Different pizza styles?

SandraVB79

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Hey all,

I love all the food-threads that can be found on the DIS, as well on the CB as on the restaurant boards.
I do have a question though. I read often about Chicago-style pizza or NY-style pizza or... and I was wondering what the differences are?

For me, there are two styles of pizza: Italian and American, so introduce me to all the other differences!

Thanks

ETA: You can always provide pictures, nothing as great as food-pictures!
 
new york is thin while chicago is thick. A chicago pizza can weigh several pounds! The food network is always having shows about the differences.

I love them both, so I am not a good judge!
 
Here's NY style... all thin and big.

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And Chicago style, all thick and drippy.

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They're both good!
 
In NY pizza is food you can eat and on the go but in Chicago you have to sit down with a fork and a big napkin if you are me lol.

Chicago pizza is essentially a deep dish pie with the crust and then the cheese and toppings and then the sauce is on top. I like Chicago pizza when it has lots of toppings and not just mounds of cheese.
 

The one thing I know for sure is that people tend to prefer whatever kind of pizza (or anything) they grew up loving. With some exceptions, of course, if you're from Chicago, that pizza is great and if you're from New York, no other pizza can come close to true New York pizza.

Taking it a bit further, New York pizza is different from "New York" pizza. Once you get, say, 40 miles outside the NYC area it changes. I can't really explain it other than it's not the same. Again, it all depends on what you're used to.

When we moved to Florida we thought we'd never have decent pizza again. There are a lot of places that claim to have "New York style pizza," but other than the thickness of the crust, they are not, at least to someone from anywhere in or around NYC. We were lucky enough to find one place right near us that does live up to that claim, but the rest usually aren't even close on their best day. The same goes for deli claims.

I suppose it's a lot like a yankee transplant like me being compared to a true southerner. I may live down here for 30 years, but I'll never really be a "southerner."
 
Taking it a bit further, New York pizza is different from "New York" pizza. Once you get, say, 40 miles outside the NYC area it changes. I can't really explain it other than it's not the same. Again, it all depends on what you're used to.


That's definetly true!
We live on Long Island and still have trouble getting good pizza at times. :sad2:
 
Ny Style = Thin Crust and Chi = Pan Pizza. NY Pizza Dough, Sauce, Cheese and then Toppings. I believe true Pan Pizza is Dough, Cheese, then Sauce. Cook and then add toppings and cook some more. Then you have Scillian which is the Square Pie, Thicker Bread like Crust, Sauce, Cheese, and then toppings. I find that the water makes the difference in the crust. I guess in New York City with the water traveling down the 100 Year Old pipes from Upstate NY to the local Pizza parlor helps. On Long Island I think we get some good water from the aquafers (sp) that has aged well over the past century or so. The Best Round Pizza I have had was from Ray's in Brooklyn. The Best Scillian pie is from Umberto's in New Hyde Park, NY. I have had Pan Pizza in the Windy City and it was very good, I don't remember the name of the parlor
 
OK, I'm a thread killer when it comes to pizza, but I manage a national pizza trade magazine and trade show (both the country's oldest!), so I can weigh in here. What the others have said is right on the money for Chicago (usually deep-dish, like a pie with dual crusts) and NY (large slices, able to be folded, sometimes baked in a coal-fired oven, which are no longer allowed to be built -- if you visit a place that still uses it, it's be grandfathered in).

For Chicago-style 'za, you'll find Giordano's, Connie's, Pizzeria Uno and DUE and Gino's East among the most popular. In NYC, there's tons of good places (even the Sbarros seem to be better), but Long Island has awesome 'za. Some of the most esteemed places are now running on legend and history rather than good food. Totonno's, Lombardi's, John's, Patsy's L & B Spumoni Gardens are all classics. Expect long lines and lots of tourists. Hole-in-the-wall/ off beat places are often fun finds, too: Pinch–Pizza by the Inch, Slice (a vegan place), Sullivan Street Bakery.

We're seeing a big trend toward gourmet toppings/ sauces now (pesto sauce, sun-dried tomatoes, chicken, Asian influences, etc.), different cheeses (like Asiago, provolone, gorgonzola, etc. blended with traditional mozzarella). Most California-style pizzas fall into this category (think California Pizza Kitchen -- they started the Californian influence). California-style is often considered healthier (zpizza is becoming a big franchise to watch).

"Grandma pizza" and Sicilian-style thick crust are usually cut into squares. There's a big debate here in the office about the way 'za is cut -- our publisher, who hails from Long Island, gets irate if somebody cuts a round pizza into squares (which we do just to tick him off!.)

St. Louis lays claim to it's own style of pizza (although it's often discounted in the industry), which uses a special cheese called Provel instead of traditional mozzarella, and often lots of oregano with a sweeter sauce. It's often cut into squares, although the pizza is round. Imo's is a biggie in St. Louis.

Columbus, Ohio, is also garnering attention for it's pizza scene...

The winner of the 2006 Pizza Festiva! contest at the International Pizza Expo was Mama Mimi's Take-N-Bake, which was a big shocker since it wasn't a traditional sit-down pizzeria or delivery place. Really brought some validity to take-and-bake as a pizza option. For the record, I really like Papa Murphy's, although Tony Boombozz in Louisville (a two-time Festiva winner) and a little place called Mario's in Albuquerque, NM, of all places, are awesome, too.
 
For Chicago-style 'za, you'll find Giordano's, Connie's, Pizzeria Uno and DUE and Gino's East among the most popular.
We tried Connie's our first time in Chicago and it was OK, but the third trip we tried Gino's East and LOVED it! That was amazing! It took an hour for them to bake the pizza, but it was worth the wait. Fun atmosphere also. Neither of us were able to finish a full 2 slices of it. Really enjoyed the Chicago style because I'm not a big sauce fan so it was easy to just take it off without losing the cheese, which IMO is the best part! ;)

And see Gypsydoodlebug, you're not a thread killer anymore! ;)
 
you know, everyone always talks about NY and chicago pizza. I've had pizza all over, from chains to mom and pop places. hands down the best pizza I've ever had (including nyc) is from boston. santarpios in particular, in my mind, has yet to be beat. mmmm...so good.
 
I don't think we have any take and bake places around here. Are they just what they sound like?
 
When we moved to Florida we thought we'd never have descent pizza again. There are a lot of places that claim to have "New York style pizza," but other than the thickness of the crust, they are not, at least to someone from anywhere in or around NYC. We were lucky enough to find one place right near us that does live up to that claim, but the rest usually aren't even close on their best day. The same goes for deli claims.


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I lived in Raleigh, NC for 9 years. There were tons of pizza places around the city, but only 2 served true NY style pizza.:cloud9:
 
One more comment, and it's purely a personal preference, is that guys like me prefer their pizza (NY, of course) either plain cheese, or with sausage, pepperoni, or meatball. The other toppings are more gourmet or "girlie." Again, that's just my own preference.

I'm told that the decent pizza places down here use water filtration systems to make the difference. I don't know if that's true, but it's what I was told.

Now, if I can just find a decent deli where they know how to make a good sandwich and have it made by the time you get your wallet out. More often than not down here they make more of a gourmet sandwich that you have to wait 10 minutes for. But, they put pictures of New York all over the walls...
 
I don't think we have any take and bake places around here. Are they just what they sound like?

Think of it as the Subway of the pizza world -- you go in and place your order, they prepare it on unbaked dough, and then you take it home. You can wait a few hours (even days, depending on the dough formulation) and pop it in the oven when you're ready. What's the advantage? For one, a crisper crust ––*delivery pizza is placed hot in the oven, and the heat lets off steam, which is absorbed into the corrugated delivery boxes, causing a sauna-like effect. The result is a softer crust, which some people like. It is also ready in about 15-25 minutes (versus 35-1:15 for delivery). And you don't have to tip the driver.

Gourmet places like Mama Mimi's use quality ingredients along the lines of a dine-in pizzeria.

I like take-and-bake because I can pick it up on my way home from work, but I get home about an hour-and-a-half before DH. I can have it ready when he walks in the door, and we're done with dinner by 6:15.
 
Authentic Italian pizzas are thin and crispy and typically consist of tomato and mozerella (NOT cheddar) plus toppings; a few break the rule having no mozerella and a couple (Calzone) are folded and stuffed with toppings.

There have been many mutations, as so to speak. Deep pan (thick base), stuffed crust (stuffed usually with cheese), zero crust (exactly what it says on the tin) and so on.

Personally, I love a simple Quattro Formaggi :)



Rich::
 
Oh my I want some Pizza!!! Damn you carbs!!
My favorite pizza was a grandma's pie from this little local place on Long Island- it used to be in the Roosevelt Field mall then it moved onto stuart avenue- but for the life of me I can't remember what the name of the place is. But that square pizza- thin crusted though was incredible!! Oh and you could eat like 4 pieces easy... hence the low carb now.......;)
 
Authentic Italian pizzas are thin and crispy and typically consist of tomato and mozerella (NOT cheddar) plus toppings; a few break the rule having no mozerella and a couple (Calzone) are folded and stuffed with toppings.

That's a pizza margherita. VERY regulated throughout Italy. It uses tomato, sliced mozzarella, fresh basil and oil. Some opt for Buffalo mozz. I don't really care for it, but then I don't like sliced mozz.

Also pizza bianca is a white pizza. Traditionally, most use only oil as the sauce. Some break that rule and use Alfredo sauce or a pesto sauce.

Oh my I want some Pizza!!! Damn you carbs!!
You know it! I had two on-site photo shoots last week and our food stylist came in last Monday. My weight is up and down, up and down, up and down....
 


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