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[GRUMPY PIRATE]

If money is a problem (and when isn't it in this day and age?) Why don't you go to a Good Will or Amvets used clothing store and buy some good blouses/tops etc.?

you can get them REALLY cheap, and won't feel bad if they get dirty/ripped etc. Only wear them for work.

Heck, if you itemize your taxes, you may even be able to deduct the cost as a job requirement!

 

[luvmy3]

And again, the teacher should have referred her to the director whose job it would then be to tell the mother what exactly the preschool teacher's role is.

I would never whine about my child's clothing being dirty. I make the choice as to what she wears.
My middle child kept cutting his shirts, he's developmentally delayed and was putting the paper in his lap to use his scissors. That's not the teacher's fault, it's just something that happens. Those became rags and he got new shirts.

Maybe she did, I can't say what happened after I left. Regardless of what that teacher should have done, that mother should have never talked to her like that, and as far as I'm concerned that teacher would have every right to have a very strong opinion about someone like her and how she chooses to dress her child for school. While its great that you don't whine about your child's clothing, that doesn't mean that all pre-school moms are like you.

 

[HighClass]

My company has been opened for 25 years and recently got stricter rules about dress. All of us are supposed to wear a black shirt (or the company polo that is black with a logo on it).
I am always on the lookout for sales of black shirts.
It's the owner-or boss's company-they can make rules, you know!

 

[RobinFabulous]

Maybe she did, I can't say what happened after I left. Regardless of what that teacher should have done, that mother should have never talked to her like that, and as far as I'm concerned that teacher would have every right to have a very strong opinion about someone like her and how she chooses to dress her child for school. While its great that you don't whine about your child's clothing, that doesn't mean that all pre-school moms are like you.

But one would hope that in a healthy work environment that the teacher would have the right to say "I'm really sorry that you're disappointed in the way my classroom is run, but you're more than welcome to speak with my superior"

A teacher should not have to put up with that. Teacher are there to teach. Not babysit.

 

[luvmy3]

But one would hope that in a healthy work environment that the teacher would have the right to say "I'm really sorry that you're disappointed in the way my classroom is run, but you're more than welcome to speak with my superior"

A teacher should not have to put up with that. Teacher are there to teach. Not babysit.

ITA and for all I know she did but as I was walking into the classroom they were in the hallway and the mom was not letting her get a word in edge wise. There were also moms coming in and leaving with their kids so I'm not sure if the teacher at the time didn't want it to escalate so she just sat there while the mom said what she felt she needed to say. Maybe when she was done the teacher told her she needed to speak to the director if she had a probelm, I have no idea I wasn't sticking around to see

 

[disneyjunkie]

A teacher should not have to put up with that. Teacher are there to teach. Not babysit.

 

[disneyjunkie]

ITA and for all I know she did but as I was walking into the classroom they were in the hallway and the mom was not letting her get a word in edge wise. There were also moms coming in and leaving with their kids so I'm not sure if the teacher at the time didn't want it to escalate so she just sat there while the mom said what she felt she needed to say. Maybe when she was done the teacher told her she needed to speak to the director if she had a probelm, I have no idea I wasn't sticking around to see

That teacher is a saint.

I've been teaching for 17 years. There's no way I would have put up with that.

 

[OctMtnWoods]

If you are upset about not being able to wear a tshirt & having to have polished shoes, you would have really freaked had you worked at the bank I used to work at.

Dresses or skirts only.

If pants, it had to be a pant suit with matching jacket.

Nylons. At all times! And an extra with you incase you developed a run. A run in your nylons was unexactable.

No open toed shoes. Ever. No sneakers of course. Always dress shoes. And we were on our feet all day.

Only 1 piercing per ear. No other piercing allowed anywhere that it would show.

No visable tattoos.

No low cut or revealing clothes.

Men had their own set of rules that included long sleeve shirts, ties & jackets.

One of my tellers worked at another branch for a week to help out & was sent home for the top she had on. FYI - she was also a school teacher & used the same warddrobe for both jobs. She had worn that top to our branch before. We didn't have a problem with it. However, she was helping at the main office branch with all the big shots & it was deemed inappropriate for there.

The POINT: Acceptable warddrobe is determined by the boss, the one you are working for at the time.


Hey, could be worse. Disney has a heck of a dress code when it comes to tattoos, piercings & facial hair.

 

[sunnyday123]

I can't get past the fact that you asked what a t-shirt was.

You sound very angry about the job as a whole. Hope it doesn't transfer to the kids.

 

[C.Ann]

I am not a pre-school teacher but I can understand why the OP said this. Once when I picked up my ds from pre-school, one of the moms was very very upset because her dd got paint on a new dress. She was berating this teacher because she didn't make sure her kid stayed clean. I felt so bad for her because there really wasn't much she could do except stand there and take it. I wanted to get in that mom's face and ask her what the heck she was doing sending her dd in a dress that she didn't want to get ruined. Its one thing to dress your kids in nice clothes but its another to expect a 4 year old to wear something to place where they are going to paint, play with markers, shaving cream etc and not get anything on it, then blame the teacher for not doing her job Anyway, I can see where a pre-school teacher may have some problems with some mom's about clothing, I'm guessing the OP is one of them. I don't think she was passing judgement on how someone dresses their child, only how they react if gosh forbid those clothes get stained or ruined.

While the parent should not have treated the teacher as she did, I am more interested in the portion of your post that I bolded.. They do these same things in Kindergarten.. So do parents send their children to school in "play" clothes?? Even in pre-K, DGD's parents were told to either purchase a smock/apron or send in one of dad's old long sleeve shirts for these activities..

I think when it comes to Kindergarten, most parents send their children to school in "school" clothes - even though the same activities go on..

 

[flying_babyb]

I dont like my job, thats a well known fact, Neither do most of the other teachers. But I love the kids, I go to work everyday for them, they need me.

 

[Magic Mom]

I dont like my job, thats a well known fact, Neither do most of the other teachers. But I love the kids, I go to work everyday for them, they need me.

They don't need a teacher that doesn't like her job, and you don't need a job that you hate.
I would pull my preschool child from a class if the teacher disliked her job as much as you do.

 

[luvsJack]

Why would you even need to pass judgement on that? It's not really any of your busniess how people dress their children. I make a choice everyday as to what I put on my child. I've never said a word if she comes home with marker or finger paint on her, and I've never had anything not wash out with proper stain treatment.

You are an employee, and those are the rules of the workplace. If you don't like it, find another job. Maybe some of the parents have commented on the way the teachers are dressed. I like to know that Allie's preschool teacher looks presentable and not like she got dressed in the dark

Maybe you have never worked in child care??

I completely understand what the OP is saying.

We asked over and over and over that the kids be sent in play clothes. We painted, we played with clay, dirt, mud whatever, we went outside and we played in the sand. WE GOT DIRTY! I had a little girl one year that was dressed to a "t" every day. Really cute, every thing "matchy-matchy"; and the little girl was miserable. She cried when we painted and wouldn't play outside (just stood in the center of the playground), all because Mom thought it was more important to look nice than it was to be able to be a kid.


Also, I am assuming all parents want their child's child care/preschool program to be clean. In child care that means cleaning with bleach. Clean with bleach enough, you get bleached clothing. Very frustrating when you are having to dress to a dress code. We never allowed inappropriate dress by our employees, but we wanted them comfortable and ready to "get down and get dirty" so to speak. I told many a preschool teacher, "if you cannot sit down on the wet, dirty ground and play with the kids; you are overdressed".

We had "wet and wild days" every summer. The kids would play under the water hose, play with water guns and bubbles. There were times that I sat right down on the ground and shot the water guns and blew bubbles. The kids loved it and I got lots and lots of hugs!! (the greatest pay for any child care professional)


OP, maybe your employer is trying to avoid t-shirts with inappropriate ads or sayings on them? If there really is a misunderstanding, I would simply ask for clarification. And I agree with you that short skirts and dresses that "show it all" are a lot more inappropriate than most t-shirts.

 

[luvsJack]

While the parent should not have treated the teacher as she did, I am more interested in the portion of your post that I bolded.. They do these same things in Kindergarten.. So do parents send their children to school in "play" clothes?? Even in pre-K, DGD's parents were told to either purchase a smock/apron or send in one of dad's old long sleeve shirts for these activities..

I think when it comes to Kindergarten, most parents send their children to school in "school" clothes - even though the same activities go on..

School clothes can still be "ok" to get dirty. I have dressed three kids for school and for the first 3 years, they pretty much wore the same type of clothes that we considered "play clothes". If they got stained, they became "play clothes" for around the house and the unstained things remained as school clothes. Some parents dress their children in expensive things that stain easily--which is silly. Even telling their kids, "don't get dirty".

For preschool/child care, getting dirty is pretty much something they do all day, every day. We NEVER sat at desks that we weren't using some substance that might get on their clothes.

ETA: we asked for smocks and shirts too. I even went and bought men's L t-shirts to use for the kids. The still got things on their clothes.

 

[luvmy3]

While the parent should not have treated the teacher as she did, I am more interested in the portion of your post that I bolded.. They do these same things in Kindergarten.. So do parents send their children to school in "play" clothes?? Even in pre-K, DGD's parents were told to either purchase a smock/apron or send in one of dad's old long sleeve shirts for these activities..

I think when it comes to Kindergarten, most parents send their children to school in "school" clothes - even though the same activities go on..

As the mom of a recently graduated Kindergartener I can say that my ds's school clothes were not his play clothes and they were not his *nice* clothes that I didn't want to get stained or dirty. They were just regular clothes from Gap, ON or Target and if he happened to get paint or whatever on it, who cares. How am I suppopsed to know how other parents feel they should dress their kids for Kindergarten. That really has nothing to do with what I posted. My point was, its fine for a parent to send their kid to school in whatever they choose, whether its play clothes, regular school clothes or designer clothes. It is not okay to expect a teacher to make sure your child does not get anything on their clothes and then be angry if the kid happens to get paint or whatever on them. If a parent doesn't want their child to ruin a certain outfit then don't put it on them and send them to a place where there is a chance it may get dirty or stained.

 

[luvsJack]

I dont like my job, thats a well known fact, Neither do most of the other teachers. But I love the kids, I go to work everyday for them, they need me.

Flying_babyb, with all due respect; what is it you do not like about your job? I cannot imagine staying in child care and not liking it. Some jobs are just not meant for "staying for the paycheck" and this is one of them. These children are depending on you and depending on you to make their days happy. You cannot do that if you are unhappy.

One of the reasons I chose to get out of child care was that I began to think of it as a "chore" to go to work. It stopped being an adventure every day. I stopped wanting to learn more about child development and stopped striving to make our program better. At that point, I knew I needed to figure out if I should get out and that was the decision I made. We closed a fairly successful business, but we knew that it was the right thing to do because we felt that we couldn't really be there for the kids anymore.

 

[C.Ann]

My point was, its fine for a parent to send their kid to school in whatever they choose, whether its play clothes, regular school clothes or designer clothes. It is not okay to expect a teacher to make sure your child does not get anything on their clothes and then be angry if the kid happens to get paint or whatever on them. If a parent doesn't want their child to ruin a certain outfit then don't put it on them and send them to a place where there is a chance it may get dirty or stained.

And I agreed with that - didn't I? I believe I said the parent should not have treated the teacher in the manner that she did.. I'm not sure how you're getting that I "expect" the teacher to be responsible for their students clothing and whether it gets dirty, stained, or whatever.. Maybe you missed that part..

 

[luvmy3]

And I agreed with that - didn't I? I believe I said the parent should not have treated the teacher in the manner that she did.. I'm not sure how you're getting that I "expect" the teacher to be responsible for their students clothing and whether it gets dirty, stained, or whatever.. Maybe you missed that part..

I was answering the part of your post in red (changed by me) I assumed you were asking me directly.

While the parent should not have treated the teacher as she did, I am more interested in the portion of your post that I bolded.. They do these same things in Kindergarten.. So do parents send their children to school in "play" clothes?? Even in pre-K, DGD's parents were told to either purchase a smock/apron or send in one of dad's old long sleeve shirts for these activities..

I think when it comes to Kindergarten, most parents send their children to school in "school" clothes - even though the same activities go on..

 

[C.Ann]

I was answering the part of your post in red (changed by me) I assumed you were asking me directly.

Okay - gotcha.. Asked and answered..

 

[flying_babyb]

"fying_babyb, with all due respect; what is it you do not like about your job? I cannot imagine staying in child care and not liking it. Some jobs are just not meant for "staying for the paycheck" and this is one of them. These children are depending on you and depending on you to make their days happy. You cannot do that if you are unhappy."

The gossip and attuide of some of the other teachers. I work hard to keep my personal feelings out of the classroom. My children have fun and love being at school. One of the main problem teachers may be leaving for a job elsewere so it may change. I love the kids thats whats important.