option of running upstairs and making lunch in our suite , or taking a walk to the nearest food area . These options are not as appealing to families with children young enough to need constant supervision so we may start seeing families packing coolers down to the pool, just like the real boardwalk..

 

[Sammie]

Then maybe we should start another thread entitled" Keishashadow responsible for the proliferation of the DDP."

Lets see how popular that makes you.

edit: It is the old "be careful what you wish for." I tel people the same thing with these posts wanting SWA at their airport.

These types of comments are the ones that make we wonder, if I am on the DVC forums or did I wonder elsewhere. What does this have to do with the discussion of changes at the BW. If you are implying that Keishashadow likes the DDP and therefore that makes her unpopular, then add me to the list of DDP fans. I have nothing but good things to say about our experience and hope it stays.

I personally think that it is real easy in these discussion to think that specifics such as the change at Leaping Libations is a direct result of the dining plan and we truly do not know that.

 

[bobbiwoz]

...so we may start seeing families packing coolers down to the pool, just like the real boardwalk..

Haven't you seen lots and lots of people doing this at SAB? Food is available there, but still I've seen many many rolling coolers come in, and our stays at BCV are minimal.

Bobbi