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[Cruelladeville]

I rent, I have lots of posts, I am a long-time member, and I support the DIS board with cash. Don't make blanket statements about those who rent their points--I purchased extra points to use in Chicago at the Whitehall or at Mackinac Island at the Grand Hotel, then I realized that cash was 1/2 the price, so now I rent the points and then use the cash for my stays in Chicago and Michigan.

 

[hoffmann2828]

So please don't think ill of us "newbies" that rent our points, we may just have other vacation plans that don't include DVC this year or next. It doesn't make us "bad". Cherish your family time and your Disney memories, only today is given. You never know about tomorrow.
Paula

I agree. I haven't had many posts, but have been reading this board for years. I don't travel to Disney without coming to this website for months prior. This is the first year that I am renting out my points and the ONLY reason I we decided to do it was to get some extra money for infertility treatments (my hubby's ins. wasn't covering what I hoped!). Well, we got our wish and I'm PG. I think we might rent out our points until our child is 3+ yrs. old. I think it is great that we have flexibility with the DVC and I am especially glad that people take the chance on us "honest newbies".

 

[robinb]

I agree. I haven't had many posts, but have been reading this board for years.

My point is that people with low posts counts who sell points are usually not part of the DIS. I'm afraid that you prove my point. At only 12 posts I do not consider you part of the DIS "community". Especially when the vast majority of them are hawking your points. By mostly lurking (and then only posting when you needed the money) you take and take and never give. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings. I hope that you will become a more active member here since the DIS is so much more than a clearing house for points. As a lurker you have gathered a lot of information. How about sharing some of your own?

FWIW, I do hope your treatments go well and you have the baby you hope for soon.

 

[hoffmann2828]

I guess I should have been more specific - I've been reading this site for years. I'm sorry that you feel that way about "lurkers". I feel that many people on this site post just to post, not because they truly have anything to add to the discussion. I get the feeling that many people who post as much as they do might be doing it on company time, etc. I don't come to the board every day - I come when I have a question and stay to read what is applicable to my life. I am happy to read many of the posts because I pick up things here and there. If I had something worthwhile to say, I would certainly post it. To say that I am using this board as a clearing house is pretty funny. Who cares? Is that not what this board was designed for? Trading/Renting points, etc.? I follow the rules and post when appropriate. I've done nothing I should feel ashamed for (as your post eludes to).

Today's "Lurkers" might just turn into tomorrow's "Repeat Posters". Everyone goes by their own schedule. You shouldn't make someone feel bad because they don't spend much of their time on this board posting. I have many "communities" I am involved in, so if you don't consider me part of the DIS Community, I'm sorry but I'll live.

 

[Fellowship9798]

My point is that people with low posts counts who sell points are usually not part of the DIS. I'm afraid that you prove my point. At only 12 posts I do not consider you part of the DIS "community". Especially when the vast majority of them are hawking your points. By mostly lurking (and then only posting when you needed the money) you take and take and never give. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings. I hope that you will become a more active member here since the DIS is so much more than a clearing house for points. As a lurker you have gathered a lot of information. How about sharing some of your own?

FWIW, I do hope your treatments go well and you have the baby you hope for soon.

I don't think you should need to have 1,000 or 2,000+ posts to be considered a participant, or valued, or any other classification. I've got a relatively low post count and a bunch of them recently are from renting points, but my other posts beyond those rental related ones (which are intentionally brief) usually have something to say (I hope). I've read the boards for some time as well and recently decided to become a bit more of a participant, but I don't think someone who builds hundreds or thousands of posts by typing "Welcome home!!!" every time someone announces they are a new member makes them more valuable than someone who has put up 5 or 10 reasonable and thoughtful questions or responses. A thousand "Welcome home", "BWV are my favorite too", or other "me too" type posts don't add much for me. Please note I'm not talking about anyone particular here, so please don't anyone get personally upset. I'm sure we all see it out there though.

Also, just for consideration, my trips to WDW are once every few years so I may not have any current or useful answers to offer on a regular basis for people here compared to DVC members visiting 2, 3, or more times a year.

Of course, this thread may be getting dangerously close to turning down a road of frequent posters vs. infrequent and all the ugly things that go with one group vs. another type threads. Let's keep it a friendly discussion before it goes there.

I should also add that there are many frequent posters out there that are invaluable contributors to the boards offering up loads of knowledge and patiently answering the same questions over and over about how points work, how to figure out a break even point, banking, borrowing, etc. I wouldn't want anyone to think I'm discounting the incredible effort they put in. But when they post, it always has something to say and a point of view to offer, not just a me too. That's the worthwhile type of posting!

(Just in case, I'll start putting on the flame proof underwear now.)

 

[Claudia Kellenberger]

I have rented points from people on this board 3 Decembers in a row. Now that you mention it - all three of them had very few posts. All three years these transactions have been wonderful. No problems !

I think that the people who have a lot of posts, are very emotionally involved with WDW. THOSE people are the kind of people who will definately use their vacation points, or if they cannot go that year, they will be terribly brokenhearted.

Other people may not be quite so fanatical as many of us are, and may want to vacation elsewhere.

One person that I rented from said that her sister was getting married that year, and was choosing some way-out resort place for the wedding and reception. They had decided to go to the wedding, and also have a vacation there at the same time. So they could not use their DVC points for that year.

 

[spiceycat]

I agreed with you Darren and Jenny - some people are make afraid to post here - because some people can be down right hostile.....

now it use to be worst.

but no one wants to feel like an idiot. (okay no comment.....just because I can't spell....)

this is a fun place most of the time. but when the old arguments my DVC resort is better than yours, or why do you buy there????

this is down right silly!

Every one is entitled to their opinions - if they don't agree with yours live with it - think how very boring the world would be if we all agreed.

I rent points - but I generally rent on redweek.com

some disers try to make you take down your price. I don't get those problems on redweek.

I only rented here when someone canceled on me in the last couple of months - (my own brother.....)

it is a great site for renting!!!

I have never considered using it to rent all my points. I guess maybe I should.

 

[Kick Save]

My point is that people with low posts counts who sell points are usually not part of the DIS. I'm afraid that you prove my point. At only 12 posts I do not consider you part of the DIS "community". Especially when the vast majority of them are hawking your points. By mostly lurking (and then only posting when you needed the money) you take and take and never give. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings. I hope that you will become a more active member here since the DIS is so much more than a clearing house for points. As a lurker you have gathered a lot of information. How about sharing some of your own?

Careful, robin, you're going to trample a few feelings. (But what should we expect from a Badger? )

I see your point, and at only a few posts myself, I don't really "feel" like part of the community here. I've lurked for a long time, and rented points here, but I haven't really joined in the discussion. (I've got 11,000 posts on a hockey board elsewhere, though...only so much time at work a guy can waste! ) From a trust standpoint, though, I'm just as trustworthy now as I will be in 50 or 100 more posts.

That said, I'm suddenly in the boat that somebody mentioned on the first page...I bought a contact with banked points that I won't be able to use in time. My plan is to rent them off, good chance I'll do so here. It's a good community, and sure I'll make some money, but I'll also be helping somebody else get to Disney at a reasonable price.

So, before blanketing everybody, there are a LOT of different situations that fit people. (And, expect more Badger shots Although, best of luck to Barry in his last game.)

EDIT: Forgot to add...on any good message board, lurkers outnumber posters by 5 or 6 to 1. (maybe more.) Lots more people read in the comfort of anonymity than post in relative anonymity.

 

[JimMIA]

I see your point, and at only a few posts myself, I don't really "feel" like part of the community here. I've lurked for a long time, and rented points here, but I haven't really joined in the discussion. (I've got 11,000 posts on a hockey board elsewhere, though...only so much time at work a guy can waste! ) From a trust standpoint, though, I'm just as trustworthy now as I will be in 50 or 100 more posts.

To me, a person with a ton of posts is no more trustworthy than a person with a few. But what I do think is helpful about numerous posts is that you can read the person's other posts and get some sense of the type of person they are.

In particular, you can get a sense of whether they know what they're doing...or not. IMHO, the potential risk in a renting transaction is much more related to inexperience and lack of knowledge of the system and where the risks lie (on both the renter and owner) than untrustworthiness. I don't think we have any crooks here.

IMHO, the raw number of posts alone are not that important, because as someone previously stated, many of the posts don't have much content: "Welcome Home!" "I TOTALLY agree!" "Good Luck" "Awesome!" etc.

 

[zoomsharedisney]

Sometimes quality is better than quantity.
Sometimes quantity is better than quality.

It just depends on who is making that decision.

I believe that everyone who posts is part of the Dis community. Each person came here for a reason...plain and simple - the reason is to discuss or read about any aspect of Disney. It doens't matter if the person has 1 post or 14, 000 posts. The point is that the person took the time to join us - here on the DisBoards.

Happy Holidays Everyone!!!!!!!
May you all have a healthy and happy holiday season!

Amanda

 

[Kick Save]

To me, a person with a ton of posts is no more trustworthy than a person with a few. But what I do think is helpful about numerous posts is that you can read the person's other posts and get some sense of the type of person they are.

Good point. My counter is that in a rental transaction you'll end up with emails and phone calls that will give you that same feel, especially the phone calls.

A point rental from a discussion forum is a huge leap of faith to begin with. Both sides are hanging out there for a while.

EDIT: In post 13, you said exactly this, Jim...sorry. I'll shut-up now.

 

[nezy]

I agree. I haven't had many posts, but have been reading this board for years. I don't travel to Disney without coming to this website for months prior. This is the first year that I am renting out my points and the ONLY reason I we decided to do it was to get some extra money for infertility treatments (my hubby's ins. wasn't covering what I hoped!). Well, we got our wish and I'm PG. I think we might rent out our points until our child is 3+ yrs. old. I think it is great that we have flexibility with the DVC and I am especially glad that people take the chance on us "honest newbies".

Congratulations to you and your husband!
Here's wishing pixixe dust, magic and Blessings from above on a woderful healthy PG!

 

[mic_key_mouse]

By mostly lurking (and then only posting when you needed the money) you take and take and never give. I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings.

I have been 'mostly' a lurker on the DVC boards for a while now. With statements like these do you REALLY expect people to think DVC is a warm community to actively take part in?

There are people on the Disboards with thousands of posts- but a lot of those people participate in the 'snake' threads and similar types of threads. There is absolutely nothing wrong with participating in those threads if that is how they enjoy spending time on the boards- people can do whatever they please. Does a large number of posts from folks that participate in this way reflect upon how much they 'give' to the community? A large number of posts doesn't mean a whole lot in many instances imo.

 

[robinb]

Does a large number of posts from folks that participate in this way reflect upon how much they 'give' to the community? A large number of posts doesn't mean a whole lot in many instances imo.

No, of course not. I never said a large number of posts made someone a member of the DIS community. I said that participation on the DIS make a person a member of the community. A lurker, by definition, does not participate: http://www.answers.com/topic/lurker-one-who-lurks . There is really nothing wrong with lurkers. In fact, it's considered polite to lurk first and get an idea of how a BB or newsgroup works before jumping in with both feet. I think it would be nice if frequent lurkers who take the information that is freely given here would participate give back to the community and share the knowledge that they have. It's a shame that we miss their perspective for one reason or another.

The original question was:

I noticed that MANY of the people renting had very few posts? Why is that?

and I stand by my original answer. The people on the rent/trade board with low post counts are not interested in participating in our community. They are interested in renting their points to someone to make some money or they are interested in getting a bargain. If they want to participate, I will welcome them in the same way I have welcomed many other new posters.

Now that I mention it ... hoffmann2828 & Kick Save ...

Welcome to the DIS!!!​

 

[Kick Save]

Now that I mention it ... hoffmann2828 & Kick Save ...

Welcome to the DIS!!!​

Hey, thanks!