Diabetic Food Choices

Andreak0428

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Hello!

We are gearing up for our trip in June and while I have made all of our dining reservations we recently discovered that my dad has diabetes. He is really committed to eating better because of it and I just wanted to ask you all if anyone knows of any good meals that are okay for diabetics. I would be willing to change restaurants if needed but so far we are going to

Cape May Cafe
Chefs De France
Mama Melrose's
1900 Park Fare
50s Prime Time
Crystal Palace Breakfast
Whispering Canyon Cafe Lunch
Liberty Tree Tavern
Grand Floridian Cafe

I would appreciate any knowledge available!!!
 
Without going through every item of all the menus, the name of the game is to minimize carbohydrates. It's tough to do in Disney because they adhere to "healthy" items like low fat milk and sugary fruits. If you choose a buffet, he can load up on safe foods, like meats and eggs for breakfast.

Cape May Cafe - has a carving station featuring Flank Steak and Roast Pork Loin, Sautéed Cabbage with Rainbow Chard and Bacon, Crab Legs, Steamed Clams, Mussels

Chefs de France - casserole of escargots, Plateau de fromages de France (but skip the walnut bread), Onion Soup, crab meat salad with shrimp cocktail on a bed of cucumber and tomato, The beef, chicken, or fish main entrees are okay but substitute potatoes or pasta with more veggies.

and so on... Got the hang of it?
 
Mr. Swift has excellent advice: carbs are the thing to watch out for. Not to the point of avoiding them entirely, but picking and choosing. Buffets are great because you can put the plate together yourself and control the portions. Of course, this also means limiting the number of trips to the buffet, but it also gives you a wide variety from which to choose, and lets you pick where you are going to put your carb allotment for the meal.

At most table service restaurants, you can swap out a vegetable for any starches on the plate to help minimize the carbs.

If your dad is on medication, keep in mind that he may be getting more exercise walking around WDW than he does at home (some people walk a mile a day in a park, some walk 8 miles -- a pedometer or GPS app can help quantify the exercise). You don't want his blood sugar to go too low.
 
I am a type two and I found the buffets as my best bet...But I do need a good carb breakfast ;) to start my day off...with plenty of protein too..but fast foods I just eat a smaller amount of the food...Like burgers ..I eat half of the bread...I ask for no fries and the price is different..
because I walk so much there...I sometimes run down on the sugars in my system...so make sure you always have a snack with you...like those pre packaged peanut butter crackers...I also drink loads of water...
AND sometimes I cheat...but my BS;s were very good while in Disney because of all the walking I did...
have fun and just take one meal at a time...and snacks in between..
 

I would make a note in your reservations so that they can have extra options available. The chef may come to talk to you about substitutions. Disney is great at modifying dining for special dieters. You can email special diets ahead of time as well with any concerns you have.
 
I would make a note in your reservations so that they can have extra options available. The chef may come to talk to you about substitutions. Disney is great at modifying dining for special dieters. You can email special diets ahead of time as well with any concerns you have.

You can do this, and Disney will try to accommodate you, but you will need to be VERY clear about what you actually need when you speak to the server. Most people--including chefs and servers--hear "diabetic" and just think "sugar-free." They'll offer you a "sugar-free" brownie as a dessert that will be less satisfying than a regular dessert and will likely have MORE carbs. They'll offer you a plate of fruit--which may have more carbs than a piece of key lime pie shared with a family member. They'll think nothing of the mashed potatoes and bread and rice that come with your meal. And it isn't their fault--it's that they don't really know what controlling diabetes entails. I don't note that I am diabetic on my ADRs for this reason, but I do speak up and ask very specifically for what I need, such as subbing out starchy sides for a low-carb green veggie. I've never had a problem.
 
A couple of PPs have made excellent points that are probably the most important things a newly diagnosed diabetic has to learn. One is that they have to control their CARBOHYDRATE intake, not just their sugar intake. Once they can wrap their brain around this concept, glucose control becomes so much easier (IMO). I don't think it's necessary to pick and choose restaurants based on which ones are most 'diabetic friendly'. It's knowing how to ask for menu modifications so that they are suitable for your dad. But as already mentioned, buffets do make it easier, since you can pick and choose for yourself.

Hopefully, before you leave, your dad will have had a few sessions with a diabetes nurse educator and/or a dietician to learn about diet, medication, and testing. If he doesn't yet have good control, he may find that the changes in activity level, heat, and diet will make him more labile than usual. He should always carry some kind of suitable snack in case his glucose level drops. And he may find that he needs to test more frequently than he does at home.

We have several diabetics in the family who have travelled to WDW with no problems at all. And have never put Diabetic notes on their ADRs. The restaurants have always been able to make any necessary alterations to the menu to meet their needs. And don't forget that when you are in the parks, if he develops any kind of problem, the nurses at the first aid centers are there to help.
 
You have been given some great suggestions I just wanted to add two things: beware of trick foods like corn and carrots as they count toward your carb count and aren't a free veggie like broccoli or green beans and also beware or sauces. They often hide carbs in use of flour or cornstarch or wine for flavor and thickening.
 
Can't stress enough the need to keep the meter with you at all times! Last trip, i ate a big lunch at Cosmic Ray's (BBQ chicken with sides and light lemonade). 90 minutes later I had a huge blood sugar crash! I couldn't believe it after that big lunch, but the combination of lots of walking and the extreme heat did me in. Thankfully DD had just bought herself a Dole whip....
 
minnie mum: You hit the nail on the head. I've found most doctors and dietitians are woefully misinformed about that fact. A couple slices of whole wheat bread can raise your insulin more than a can of soda, but since they view bread as healthy, they'll advise you to eat that and avoid the soda. (You should avoid both.) That's not to say fructose is a-okay. It's not, but it is less likely to kill you in the short term. (Long term is another story.)

I'm not a diabetic, but I've had great success losing weight on a ketogenic diet. A lot of friends who are diabetic are off insulin completely by cutting net carbs to under 50 a day. (I usually maintain around 20-30 a day myself.) Sadly, Disney is not the ideal place to practice that level of self-control. ;)

Before this thread spirals out of control in a carb debate, let me recommend the following book: "Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It" by Gary Taubes. Will change your life.
 
Hopefully he'll take some classes and have sessions with a nutritionist/dietician with expertise. Also, hopefully he'll see an endocrinologist rather than GP; GPs *can* be knowledgeable, but an endo is a specialist and will probably know more. (if we hadn't self-referred to an endo, if we had listened to the "you're fat, it's type 2, what do you need an endocrinologist for" GP, it would have been much much longer before we found DH's pituitary tumor)

While generalities are good, we have found that what works for one person doesn't *always* work for another. My MIL seems to follow a good diet, but she sits up in the 150s routinely, even while taking metformin. DH now has NO signs and symptoms of diabetes and his endo doesn't consider him to HAVE it anymore, and he took metformin for a week (the side effects were just too much and too embarrassing for him, and his blood sugar was already going down despite everyone, including the pharmacist and endo, telling him that metformin doesn't work that fast so it wasn't the metformin, so he dropped it and stuck with diet and exercise), with just dietary changes and moving more. Two people, two different ways of doing things. MIL thinks her diet is better than DH's simply because he's bigger than her, but in terms of blood sugar that hasn't proven to be true.

With DH, cinnamon is like a magic bullet. Discovered that by accident early on, and later found out that everyone knows about it already, LOL. For the first year I was putting cinnamon in everything I made. :)

By June, assuming this is a new diagnosis to him (from your wording I didn't know if YOU are just finding out about it, or if it's new to him, too), everything will be settling down. He might have the "afraid of food" response, and that should be settling down, too. He'll have started to learn what works *for him*. And if he feels brave enough to do Disney, then good for him. :)



Another part of discovering what works for him...watching what KINDS of sugars he eats. For DH, he can eat something truly homemade, from scratch, even chocolate cake, and it would bring his readings up *a bit*. If he had a soda with HFCS, even though there were fewer carbs than the cake? Forget about it. He was shooting sky high, flipping out, and crashing HARD. His flipping out while sky high involved starting random, nasty, arguments with me. One fabulous moment when he decided to have dessert and a Bailey's (when he barely drinks) involved me locking myself in the bathroom while on vacation at Universal because he would not stop picking at me. I did not want to engage, and let him know that he needed to eat some protein and check his blood sugar while zipping his mouth shut, and I locked the door and took a bath. When I came out he confessed that his sugars were scary-high, he had eaten a protein bar and had a bunch of water, and he wasn't going to say more. Whew.

For him, a Dole Whip would have been BAD. in fact, it was a Dole Whip that helped give me a clue (long before he actually had a high reading), because he and DS had them at Disneyland. DS went manic, running aorund in circles and not listening while being violent with me, and when I looked to DH for help, he had pretty much passed out on a bench. AWESOME. Dole Whips have corn syrup solids in them, and that moment was when I realized DS couldn't have those, either (along with corn syrup and HFCS), and DH shouldn't, either. After 5 years of avoiding that stuff, DS had some, and now his reaction is more like DH's. Fabulous. Something in their genetics!

So that goes along with finding out what works for HIS body. It's NOT one size fits all.
 
Thank you for all the helpful hints!!! I think I should have reworded my question. We are aware of how diabetes works and what he should avoid! I think what I was asking was does anyone know of any good meals out there that are okay for diabetics? Where he does not have to substitute. I just want to know up front in case I should be changing any ressies!

Thank you all for the helpful hints I did save them all and emailed them to my mom so she can implement them with my dad!
 
My mom is diabetic and we went to some of the places you mentioned when we went on an extended-family trip in 2011. She never even put diabetes on our ADRs because she manages her diet well, and never had a problem anywhere. One thing to possibly ask at Mama Melrose's is if they have whole wheat pasta, as it increases the fiber to help with the glycemic index values.
 
Thank you for all the helpful hints!!! I think I should have reworded my question. We are aware of how diabetes works and what he should avoid! I think what I was asking was does anyone know of any good meals out there that are okay for diabetics? Where he does not have to substitute. I just want to know up front in case I should be changing any ressies!

Thank you all for the helpful hints I did save them all and emailed them to my mom so she can implement them with my dad!

Unfortunately, it's hard to give specific meals because everyone's blood sugar control plan is different! It totally depends on the individual--how many carbs your dad eats per meal and what his "trigger foods" are. (As an example, oatmeal--which is supposedly full of fiber and a good "whole grain" choice--does crazy things to my blood sugar, even taking what should be the appropriate amount of insulin for the number of carbs in a serving. So I don't eat it at all anymore.) Disney loves to serve high-carb items as sides. In fact, this is the case at most restaurants. I would always ask for a substitute, but others might not. Sorry that's probably not very helpful, but it's just impossible to give a list of "good" dishes. But I will say I've always been able to find something to eat everywhere I've gone, and all restaurants have been great about making appropriate substitutes.
 
I just want to second what everyone is saying about having your meter nearby and testing more than normal. DS is in a wheelchair so it isn't even the walking that drops his sugars, his body views rides, especially ones that thrill him, as stress events/exercise and his sugars drop very quickly and without warning.

Also, as others have said, because each diabetes management plan varies so much, it's hard to say which meals were better but with us, we had awesome luck just asking for small portions of the starch offerings and bigger portions of the veg part of the meal. However frequent testing often meant us finding that DS's sugars were so much lower than normal that eating the starches was rarely a problem. He also frequently split deserts with one of us, just a few bites made him feel quite satisfied. Good luck and have a great trip! :banana:
 
OP - Not diabetic but we're carb watchers tend to eat "lean and green" and it was a little challenging but doable. Here are some things we found helpful that I hope will help you.

There are lots of sugars in the dressing on the cucumber salad that they serve as a side at Cosmic Rays, Sci Fi and Roaring Forks FYI and a few other places so it's a little misleading because it looks like it would be friendly.

Most table services can accommodate you with extra lower carb veggies in place of starches and will put sauces on the side.

We were very successful at ordering side orders of eggs and bacon at breakfast to get what we needed. I also found that if the CS has an oatmeal station you can get a side berries. I also found we were able to ask for and get water bottle substations or our desserts with QS meals since a dessert on the plan wasn't good for us. Sunshine Seasons was very easy to navigate.

Most of the TS locations were very accommodating as well. Just tell them how you need them to help. Many of them would allow us to substitute an after dinner coffee or tea for the dessert. Yak and Yeti gave us fruit cups to go and that was nice.

You can get a good complex carb treat in Liberty Square where they have sweet potatoes on the snack cart for a snack credit.

On your list we had a great time at Cape May Clambake as buffets are a breeze when you eat like us. The other buffets should work too! Le Chefs may be a tiny bit more challenging but it's doable. Mama Melrose was fantastic for us. I wanted just a bite or two of pasta so they grilled and filleted the chicken breast for me, served it with whole wheat pasta and put the sauce on the side so I could adjust it to my needs and the anti pasta platter was excellent. We also were on the F! package where they bring an assortment of desserts and we asked for all sugar free and they did it for us.

Hope some of that is helpful for you!
 
Being diabetic now for 15 plus years, I have found that everybody is different. I have been to dinner with family members that are also diabetic, we all have different reactions to the same foods. So take advice carefully. Bring your meter and check often.

Like what was posted earlier, with extra walking you will be able to eat more then you would normally.

What I have done on our last 3 trips is eat a larger breakfast, then check as the day goes on.

The weather has a lot of effect on how I'm effected. If it going hot, hummid and sunny that drops my number glucose numbers fast.

I carry hard candy and keep track of where there are quick service restruants to get a real (not diet) coke.

Have fun on your trip.

Howard
 
I have Type 2. I do not note that on any ADRs. I know best what I need to do. Well-meaning people will make assumptions that are not necessarily correct. The best balance is different for everyone based on what meds each may take, height/weight, progress of the disease, level of control, amount of exercise, dehydration, and so on. Each may react differently to any given food. Now is the time for the newly-diagnosed patient to do extra testing at home to learn how different foods affect his blood glucose and how to balance carb servings with protein and fat as recommended by his diabetes educator, nutritionist, and physician.

A lot of the sugar-free foods contain sugar alcohols, which can cause GI distress. A little may be okay, a lot can be disastrous. I stay away from sugar-free except for occasional diet soda.

My DH is a big eater, yet he and I are able to share meals at WDW. A whole Disney-size portion of most things is much too much for me now, even with the extra exercise.
 














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