DHS/Epcot Day Without G+ or ILL

[DisneyStarWisher]

Is this even possible without G+ or ILL??? Here is what we want to do (in order of importance):
MMRR
Remy
RotR
TSM
SDD
We also have a priority of walking around World Showcase at a leisurely pace and eating at the Food & Wine kiosks. (I sure wish they would get rid of the 2:00 PH restriction so we can do this for lunch! If not, we will do this at 2:00. We don't want to be at Epcot during the dinner hour due to crowds.) We are staying on-site so we plan to get to our first park for the early morning hours. We are thinking of getting an ADR at Shula's for dinner. We also must have a resort break at some point. Trip is late September.

So here is what I'm thinking:
Start at DHS--
1st: RotR
2nd: MMRR
3rd: TSM
If possible, hop to Epcot for lunch at 11:00. If not, take a resort break and hop to Epcot at 2:00.
Epcot:
1st: Eat lunch at Food & Wine
2nd: Remy (How long will standby line be by now???)

Dinner at Shula's? Not sure what time to make the reservation. If eating lunch at 11:00, probably ADR at 5:00. If lunch at 2:00, probably ADR at 7:00.

Hop into DHS for SDD at closing. If earlier ADR, then we may try to catch Fantasmic and then SDD.

Will this work? Does anyone have a better plan?

 

[DebLovesPooh]

You can’t hop before 2. So, as long as the rides are running, you can get those 3 done before hopping. I think Remy will be anywhere from 60-90 minutes at that time.

 

[DisneyStarWisher]

You can’t hop before 2. So, as long as the rides are running, you can get those 3 done before hopping. I think Remy will be anywhere from 60-90 minutes at that time.

Right. That's why I said I wish they would get rid of that rule. I'm still hoping they will before our trip. If hopping stays at 2:00, do you think I should do DHS or Epcot first?

 

[coasternut22]

Do HW first. Since you are a resort guest, plan to be at the tapstiles 1 hour before early entry. This means being at the hotel bus stop 1:15-1:30 before early entry. If you are at the tapstiles 45 minutes before early entry, you’ll still be good. Rope drop Rise, and hope it opens a few minutes before early entry. You be off Rise before the Non-resort guests are let in. Quickly make your way to MMRR. It should be about 10-15 minutes if you arrive before official park opening. Then get in Toy Story with a 20ish minute wait. You should be done with all of this by 1 hour after official park opening if you are at the front of the early entry pack. Absolutely don’t count on the 2pm park hopping restriction being lifted. With that said, if you plan on eating around the world and queuing Remy, you probably won’t be done with Epcot until 5pm ish. Shulas is going to be a big meal and you will have just eaten a lot. This is a tough decision that I wouldn’t make. Even if you have a 7pm reservation, you are cutting it really close to be back in HW by closing. No way would I rush that meal (so good). You are in a real pickle with Shulas opening at 5pm.

Lets look at this differentry, if you rope drop Remy, you will not even be able to really walk world showcase and eat until 11. Say you walk around and leave Epcot for your break at 1pm. You arrive at HW at 4 which leaves you Toy Story and MMRR with and hour and a half total wait. You leave for Swan….. I just can’t go any further. Doing F&W booths and Shulas the same day is making this plan almost impossible. I wish I could help you, but this one is difficult, even for me. You have too many restrictive competing things.

 

[DisneyStarWisher]

Do HW first. Since you are a resort guest, plan to be at the tapstiles 1 hour before early entry. This means being at the hotel bus stop 1:15-1:30 before early entry. If you are at the tapstiles 45 minutes before early entry, you’ll still be good. Rope drop Rise, and hope it opens a few minutes before early entry. You be off Rise before the Non-resort guests are let in. Quickly make your way to MMRR. It should be about 10-15 minutes if you arrive before official park opening. Then get in Toy Story with a 20ish minute wait. You should be done with all of this by 1 hour after official park opening if you are at the front of the early entry pack. Absolutely don’t count on the 2pm park hopping restriction being lifted. With that said, if you plan on eating around the world and queuing Remy, you probably won’t be done with Epcot until 5pm ish. Shulas is going to be a big meal and you will have just eaten a lot. This is a tough decision that I wouldn’t make. Even if you have a 7pm reservation, you are cutting it really close to be back in HW by closing. No way would I rush that meal (so good). You are in a real pickle with Shulas opening at 5pm.

Lets look at this differentry, if you rope drop Remy, you will not even be able to really walk world showcase and eat until 11. Say you walk around and leave Epcot for your break at 1pm. You arrive at HW at 4 which leaves you Toy Story and MMRR with and hour and a half total wait. You leave for Swan….. I just can’t go any further. Doing F&W booths and Shulas the same day is making this plan almost impossible. I wish I could help you, but this one is difficult, even for me. You have too many restrictive competing things.

It made sense to me to do DHS first. I'm glad to know that is the way to do it. I'm wondering if we should go ahead and do SDD while we are at DHS in the morning. Do it after RotR and then MMRR and then TSM. Do you think we will be done by 11:00 with a 9:00 opening? I realize we will be waiting in some lines. With Epcot opening at 2:00, that would give us a 3-hour break. Then we can do WS and Remy. That will also not rush us at Shula's. Shula's is one of our favorite restaurants on property, and this trip is meant to do our favorites since we are planning on taking a break from WDW after this trip. If we are done with DHS in the morning, we can even plan on Shula's around 8:00, and our plan is to split a steak and one side, so not too much food. We also plan to sleep in the next day, so a late dinner will be fine. There may be another night we can do Shula's. That hinges on whether or not we can get Ohana's, which might be impossible.

 

[loves to dive]

Yes, it's possible to do all those but you have to be flexible and be willing to wait in a 60 min. or more line at some point. Having hoppers helps. Are you trying to do all that in one day or spread it out? I was there in April and did those rides (and more) without Genie+ but it was spread over more than one day. Also you should be prepared for the fact that RoTR and Remy can and most likely will go down at some point and you need to have alternative plans.

What I did:
MMRR
Remy
RotR
TSM
SDD

I hopped to HS one afternoon around 5:30 or 6 and did MMR, TSM and SDD. The wait for MMR was posted 55, it got down to 45 when I actually got under the posted sign and actually was about 30 min. I then went to TSM and it was a 60 min. wait posted and was that. I then went to SDD. It was about 8 when I got in line, posted wait time 90 min, it was 60 min. (Tues)

The next morning was my HS reservation day. I did early entry but really got there about 5 min. after early entry actually started. I got in line for RoTR. Stood in line 55 min. and it went down. They made everyone leave the line so I rode ToT instead. That evening I hopped to Epcot to watch the FWs. Didn't have any plans so hopped in Remy line, it was posted 85 min. 60 min. into the line it went down and everyone had to leave. Yes, two lines in one day where I waited 60 min. and both went down. (Wens)

The next morning was my Epcot reservation day. Got into the park about 10 min. into early entry and went to Remy. Posted wait 55 min., it was about 30 min. That evening hopped over to HS around 8 pm and got in line for RoTR. It was posted 70 min, it was 30 min. wait and a small part of the ride was down but if you had never ridden the ride you wouldn't know it. (Thurs)

So, I rode all the rides you want to ride but spread out over 3 days. If you have hoppers and don't mind hopping around and waiting in lines, you can pretty much ride any of the rides you want. I will say, that was my 4th trip since the parks had reopened and I had the longest waits and the most rides go down. I stood in line for 60 min. for Frozen around 3 one afternoon (I don't like the movie, the song or even the ride but didn't really have anything else to do, it was Easter Sunday). The ride went down about 2 min. into it and we had be evacuated, it was a total of 2 hours from the time I got in line until I got off. I was on HM that same day (night) and it stopped 3 times, once for 10 min. and CMs were running through with flashlights (that was the night of the big storm). I got off JC the next morning and they shut it down right after I got off and weren't letting people even get in line. I was at AK Mon. evening (MK reservation morning) for the show and decided to ride Navi. Posted wait 60 min. stood in line about 50 min. and it went down. Rode it the next morning at early entry with a 5 min. wait. So be flexible and you should be o.k.

 

[DisneyStarWisher]

Yes, it's possible to do all those but you have to be flexible and be willing to wait in a 60 min. or more line at some point. Having hoppers helps. Are you trying to do all that in one day or spread it out? I was there in April and did those rides (and more) without Genie+ but it was spread over more than one day. Also you should be prepared for the fact that RoTR and Remy can and most likely will go down at some point and you need to have alternative plans.

What I did:
MMRR
Remy
RotR
TSM
SDD

I hopped to HS one afternoon around 5:30 or 6 and did MMR, TSM and SDD. The wait for MMR was posted 55, it got down to 45 when I actually got under the posted sign and actually was about 30 min. I then went to TSM and it was a 60 min. wait posted and was that. I then went to SDD. It was about 8 when I got in line, posted wait time 90 min, it was 60 min. (Tues)

The next morning was my HS reservation day. I did early entry but really got there about 5 min. after early entry actually started. I got in line for RoTR. Stood in line 55 min. and it went down. They made everyone leave the line so I rode ToT instead. That evening I hopped to Epcot to watch the FWs. Didn't have any plans so hopped in Remy line, it was posted 85 min. 60 min. into the line it went down and everyone had to leave. Yes, two lines in one day where I waited 60 min. and both went down. (Wens)

The next morning was my Epcot reservation day. Got into the park about 10 min. into early entry and went to Remy. Posted wait 55 min., it was about 30 min. That evening hopped over to HS around 8 pm and got in line for RoTR. It was posted 70 min, it was 30 min. wait and a small part of the ride was down but if you had never ridden the ride you wouldn't know it. (Thurs)

So, I rode all the rides you want to ride but spread out over 3 days. If you have hoppers and don't mind hopping around and waiting in lines, you can pretty much ride any of the rides you want. I will say, that was my 4th trip since the parks had reopened and I had the longest waits and the most rides go down. I stood in line for 60 min. for Frozen around 3 one afternoon (I don't like the movie, the song or even the ride but didn't really have anything else to do, it was Easter Sunday). The ride went down about 2 min. into it and we had be evacuated, it was a total of 2 hours from the time I got in line until I got off. I was on HM that same day (night) and it stopped 3 times, once for 10 min. and CMs were running through with flashlights (that was the night of the big storm). I got off JC the next morning and they shut it down right after I got off and weren't letting people even get in line. I was at AK Mon. evening (MK reservation morning) for the show and decided to ride Navi. Posted wait 60 min. stood in line about 50 min. and it went down. Rode it the next morning at early entry with a 5 min. wait. So be flexible and you should be o.k.

We are hoping to do those 5 rides in one day. We will have a 1-day PH. We've never done RotR, MMRR, or Remy, so those are must-dos. Your post about all the rides going down scares me quite a bit since we won't have another day to hop back into those parks.

I am wondering if we should maybe pay for an ILL for Remy since we will be hitting it later in the day.

 

[Mamiamjo]

Guardians of the Galaxy will be open in Epcot by then, any interest in that ride?

 

[DisneyStarWisher]

Guardians of the Galaxy will be open in Epcot by then, any interest in that ride?

Not at all. Probably too high-intensity for us. Plus we are not interested in the movie at all.

 

[loves to dive]

We are hoping to do those 5 rides in one day. We will have a 1-day PH. We've never done RotR, MMRR, or Remy, so those are must-dos. Your post about all the rides going down scares me quite a bit since we won't have another day to hop back into those parks.

I am wondering if we should maybe pay for an ILL for Remy since we will be hitting it later in the day.

I think I just hit the perfect storm that trip. That is the first time in over 35 years of going that I have had to be evacuated. I won't say that rides have never gone down, because they do. Rise and Remy are sort of famous for it. There is really no predicting it and no way around it if it happens. If Rise, MMRR and Remy are your only must dos, and fingers crossed they don't go down, they would be easy enough to do in one day without paying for them. If you do early entry for Rise, then go to MMRR, you can still knock out one or two of your rides in Toy Story before your 2 hop time. It really depends on your tolerance for standing in line. I've seen Rise have 2 hour waits but if you hit it early you should be o.k. I also think if you are willing to stay later at Epcot and willing to wait a while, you should be able to hit Remy.

 

[Disturbia]

In order to be in the first or second wave of the early morning 30 mins, which will likely be 8:00 am at HS, you need to get out of your resort by at least 7 am unless walking. There is no way you can hold off until 2 pm for lunch (unless you have a mini lunch- mobile order from say Woody’s lunchbox-order early; 2 hr mobile order waits). I would recommend ABC commissary for AC and lunch and then go back to your hotel around 1 pm. Break 2-4 pm (at least).

The line for ROTR is long in the am but doesn’t get low until near park close. With hopping I think evening at Epcot is better as you have the fireworks (unless Fantasmic is running and is a priority). The line for MMRR and SDD are in direct sunlight. Also, if a ride goes down during the extra morning hour there is no recovery pass given.

Be flexible and don’t be set on doing everything if something goes awry (ROTR broke down for 2 hours while we were in line with VQ). Checkout Topolinos for dinner (our preferred venue on HS day)

https://touringplans.com/hollywood-studios/attractions/rise-of-the-resistance/wait-times

 

[rpmaill]

Do HW first. Since you are a resort guest, plan to be at the tapstiles 1 hour before early entry. This means being at the hotel bus stop 1:15-1:30 before early entry. If you are at the tapstiles 45 minutes before early entry, you’ll still be good. Rope drop Rise, and hope it opens a few minutes before early entry. You be off Rise before the Non-resort guests are let in. Quickly make your way to MMRR. It should be about 10-15 minutes if you arrive before official park opening. Then get in Toy Story with a 20ish minute wait. You should be done with all of this by 1 hour after official park opening if you are at the front of the early entry pack. Absolutely don’t count on the 2pm park hopping restriction being lifted. With that said, if you plan on eating around the world and queuing Remy, you probably won’t be done with Epcot until 5pm ish. Shulas is going to be a big meal and you will have just eaten a lot. This is a tough decision that I wouldn’t make. Even if you have a 7pm reservation, you are cutting it really close to be back in HW by closing. No way would I rush that meal (so good). You are in a real pickle with Shulas opening at 5pm.

Lets look at this differentry, if you rope drop Remy, you will not even be able to really walk world showcase and eat until 11. Say you walk around and leave Epcot for your break at 1pm. You arrive at HW at 4 which leaves you Toy Story and MMRR with and hour and a half total wait. You leave for Swan….. I just can’t go any further. Doing F&W booths and Shulas the same day is making this plan almost impossible. I wish I could help you, but this one is difficult, even for me. You have too many restrictive competing things.

Sorry to piggyback but question. You say get on the hotel bus stop 1:30 before early entry. So if Magic Kingdom was reg 9, and early entry is 8:30, be at the stop by 7am so your on the 1st bus, correct?

 

[coasternut22]

Sorry to piggyback but question. You say get on the hotel bus stop 1:30 before early entry. So if Magic Kingdom was reg 9, and early entry is 8:30, be at the stop by 7am so your on the 1st bus, correct?

Correct. 1:15 should be fine. We had a Kidani bus waiting at 7:15am one time. We were able to be literally at the rope for mine train.