focusondisney
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She retired 39 years ago
I retired 2 years ago. I’m talking about what happens now, not 39 years ago.
She retired 39 years ago
Yes, and the article I posted is from 2016 as hospitals try and find a way to dispose of supplies that have had their sterile seal broken, but are unused and can be repurposed. So now, not 39 years ago.I retired 2 years ago. I’m talking about what happens now, not 39 years ago.
Yes, and the article I posted is from 2016 as hospitals try and find a way to dispose of supplies that have had their sterile seal broken, but are unused and can be repurposed. So now, not 39 years ago.
And where in the article did it say anything about staff being allowed to take unused supplies home??? Like your mother did 39 years ago. What you think you know because of something your mother told you 39 years ago has no relevance to what is happening today. But of course, you know more than someone who has actual experience in the field.
I don’t think he’s advocating stealing in anyway. It’s glorified dumpster diving. Items that are destined for the trash and landfills can be usefully repurposed in some meaningful way.Yes, and the article I posted is from 2016 as hospitals try and find a way to dispose of supplies that have had their sterile seal broken, but are unused and can be repurposed. So now, not 39 years ago.
Umm I have multiple family members that were RNs for 40+ years, and they never took anything home from the hospital to use as household items! NONE!Wow, when my mom was around her friends from the hospital medical stuff was the primary topic of their conversation, no matter where they were. Nothing squeamish about it.
I have posted before, the first Christmas after my now wife and I got engaged, the first Christmas gift my soon to be wife got from her future mother in law was in a box mom brought home from work. The box said 'Mammary Implant". Mom's dish rags were surgical sponges..........basically white towels that had been opened but not used and would be thrown out, so she brought them home. She called them blood soppers. We still have some, when my mom passed 11 years ago my wife made a point of grabbing those because they do work great as dish towels.
When my mom had to tie up plants in her garden, she used IV tubing that had been opened but not used that she brought home. And I still have a cauterizer that had been opened but not used. She used to bring those home and we would break them open and take out the AA batteries inside to use. Never met a medical family that didn't do the same.
Maybe it depends on how proactive their loss prevention programs are/were.Umm I have multiple family members that were RNs for 40+ years, and they never took anything home from the hospital to use as household items! NONE!
No loss. Once the sterile seal is broken, the patient is billed for it. Open a 4 pack of surgical sponges, use one, 3 get thrown out, taken home, or as noted in the article I posted, sent to a company that sterilizes them again, repackages them, and resells them to the hospitals at a reduced price.Maybe it depends on how proactive their loss prevention programs are/were.
I'm all for creatively using things when they can no longer meet their intended purpose! So I'm definitely with the employees on this one.No loss. Once the sterile seal is broken, the patient is billed for it. Open a 4 pack of surgical sponges, use one, 3 get thrown out, taken home, or as noted in the article I posted, sent to a company that sterilizes them again, repackages them, and resells them to the hospitals at a reduced price.
Yeah it depends. I know workplaces that even if you take leftover food that's about to get thrown out, that's theft. I know of one person that got fired from it. It's sad because it's perfectly good food that's going to compost! Ugh! So wasteful!! I don't agree with it but that's their policyMaybe it depends on how proactive their loss prevention programs are/were.
I'm all for creatively using things when they can no longer meet their intended purpose! So I'm definitely with the employees on this one.
But I hate that the patients are charged for more than they need. - Why are they packed in fours instead of individually in the first place?
I'm trying to understand how "bad" the conversation could be. The patient is knocked out for the procedure (at least I & DW were), so can't talk about "feeling" anything. I guess the conversation could be about what was found (ulcers? diverticulitis?), maybe that's it?
My mom always felt a good nurse looked out for the patient's wallet as well as their health, and did not open packages unless it appeared they would be needed. The exception would be items that were required to be opened as part of a standard set up for a specific procedure, or at the request of the Surgeon. No idea whether things are packaged that way, as in 4 in a package for surgical sponges, or if that is what the hospital ordered instead of individual packs.I'm all for creatively using things when they can no longer meet their intended purpose! So I'm definitely with the employees on this one.
But I hate that the patients are charged for more than they need. - Why are they packed in fours instead of individually in the first place?
No loss. Once the sterile seal is broken, the patient is billed for it. Open a 4 pack of surgical sponges, use one, 3 get thrown out, taken home, or as noted in the article I posted, sent to a company that sterilizes them again, repackages them, and resells them to the hospitals at a reduced price.
How is it theft if it has been paid for, whether "a la carte" or as an included item for a procedure? Again, I am speaking ONLY of items whose sterile seal has been broken. This is not packages of usable supplies that are still sealed walking out the door. It is items that would go into the trash, probably as hazardous waste, which costs the hospital more to dispose of.One, that article references the hospitals repurposing supplies with a third party, not letting staff take it home. I work in a hospital and it would be considered theft.
Two, we don’t bill for individual items like sponges for a surgery. It’s just one charge for the procedure. The patient doesn’t get charged more if we have to add additional items to the sterile field. We fill out a charge sheet at discharge, for any additional procedures or monitoring; not individual items like sponges, syringes, etc.
I don't think the topic itself is inappropriate, although it is not one that I would bring up. I do feel that when a dining companion asks to change a subject it is good manners to do so. I am not getting hung up on the subject matter, because it seems that lately a lot of people have lost their ability to use their conversation edit button. I have asked someone multiple times to please stop the conversation, to the point that I physically turned away from them at the table. If you are asked to stop, unless there is a really good reason to continue, how hard is it to change the subject? The reason should never be because I am stuck on a thought that I just need to share and I dont care if you are not comfortable