Different UY add-on

[luvthedis]

I was looking to buy a small add-on, resale, with a different use year than my current two contracts (which share a UY). Can someone explain to me how this would all work?

Can I combine points from my different contracts with different UYs to make ressies? Or do I have to use the points from each contract separately, since they have different UYs?

Should I just try to wait for an add-on with my use year? Is is hard to keep track of two different UY?

I may be overthinking this thing, but I would rather be safe than sorry.

Thanks!

 

[robinb]

There are two issues with contracts with different use years. First of all, it's kinda a PITB to keep track to two different banking deadlines. Secondly, you can not combine points when making a reservation unless you transfer your points from one contract to the other. You are limited to only ONE of those transfers per year. Third, if you do want to make a reservation using both contracts without transferring points you can only book in whole days, for instance 3 days on one contract and 4 days on the other. You may "connect" the reservations so you don't need to checkout between stays. This may leave you with extra left-over points.

 

[luvthedis]

Wow...that opened up more questions...

If I transfer all of my points from my Feb UY add-on to my Oct UY other contract, then do all of the points become Oct points? Do they retain their original home resort....or change over (I would assume they retain or that would be a huge loop hole...)? And are they then bankable at the old UY deadline or the UY deadline from the contract they've been transferred into??

This sounds like it could be more trouble than it's worth..... Unless I can transfer all the points into one contract and just work with that...

 

[robinb]

The transferred points retain everything from the original resort.

 

[luvthedis]

Thanks, robinb! I appreciate the response and explanation. I'll have to give this some more thought. A good deal may just turn into a giant pain in the long run.

OT -- when did you meet Silvermist & Fawn? Everytime we've gone to Pixie Hollow we've met Iridessa and Rosetta-- and Silvermist is my DD's fave fairy.

 

[robinb]

Thanks, robinb! I appreciate the response and explanation. I'll have to give this some more thought. A good deal may just turn into a giant pain in the long run.

Yeah ... I did it for years and then sold my OKW contract to buy AKV from DVC. Of course, now I have other things to worry about like specifing which resort an automatic waitlist will pull points from.

OT -- when did you meet Silvermist & Fawn? Everytime we've gone to Pixie Hollow we've met Iridessa and Rosetta-- and Silvermist is my DD's fave fairy.

Silvermist is my DD favorite too! We met them in Disneyland on the second day Pixie Hollow was open back in October 2008.

 

[Dean]

I don't disagree with the above but there is another side. Having a different UY gives you the opportunity to choose which UY to use for a given trip and offers more protection if you have to change or cancel. Still, for a small add on, no way would I do a different UY.

 

[disneynutz]

Having 2 UY's is twice as much work and twice as much to keep track of. We have 2 UY's and as soon as the resale market improves, we will be selling our contracts to get rid of our least favorite UY.

 

[robinb]

I don't disagree with the above but there is another side. Having a different UY gives you the opportunity to choose which UY to use for a given trip and offers more protection if you have to change or cancel. Still, for a small add on, no way would I do a different UY.

Dean does have a point. One advantage of different UYs is being able to use and bank point efficiently if you take more than one vacation per year. For instance, if you normally go in May and November, April and September UYs would work well for you by banking and borrowing from each contract and using the April contract for the May trips and September contract for December trips.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I don't disagree with the above but there is another side. Having a different UY gives you the opportunity to choose which UY to use for a given trip and offers more protection if you have to change or cancel. Still, for a small add on, no way would I do a different UY.

Also a different UY with a different Master Contract lets you have more transfers....if you have multiple contracts under the same Master (and thus the same UY), you are still only allowed one transfer per Master Contract, not per contract.

 

[robinb]

Also a different UY with a different Master Contract lets you have more transfers....if you have multiple contracts under the same Master (and thus the same UY), you are still only allowed one transfer per Master Contract, not per contract.

Yes, but you only have ONE transfer in or out so if you have two contracts you are only limited to one transfer between them.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Yes, but you only have ONE transfer in or out so if you have two contracts you are only limited to one transfer between them.

Only if they are under the same Master contract. Otherwise two master contracts, two transfers.

 

[robinb]

Only if they are under the same Master contract. Otherwise two master contracts, two transfers.

Ummm ... I don't think so. I thought it was one transfer in OR out per master contract. I had two master contracts for years and still had them when they changed the transfer rules. I could only have one transfer to/from my Aug OWK and one transfer to/from my Sept BWV. I had friends transfer into my BWV once and I was unable to transfer any points in OR out of that contract the rest of the year including to or from my OKW contract. Of course, the rules may have changed again .

ETA: If you have two contracts you do have two transfers, but you use both of them up transferring between the contracts.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Ummm ... I don't think so. I thought it was one transfer in OR out per master contract. I had two master contracts for years and still had them when they changed the transfer rules. I could only have one transfer to/from my Aug OWK and one transfer to/from my Sept BWV. I had friends transfer into my BWV once and I was unable to transfer any points in OR out of that contract the rest of the year including to or from my OKW contract. Of course, the rules may have changed again .

ETA: If you have two contracts you do have two transfers, but you use both of them up transferring between the contracts.

Ha! I think we are saying the same thing....I just transferred pts. Monday. MS told me my June UY transfers were used up for this year (I have two contracts under this with the same Master Contract). But, my March UY (different Master Contract) was still eligible for a transfer, in or out.

 

[Dean]

Also a different UY with a different Master Contract lets you have more transfers....if you have multiple contracts under the same Master (and thus the same UY), you are still only allowed one transfer per Master Contract, not per contract.

Maybe, maybe not. They've changed the wording on the transfer limits to one per contract/one per member. You could interpret that to mean for each member on a contract or for a single member over all contracts. And if you have more than one member on more than one separate contract, how is that handled. I doubt DVC will try to limit it to per member over separate contracts though I do know they have a few times in the past early when it was changed back to one per.

 

[jamstew]

I'm confused about how a transfer works between contracts with the same UY. I have 150 BCV & 60 BLT, both Dec UY. If I transferred one to the other, does that mean I would have 210 combined points to use at either resort at 11 months?

 

[DVCGeek]

jamstew- the 11 month "home resort" window stays with the points. you can only use them at 7 months when combining contracts from different resorts.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I'm confused about how a transfer works between contracts with the same UY. I have 150 BCV & 60 BLT, both Dec UY. If I transferred one to the other, does that mean I would have 210 combined points to use at either resort at 11 months?

There are two ways to own these contracts....one and the most common way is to own both of these contracts with the same UY UNDER THE SAME MASTER CONTRACT. This mostly occurs when buying thru disney, or if buying resale to request this prior to closing. The other way to own these two contracts is to own each one (even though they have the same UY) under a DIFFERENT MASTER CONTRACT. This would most likely occur if you purchased resale and did not request that these two contracts be under the same MASTER contract. For the sake of discussion, lets assume that both your BCV and BLT are under the SAME MASTER CONTRACT. You do not transfer between them....each contracts points are used exclusively for that resort at 11 mos. or each contracts points are COMBINED AT 7 MONTHS. Hope this helps.....

 

[chalee94]

I'm confused about how a transfer works between contracts with the same UY. I have 150 BCV & 60 BLT, both Dec UY. If I transferred one to the other, does that mean I would have 210 combined points to use at either resort at 11 months?

no, in your case, transferring wouldn't do you any good.

transferring is necessary to combine pts from different master contracts (different use years) in order to book a single night's stay at 7 months (or 11 months if both contracts have the same home resort).

if both your contracts are under the same member number, then you wouldn't need to use a transfer to accomplish that. (and there's no way to "cheat" the 11 month home resort rule.)

 

[jamstew]

no, in your case, transferring wouldn't do you any good.

transferring is necessary to combine pts from different master contracts (different use years) in order to book a single night's stay at 7 months (or 11 months if both contracts have the same home resort).

if both your contracts are under the same member number, then you wouldn't need to use a transfer to accomplish that. (and there's no way to "cheat" the 11 month home resort rule.)

I think I understand. I also have 150 VWL points with a different UY and a different member number. To be sure I'm understanding this:

Scenario 1: I book S-F BCV (Dec. UY) at 11 months. At 7 months, I decide I want to add the weekend, but I don't have enough BCV points. I could then transfer enough VWL (Aug. UY) points into the BCV contract to make up the difference.

Scenario 2: Assuming BLT & BCV December are under one master contract, I could simply combine them to add the weekend nights at 7 months.

Is that right?

I bought my original BCV points (Dec. UY) resale. When I met with my guide week before last, we decided that Dec. would be best for my BLT add-on. Although she didn't specifically say that they would be under the same member number, she did make a comment to the effect that she didn't want me to end up with three accounts to deal with. I'm assuming it will be done that way, but maybe I should call her to be sure.