Declawing Cats

Ted and Holly

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I don't want to start a debate here, but do any of you have experience with declawed cats? Would you recommend it or not? Did I hear there is a new way with lasers???

Some apts we are looking at for our move to Orlando requires cats to be declawed.... it got us thinking about it.... Previously, I've been very much against it, but shredded furniture and now apt. requirements are making me think twice....

Holly
 
Both of my cats are declawed. I wasn't going to do it with my last cat (my other one is 9 years old and I had no choice in getting her declawed or not) but she was so terrible with letting is trim her claws. I mean it was impossible!!! (and this was with me or DH trying to hold and the other trying to clip... did NOT work!!!) So instead of worrying about her hurting herself with split claws or too sharp of a claw (or hurting our other cat accidentally) we talked to the vet (this was about 2 years ago too) and we decided that declawing was the best for all of us. They procedure is done better than it used to be and the pain meds out there are so much better than before. Granted we always declaw while fixing at the same time so they will need to be "put under" anyway.

Psychologically I cannot see at all how it harms cats. I have had cats with and with out claws and truthfully none of them act any differently. Even my SIL has watched our cats and decided that she will most likely declaw her next cats.

Obviously what I do is not popular with everyone and truthfully it doesn't bother me. I see the advantages to both, but for now I will keep declawing and trusting my vet.

Oh and my cousins had their cat declawed with lasers It was apaprently really easy on the cat but very $$$$$.
 
I don't judge others on this issue, but we chose to NOT have our Siamese kitten declawed when we got him a year and a half ago, and we are happy with our decision. We have found out that its quite easy to clip the cat's nails every few weeks, it's worked great, and now our cat, Mushu, is used to it and sits still. DH holds him while I clip his nails. :)
 
It's one of those things you hate to have your pet go through, but we had our indoor cat's front ones done, and she made out just fine.
I'm not sure of how the Vet. removed the nails, but I do remember that he used a type of glue rather than stitches for the wounds. It's been 6 years or so since she was done.
 

Originally posted by SeaSpray
I don't judge others on this issue, but we chose to NOT have our Siamese kitten declawed when we got him a year and
a half ago, and we are happy with our decision. We have found out that its quite easy to clip the cat's nails every
few weeks, it's worked great, and now our cat, Mushu, is used to it and sits still. DH holds him while I clip
his nails. :)

We chose not to declaw any of our four cats. However, some of the places we are considering moving to require it. While there are other places to live, we will have ALL new furniture. The cats have never, and doubtfully will ever be outdoor cats.

Trimming is fine for a couple of them, but the other two would result in a trip to the ER... for us!

Ted
 
I'm a technician at an animal hospital. I see this surgery fairly often, I do think its a gruesome surgery BUT I believe the discomfort the cat will be in a for a week or even two, compared to a LIFETIME of being an indoor cat without the threat of being put outside for scratching the kids or tearing up furniture, with the outdoor threats such as being brutally killed by a dog, hit by a car etc is mininal. And this does happen. Now I wouldn't just declaw without reason, but if the cat or landlord gives reason then...declaw. of course this is JMHO!! My personal cats aren't delcawed because they haven't given me a reason to have too.
I do know exactly what goes into a declaw so if anyone needs details you can email me or private message me either one
BTW my boss dislikes doing declaws but does so for the cats future, also we don't do ear crops at our clinic for the same reason. We also carry the softpaws for those who wish to try that first.
marcusplus4@charter.net
 
I know that my answer is not going to be popular with some people that answer this thread. I've had 2 happy, healthy cats.

Even with ample scratching posts our first cat, Annie, was a shredder. I think she resented the fact that I worked and left her home alone during the day. She went wild when we tried to lock her up for the day. It was fix the claws or find her another home. I never want to go there again. Our pets are part of the family and I didn't want to give her up.

We decided to have her declawed. We did only the front feet so that she could still climb and have her back feet as defense. I could never see that it bothered her much. We have a good vet and followed post op directions carefully. She never even acted like the feet were sore.

When Cricket came into our lives after we lost Annie at about 13, we had him declawed as well. It was something we considered carefully, but we decided that it was the right choice for us.

I know some people think it isn't humane, and I know it is like removing the last section of their toes. That sounds terrible. Still, I have lived with these cats. I don't think either of my cats reacted negatively. I'm not even sure that they know that anything is missing. Cricket still sharpens his "claws" frequently. I truely think it is the only way that my family could have a cat. If you have other experiences in your household, more power to you. I certainly see your arguements and understand where you are coming from.
 
Originally posted by Kim in TN
I'm a technician at an animal hospital. I see this surgery fairly often, I do think its a gruesome surgery BUT I believe the discomfort the cat will be in a for a week or even two, compared to a LIFETIME of being an indoor cat without the threat of being put outside for scratching the kids or tearing up furniture, with the outdoor threats such as being brutally killed by a dog, hit by a car etc is mininal. And this does happen. Now I wouldn't just declaw without reason, but if the cat or landlord gives reason then...declaw. of course this is JMHO!! My personal cats aren't delcawed because they haven't given me a reason to have too.
I do know exactly what goes into a declaw so if anyone needs details you can email me or private message me either one
BTW my boss dislikes doing declaws but does so for the cats future, also we don't do ear crops at our clinic for the same reason. We also carry the softpaws for those who wish to try that first.
marcusplus4@charter.net

Ok, I'm confused! LOL Are you saying it's bad for a cat to be a LIFELONG indoor cat? My Siamese, Mushu, will absolutely be an indoor cat his entire life. (Remember, he still has his claws though, so there's no issue of that in our situation). We prefer to keep him indoors because we live on a fairly busy street, I've read that indoor cats generally have longer lifespans, and I don't like the idea of him being outside picking up fleas or any other germs. He does have a VERY good life here with us, believe me, he is the KING of the house :teeth: Maybe I misunderstood what you meant, so could you please clarify? Thanks.
 
All 5 of my babies are declawed. There are many reasons I made this decision. First because John-Cole was small when we got the first three and then I didn't think it was fair for the fourth. The fifth came to me declawed. If they weren't declawed at a young age I would be going through a difficult time now because of my grandmother living with us. She has one leg that has had numerous blood clots in it if something scratches that let she has to go to the hospital so it would have been a choice between having them declawed at an older age which isn't nearly as safe or getting rid of them. That would have been a hard choice. When we get our Maine Coon in a few weeks he will be declawed as well. With my grandmother its simply not a choice.

My cats act completly normal, they rip and romp and jump and sleep with us. With the exceptions of the week after it happened I have never seen any ill effects from the declawing.

I do, however, believe that if the cat is going to be going outside for any reason whatsoever that it is NOT fair to declaw it and leave it defenseless against dogs or cats with claws.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
We used to be on the "against" side of declawing... we had one cat declawed (front only) from living in an apt with requirements, and our other cat had all claws. Then we got a puppy. The cat with claws tormented the dog and at one point, the dog was crying/whining and when we looked, there was a claw sticking out of her nose! The cat limped around quite a bit and ended up getting an infection... after she was better she really started shredding the furniture (was not happy to have a puppy in the house.) After discussions with the vet she was declawed and it seemed to bother her a lot less having the Vet it, than ripping out her claw on the puppies nose did.

That cat passed away 5 years ago, but did learn to "tolerate" the dog, a bit.... during the 5 years they both lived with us.... and easily learned to use her back claws when they didn't get along.
 
Sorry if I made my statement fuzzy, what I was trying to say
was I think its great for an cat to be indoor (our cats are indoor only and have claws) if warrented; its a "small" price to pay IMHO to be declawed if its means a lifetime of the safety of indoor life, ie: no dogs to kill them or cars, wild animals etc.
Hope this clears up my point (MHO)
 
Originally posted by Kim in TN
Sorry if I made my statement fuzzy, what I was trying to say
was I think its great for an cat to be indoor (our cats are indoor only and have claws) if warrented; its a "small" price to pay IMHO to be declawed if its means a lifetime of the safety of indoor life, ie: no dogs to kill them or cars, wild animals etc.
Hope this clears up my point (MHO)

Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up :) I happen to agree with you... If a cat needs to be declawed in order to be adopted by a family, or face being put to sleep, then I'd definitely opt for the declawing.
 
I'm *very* strongly on the AGAINST side of declawing. To me, it's cruel, unless ALL other options have been tried first. You're taking away part of what makes a cat a cat -- like, their ability to climb, part of how they mark their territory, their ability to defend themselves (yes, they'll compensate, but so do people who lose a leg). Declawing effectively removes every finger from the first joint to the tip of the finger. How would you like to go through life with that handicap? Yes, it's doable, yes they can live healthy and happy lives after being declawed, so could you after losing 1/3 of every one of your fingers. But that doesn't mean it's something nice to do just because you think your cat's claws are too sharp or you're tired of the cat clawing the furniture.

I only support it if training has been attempted and failed, if correct scratching surfaces have been provided in ample amount (not just one in the entire house) and failed, if trimming has been tried and failed, and if soft-paws have been tried and failed, and so it essentially comes down to either making the cat an outdoor cat, getting rid of the cat, killing the cat, or declawing the cat -- only as a LAST resort do I support it.

Most people I know who declaw just aren't patient enough to try all the alternatives before making the decision to declaw. That, I don't support. If you aren't willing to put the time in to *try* to stop a cat's habits of scratching where inappropriate, then IMHO you don't need to own a cat. Go get a dog instead. If you *have* put that time in and that time has failed, or if there is some health reason that you *can't* risk putting that time in (and I've only heard of one so far that has satisfied me), then as a last resort, okay.

<b>If you do get any cats declawed, it is very, very, very, very, VERY important that you NEVER let the cat outdoors. </b> Ever. Unless on a leash or in a carrier. Claws are the cat's first line of defense either for climbing to escape trouble, or in attack. Remove that, then put your cat outdoors, and it's practically a death sentance. If you're going to try to put a declawed cat outdoors, find a new home for it.

Sorry if I sound harsh, but this is a pet peeve of mine with cat owners. When you buy a dog, you expect it to bark. "De-barking" a dog isn't readily accepted, and barking is part of a dog. So why is de-clawing a cat okay?
 
I did not have our first two cats (brothers) declawed even though they were indoor cats. We were told at that time (25 years or so ago) that the procedure is very painful for them. Those two cats are now sadly gone after 15 and 18 wonderful years.

We now have FOUR cats (I can't believe we have four cats and a dog and bird to boot). Anyway, one is a cat who adopted us and he does go outside, so he has his claws. The other three we got when they were babies and we knew they would remain indoor cats. We discussed declawing with our vet (a relative BTW) and were told that the procedure has changed and is not like it was so many years ago. I didn't ask for the details but were told it is not as painful as it once was. We had all three declawed at the time of neutering and they show no ill-effects from the same.

I also know this decision is not popular with some but it works for us. Our kitties are healthy and happy. And my furniture is not torn to shreds (well, except for one chair that we still have from when we had our original two guys). I don't care how many clawing posts one has around the house, how diligent one is in clipping the nails, it does not deter them from scratching the furniture (on purpose) and scratching their human companions and each other (usually accidently).

So, in answer to the OP's question - Yes, I do recommend declawing for cats.
 
... If a cat needs to be declawed in order to be adopted by a family, or face being put to sleep, then I'd definitely opt for the declawing.

I just said that to a friend last night.


I've heard of a couple of options (that actually came up on the debate board)

One is cutting a ligament that prevents the claw from being used.
Another was laser declawing. You might want ot look into one of these

However my opinion is that Spaying and Nuetering are also painful and unnatural, but as a rule we don't consider it inhumane. Like stated at the beginning, if the option is being put to sleep or a long life wihtout claws, I think the long life wihtout claws is the better option. One point I strongly agree with is if you declaw, do not let the cat outdoors.
 
you people have got to be kidding me . how can you take away all that the cat has for protecting itself. All I can say is .... I found a cat outside with no claws. It was with me INSIDE for 10 years .. some uncaring ***** tossed her outside for whatever reason. If it was not for me this caring female would have died. how can you take away there only protection..for what........he loves me...yea I undestand that.. but.... your taking away his/her fun ... they love love love. to scccraccth.... how can u take that away........... I cant see it...sorry dave
 
I hope I made myself clear earlier. We never take our cats outdoors. We have always had totally indoor cats. I meant that we left back claws as a defense in case they should ever run away or somehow get let outside. In fact, Cricket freaks out if you take him outside. He thinks he is making a trip to the vet since it's the only time he ever leaves our house. It also gives them a line of defense against the dogs, if needed, which it really isn't. Cricket rules the roost. He is literally spoiled rotten. I'd like to see any household that loves their animals more than we do.

I think we did explore our options before declawing Annie. We tried several things and they just didn't work. We talked at great length with our vet and decided that for our family this was the right decision. I admit that we decided to declaw Cricket before we even got him, though. I guess we had such a positive experience with Annie after her surgery that we didn't want to go through that again. The rights of our cat has to be weighed against our rights to have nice furniture and drapes. By the way, my dogs do bark, but the barking doesn't ruin anything. It's just annoying.

I have to say that I'd rather have a good and loving home with a slight disabilty than to be perfect in a home where people didn't care. I realize that some people can offer both, but many cats live in households that really don't consider them part of the family. This is what worked for us. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just respectfully disagreeing. :teeth: I do feel sad though when I feel like others are judging me.
 
don't blame us because someone else abandoned the cat you adopted. My cat "scratches" at thign every day. Her fun has not been taken away. Hey they have fun breeding too, do you think we shouldn't take that fun away either?
 
We have two cats who are both declawed...

Our oldest had a problem with his claws cracking and actually growing around back into his paws... The vet recommended we declaw him (this was 13 years ago)... Needless to say, when we added the second cat we had him declawed, as well, we did not want the oldest, who is clearly the less dominant of the two, to have an unfair advantage, even when they play wrestle...

We are perfectly fine with this... Neither cat will EVER go outdoors... we have even made arrangements for them if something should happen to us...

I think the important part of this is that the cat will never be going outside...

BTW, they both still have back claws, as the oldest has no problems with those...
 


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