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[gottalovepluto]

I just checked Park Vue Inn on trip advisor and it's very highly rated with lots of good reviews. Curious. I know researcher-beware on all "rating" sites but the OP may want to consider posting a review there if they come back to the DIS and see this. It sounds like they had just an awful experience.

 

[lalasmama]

I just checked Park Vue Inn on trip advisor and it's very highly rated with lots of good reviews. Curious. I know researcher-beware on all "rating" sites but the OP may want to consider posting a review there if they come back to the DIS and see this. It sounds like they had just an awful experience.

It's a "nice" motel, for being a motel. It's not a 5-star hotel, but in our multiple stays there, we've never had a dirty room. Dingy carpet, yes. But not dirty. And it's all been updated in the last 5 years. While the OP compares it to a Motel 6, in my experience, it's much better than that! No, it's not a resort hotel. But, it's $200/night; it's half to a quarter of the price for a similar room at Grand Californian. I expect a higher quality experience when I'm paying $600 for a room at a resort than when I'm spending $200 on a room at Park Vue, and I expect a better experience at Park Vue than I do for a $69 room at Desert Inn and Suites, or Motel 6, or even Super 8.

The general reviews of Park Vue here on the DIS are usually pretty good, save for BlackJackDelta's bed bug incident 3 years ago.

 

[cindernat]

To be fair to those who responded early on, she did call the first person to respond a 'b!tch' and has since deleted that, which I think prompted some others to respond harshly.

 

[theluckyrabbit]

Exactly. When you've generously responded in good faith to help someone here who asked questions, then that person vents frustration (especially regarding a subject we hold dear to our hearts), that isn't going to elicit a positive response. It looks like spitting in the face of people who tried to help, even if that wasn't the true intention. That said, it does help lots when both sides show respect for each other.

 

[Malcon10t]

As for Park Vue Inn, that hotel isn't one of the good neighbor hotels. In order for a hotel to be a listed as a Good Neighbor Hotel, they are required to meet certain standards set by Disneyland.

I want to clarify this. The "requirement" to be a good neighbor hotel is to sell parkhoppers and to be willing to set aside a specific number of rooms for WDTC to sell, and be willing to accept them back unsold on short notice. (Most of the smaller, family owned motels in the area can't afford this.) There are NO requirements or awards based on the rooms themselves. Being a "Good Neighbor Hotel" is not an award.

 

[JadeDarkstar]

I don't know if it was mean enough to be called a b for it, how ever it was a little harsher than most here would do.
I do have to agree though if FW were so important she should have planed a little better. It wasn't a sper of the moment trip. I just think all of it could have been handled differently. I plan my trips around what I want to see and do.
That my only complaint about the op. But i wouldn't have been near as harsh

 

[agamble]

I just checked Park Vue Inn on trip advisor and it's very highly rated with lots of good reviews. Curious. I know researcher-beware on all "rating" sites but the OP may want to consider posting a review there if they come back to the DIS and see this. It sounds like they had just an awful experience.

No doubt this was some of the frustration. The hotel is very highly marked on trip advisor and spoken well of on every Disney forum. So it sounds like a great place. In reality it's a cheaper motel that is a good price for value in its location. It is far from a 5-Star hotel though. And the OP had only been to WDW. For $150-$200 a night (possible price of PVI) you could stay in a Disney owned property in WDW, or a nice resort outside the boundaries.

 

[SnowBelleAlice]

Sheesh, some of you are tender little lambs, the thread title, lack of return on the OP's part makes me wonder of the validity of the OP. We stayed at the PVI lat Wed-Sat, had a fantastic time, it was our first time there and we'd definitely return. GN means nothing, I've stayed in some tacky Good Neighbors.

 

[Corpsebride]

Well, that's the thing about keyboard bravado. People think they can say what ever they want , but when the reaction is returned in kind, everyone is shocked. I honestly don't know why anyone would expect the op to respond. If this happened to me and I had zero other interaction with this board, I wouldn't come back either. It's not about being sensitive. It's about being able to join a public forum without being verbally attacked. Some people aren't planners. People are allowed to be upset without being berated. That's the thing I love about the disboards. Is how helpful and understanding people are here. But, whatever. We will probably never know how it went.

 

[lvdis]

I just wonder if it wasn't her intention to cause somewhat of an uproar?

In another thread where someone asked how many days to spend at DLR and many people responded 3 - 5 days is idea; blondeoverbluenyc responded, and I quote, "*** would you do at DL for 5 days? You can do the whole park in a day much like WDW. 5 days and i would die.". Here is a link to the thread - http://disboards.com/threads/ive-never-been-to-disneyland.3395304/page-2#post-53367551, it is post #24.

I think that post was very inappropriate. Like I said, it seems she may be trying to stir the pot so to speak. Just my opinion... don't encourage the behavior by feeding into it.

 

[Corpsebride]

Well, regardless of the op intentions, the first responding comments were aggressive, regardless of her initial intention. All I know is that when I first read the responding comments, I couldn't believe what I was reading. None the less, I love the disboards. It's my happy place. And for the most part, people are lovely and amazing.

 

[DannyDisneyFreak]

I just wonder if it wasn't her intention to cause somewhat of an uproar?

In another thread where someone asked how many days to spend at DLR and many people responded 3 - 5 days is idea; blondeoverbluenyc responded, and I quote, "*** would you do at DL for 5 days? You can do the whole park in a day much like WDW. 5 days and i would die.". Here is a link to the thread - http://disboards.com/threads/ive-never-been-to-disneyland.3395304/page-2#post-53367551, it is post #24.

I think that post was very inappropriate. Like I said, it seems she may be trying to stir the pot so to speak. Just my opinion... don't encourage the behavior by feeding into it.

I think the initial reply to the OP was harsh and unwarranted, reading this along with her OP in this thread kind of backs up what I said in my first reply. Most of us on the DIS have such a passion for Disney and to be so close and not go because a couple rides are closed and no fireworks seems absurd. I've never been to DL yet and 3-5 is the MINIMUM time I would stay for my first vist. To say you would die spending 5 days in Disney says she is not in the average DISboarder category. With that said, everyone is different and not everyone comes here or should be expected to come to the DiS to über plan their trip. If someone comes to ask an occasional question people should show them the courtesy and respect that we would expect from a Disney CM. That's the "Disney service" that we all love (or loved) about Disney. How apalled would we be if someone asked a CM a silly question and they were berated and lectured on why they didn't plan their trip better and you deserve to have a miserable time because you didn't research. I'm not saying we need to coddle everyone or be unrealistic but why can't we show one another respect. Not just on the DIS but anywhere.

 

[Sherry E]

Okay, folks. There's no need to keep talking about the OP's intentions or comments or whatever, nor is there a need to talk about the initial responses made by other people who were put off by the thread title and subject. The OP hasn't come back after her first response, so we can let it go unless she wants to come back and talk more about her trip and how it went.

Honestly, I hadn't even been closely following this thread so I didn't see what was said in the beginning (some of which was deleted by other mods), but if something has been deleted then it was deleted for a reason and there is no need to rehash it and remind people of what was said. It just fuels the fire. People have been saying that they're happy that this is such a friendly, welcoming board -- it's a friendly place because we try to keep it that way, and part of what we have to do to keep it that way is to step in and put an end to conversations that seem to be going downhill. :

 

[blondeoverbluenyc]

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[Pucka1378]

I am surprised you felt that way at DL as before you got rid of your signature it said you had been to WDW 6 times and what you described seems pretty typical of any theme park really.

Glad you liked CA Adventure.

While I agree and disagree with your POV of princesses seems like you threw that in to stir the pot even more, so I will not comment more on that.

 

[707MickeyGirl]

It also made me sad to see all of the girls dressed as princesses. It's such an antifeminist POV to press upon young girls-get married to a man and live happily ever after. I'm glad they have Elsa now who isn't such a stereotype. I'd love to see some little girls dressed as Peter Pan or boy characters but Disney had pressed into there minds the opposite is how things should be.

This is interesting to me. I have been taking my 6-year-old granddaughter to Disneyland since she was 2 1/2 and we've been a total of 5 times now. She LOVES dressing up, and mostly wanted to wear princess dresses at first. I've suggested other costumes to her as we've wandered around the parks, and now, on our last trip, this was her wardrobe: Jessie from Toy Story, the Cheshire Cat, a pirate, Doc McStuffins, Boo from Monsters Inc., Lilo, Anna, and she also wore two regular dresses that were both just pretty and dressy. So only one princess this time - Anna. I think for the most part, the little girls themselves want to wear the princess costumes because they're pretty, not because of the stereotype they represent. Try telling a little girl in love with all things girly and frilly NOT to wear a princess dress at Disneyland. I couldn't do that to my granddaughter, no matter what the stereotype represents.

Oh and one more thing... on our first trip, when she was 2 1/2, I didn't know the little girls dressed up in the parks and when she saw their dresses, she wanted one. She had 4 or 5 at home so I was REALLY regretting not bringing one since I had to pay in-park prices to get her one! She wore that one dress over her clothes every day we were there, 5 days in a row, and I had to keep washing it out in the hotel sink every night! I never made that mistake again.

 

[coaches24]

Hi all-First off- Yes, I was a little put off by the first person very nasty comments telling me I didn't plan etc. A few things-we are from NYC with no kids. We are not Disney freaks or huge park fans, but wanted to experience DL one time while visiting Hollywood for the week. We only had one day to visit a park, and our options were spring break weekend, or the Monday after. We were flying home the next day. Knowing crowd levels would be insane, I chose Monday. When checking schedules ahead (Yes, I did this) I saw fireworks every day including Mondays for 2 weeks leading up to our trip, but the 20th said "schedule not yet available". I thought it might be something they would add last minute, since I am so used to WDW having fireworks every night. I didn't even know it was possibility that they didn't do this. I was really disappointed because for me fireworks are what makes a park day at the end of the night-it's really my favorite thing at Disney. For moral reasons we had no interest in seeing a fountain show during a severe drought. In addition Indiana Jones and Matterhorn were closed, two things not at WDW which reflected my idea to maybe skip it.

So that said, since we were stuck in this yucky hotel and not able to cancel the second night, so we decided to go for our one day park hopper. We walked on many popular rides done early in the day before the place got really crazy busy around 12:30. At that point we should have switched parks and gone to CA for a beer and lunch to relax, but we kept pounding the pavement at DL.
We both started to feel like we were in living hell with people smacking our ankles with strollers, heat and wait times building. We tried to have fun but were really miserable for that few hours. The fun of a 2 minute ride couldn't really make up for the awful theme park mess outside of them. We didn't see the magic-we saw zombie like park guests being herded by some very smart Disney execs who are laughing all the way to the bank when people buy $35 sandwiches and souvenirs. The brand synergy they have in every ride is amazing from a business perspective. Disney is a very passive experience because the majority of the day is waiting in lines.
We finally switched to CA after using our Splash fastpass-at that point even more grouchy because we got drenched to the point of looking like we had gone in a pool with our clothes on. lol

Our first ride was Screamin and we were on in less than 5 minutes. It was our favorite ride in any of the parks such a great coaster. We then got to do some more adult things that were more our speed. Had some wine while watching the Pixar parade and refreshed awhile. CA in general had more of a vibe that we liked. Better thrill rides, more chill,less kids etc. We did Tower, and Screamin 2x as well as the Cars racer ride which we loved. At that point they were closing the areas unless people had a fastpasses to see WOC so we headed back to DL.
Getting back to DL around 7:30 we were able to squeeze in Mr Toad and Big Thunder. After 10 minutes in line for Jungle Cruise they announced the ride was closing because the lights inside were off but the animals were working. So that was the only one we didn't make.
Overall, we had an ok day but see DL for what it is more than "magic" which is really a great marketing slogan -as people who work in the movie industry we see soundstages often so that stuff isn't impressive to us.
I think Disney is more significant to people who maybe went as kids and have lot's of nostalgia around it. Or for people who have kids, I can see how it can be a destination. It also made me sad to see all of the girls dressed as princesses. It's such an antifeminist POV to press upon young girls-get married to a man and live happily ever after. I'm glad they have Elsa now who isn't such a stereotype. I'd love to see some little girls dressed as Peter Pan or boy characters but Disney had pressed into there minds the opposite is how things should be.

We are glad we experience DL once for historical reasons but wouldn't make it a point to go back to any Disney Park for many many years.

Well you certainly are opinionated on DL and stuff. Thanks for sharing?

 

[kangamama]

wow. just, WOW! I was willing to give the OP the benefit of the doubt, after all, disappointment can manifest itself in ugly ways, but the follow up post? I'll just say I'm glad you were able to grudgingly salvage your day, and leave it at that.

 

[DizMe]

I enjoyed your report. I like that you speak your mind. I don't agree with a lot of it, but it's interesting to see other perspectives. It's very difficult to form an accurate impression of DL or any other place based on one quick trip, so do take into account that it is different every time you go. I didn't like WDW because it POURED on us all morning and then the sun came out and broiled us. However, I know that going in August is likely very different from going in November, so I didn't hold that against the resort. I also know people who have hated PVI, some who thought it was ok, and some who loved it. It doesn't necessarily make those who disliked it weaklings, as the major complaint I've heard is management's response (or lack thereof) when a problem arose. If you don't have a problem, you obviously have a much better chance of thinking the place is great.

As far as the princess thing, I get where you're coming from. As a feminist myself, I understand the anti-princess sentiment. However, I changed my perspective after I had kids!!! I have 4 girls and 1 boy. ALL kids love the chance to feel empowered and special. Boys have lots of role models that are geared to them; girls have not had that in the same way. It's not surprising that little girls enjoy the idea of being pretty and powerful. The reason magic and royalty and super powers are so popular with kids is because power is very appealing to those whose decisions are often made for them There just haven't been very many other avenues for girls. What would REALLY make me happy is if more women were involved in the creative processes of writing and designing the female characters. Most of those decisions are still made by men. Heck, most of the literature and movies were also done by males. The primary characters in the old cartoons and kids' books were predominantly male, so at least princesses give girls some representation.

 

[corinne76]

I'm glad you decided to go to the parks anyway, and I'm glad that some of it was enjoyable for you.

It's funny, we all deal with the same things in the park, but it really is about attitude and outlook. For me, I have no problem waiting in line (ok, well a min or less line) for a 2 minute ride. Maybe because I do have kids and it's all worth it to see the pure joy on their faces.

My DD did dress up as a princess. Like PP mentioned, it's not to perpetuate any gender stereotypes, it's genuinely because she was 5 and loved looking pretty. Princesses are pretty to little kids. They want to grow up and live in a beautiful castle. They aren't thinking that they want to grow up and be told what to do by a misogynistic man-child of a prince. Nope. they are much too young and naive to get that out of a Disney movie. As my daughter grows up, she will outgrow princesses completely. by the time she is old enough to think about relationships and how they work, being a princess should be long gone from her mind. And FWIW, she's not only into princesses. We're nose deep in Lego and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles too.