Debt Dumpers - 2016

A good laptop should definitely last for more than 2 years. I've found that Macs are longer lived - so the investment up front has ended up being well worth it for me. My older one is over 6 years old and I finally replaced it at the end of last year (but still have it on hand) since it was full of over 20k photos, presentations, etc and had really slowed down as a result. Also, the mouse pad stopped working last year as well as the cd player. I've never had an issue with it or my new macbook air overheating, but my first laptop was an HP and only lasted about 2 years before it did that and bit the dust.

My Mac is going on 5 this August. It has slowed down some, but I'm wondering now based on some of the comments on the Swagbucks thread if it's related to having the Swagbucks Chrome Extension installed. I've uninstalled to test that out. But yes, I'm definitely a Mac for life now! I've had a few problems with it, but overall been very happy.
 
Yeah, this is a crappy acer! LOL Not built to last but it was super cheap and I've gotten my money's worth out of it already.
 
I bought DH a great laptop for Christmas one year. He wanted one but didn't use it so I used it. When DGS6 was old enough to watch videos and play games on it (well, actually, sit and stand up lol), I would let him watch it since at the time we didn't have the Disney channel that played Disney Junior all day. I was cooking dinner one night while watching him and I hear him giggling and look over to find he had poured his water in it and was splashing away at the keys. It sizzled for a minute then went dark. So much for a good laptop!
 
Our tax refund finally transferred out of our account this morning to pay own DH's car. We are now down to $7300 left! Between his actual payment this month, his payment next month, and his bonus from work, the car should definitely be paid off by the end of May! :banana:
 

Since we've all been chatting here for so long I wanted to pose a question to the group and get a little feedback. I'm on a frugal/cost cutting/couponing type group on facebook as I am wanting to learn better ways to cut corners....

So many people on the group are cheap to the point of being ridiculous. I'm all for saving money and want to cut corners where I can but at the same time life is for living. Also I work with a lady who is notoriously cheap...one day I brought taco bell into the break room and she said "that's a lot of cheese on your tacos" I said "well I asked for extra cheese" and she replies "bet you paid extra for it" and I said "bet I did but I like extra cheese" geez 15 cents isn't going to break me when it's something I like and it's not like I eat at for lunch more than 2-3 times a month.

So I guess my questions is where do you draw the line between being conscious about your money and being insane with it? Like I try to keep a fairly strict grocery budget which means not a ton of snacks which we don't need anyways but I'm not living on beans and rice for a month unless I have to.
 
Tax return in! Yay! I know we have 2 big expenditures this month (house insurance $700ish and motorcycle insurance $600 (insane what vehicles cost to insure here) so once those are out, I will know where we are at. Mortgage is out for the beginning of the moth, as are retirement savings, and utilities, so just a couple of small things here outside of the regular gas/food/other expenses.

So I think I am going set some goals/break up my savings account like @stayhomemom77 did a little while ago- now to figure out the "buckets" ...
 
Since we've all been chatting here for so long I wanted to pose a question to the group and get a little feedback. I'm on a frugal/cost cutting/couponing type group on facebook as I am wanting to learn better ways to cut corners....

So many people on the group are cheap to the point of being ridiculous. I'm all for saving money and want to cut corners where I can but at the same time life is for living. Also I work with a lady who is notoriously cheap...one day I brought taco bell into the break room and she said "that's a lot of cheese on your tacos" I said "well I asked for extra cheese" and she replies "bet you paid extra for it" and I said "bet I did but I like extra cheese" geez 15 cents isn't going to break me when it's something I like and it's not like I eat at for lunch more than 2-3 times a month.

So I guess my questions is where do you draw the line between being conscious about your money and being insane with it? Like I try to keep a fairly strict grocery budget which means not a ton of snacks which we don't need anyways but I'm not living on beans and rice for a month unless I have to.

I agree that the 15 cents for extra cheese were 15 cents well spent! We try to cut corners where we can (buying groceries at Aldi, watching sales and planning our grocery menus based on what's on sale for the week, shopping the clearance racks, garage sales and thrift stores) but have no problem paying a premium for things that we enjoy. About the weirdest thing we do is to save our used dinner napkins in a bag near the sink (if they're not too dirty) to wipe out greasy pots and pans before washing.
 
Since we've all been chatting here for so long I wanted to pose a question to the group and get a little feedback. I'm on a frugal/cost cutting/couponing type group on facebook as I am wanting to learn better ways to cut corners....

So many people on the group are cheap to the point of being ridiculous. I'm all for saving money and want to cut corners where I can but at the same time life is for living. Also I work with a lady who is notoriously cheap...one day I brought taco bell into the break room and she said "that's a lot of cheese on your tacos" I said "well I asked for extra cheese" and she replies "bet you paid extra for it" and I said "bet I did but I like extra cheese" geez 15 cents isn't going to break me when it's something I like and it's not like I eat at for lunch more than 2-3 times a month.

So I guess my questions is where do you draw the line between being conscious about your money and being insane with it? Like I try to keep a fairly strict grocery budget which means not a ton of snacks which we don't need anyways but I'm not living on beans and rice for a month unless I have to.

I recently started reading the Mr. Money Mustache forums about early retirement. Some of those people take it way too far. I've really been trying to lower our utility usage, in part to save money but also in an effort to be more environmentally-friendly. However, I'm not about to turn off my heat entirely and start using a single heat lamp bulb to heat myself only...
 
Since we've all been chatting here for so long I wanted to pose a question to the group and get a little feedback. I'm on a frugal/cost cutting/couponing type group on facebook as I am wanting to learn better ways to cut corners....

So many people on the group are cheap to the point of being ridiculous. I'm all for saving money and want to cut corners where I can but at the same time life is for living. Also I work with a lady who is notoriously cheap...one day I brought taco bell into the break room and she said "that's a lot of cheese on your tacos" I said "well I asked for extra cheese" and she replies "bet you paid extra for it" and I said "bet I did but I like extra cheese" geez 15 cents isn't going to break me when it's something I like and it's not like I eat at for lunch more than 2-3 times a month.

So I guess my questions is where do you draw the line between being conscious about your money and being insane with it? Like I try to keep a fairly strict grocery budget which means not a ton of snacks which we don't need anyways but I'm not living on beans and rice for a month unless I have to.

For us...we just have general frugal rules and then exceptions to those rules and then we tend not to stress about it much in between. It took us about a year to really hone our budget, but we now have it at a place where we are happy with the amount we have given ourselves to spend.

In general terms, we have a fairly strict budget and then we just commit to living within it. I know some families that eat out every week. I don't believe there's anything wrong with that if it fits within your budget...but we don't choose to do that. We have fixed a dollar amount to certain activities and then we don't go over it. (I will admit that there are rare exceptions to even this rule!) It often means foregoing an activity or item until next month, or saving up for a while. It's good to practice restraint.

We don't have a lot of "spending money" in our budget. We allow for $75-$100 a month in "family fun money", $40 a month for date nights, DH and I each take $100 a month spending money and the kids get $5 a week each for allowance. We also take out $20 a week in cash as WAM (walking around money).

We discuss as a family how we are going to spend our family fun money each month. This is the money that covers things like: the movies, eating out, bowling, museum/science center/zoo, etc On average, we only eat out once (sometimes twice) a month as a result of this tight budget and we hit the movies only three or four times a year. Some people would balk at this...but it works for us. This month (today, in fact!) we are buying The Force Awakens on Blue Ray with part of our family fun money. We will probably use the rest to go out to eat later in the month.

DH and I often forego taking our spending money and instead put it towards our vacation fund. Or sometimes we use a portion of it for ourselves and then the rest goes to vacation.

DH and I spend a lot of time together as a couple but we usually do free things. When DH and I have "official" dates that cost us money, we do them during the day when the kids are in school, so we save on babysitting fees and we pay for them out of our personal spending money. So, our "date nights" budget is actually with the kids. Each parent gets $20 to take a kid out on a one-on-one outing for some quality time. We rotate every other month. This is a new concept we introduced in 2016. So far, it's going like gangbusters!! This month I am paired up with DS and DH is with DD. They saved some of their money last month so they could afford to go to the movies this month. DD is THRILLED! DS and I are still considering our options. The kids LOVE to budget how to spend the date money each month. Who knew fun dates would be such an amazing teaching tool?

Occasionally, the WAM covers things like: going out for ice cream, buying nachos and cheese for an at home movie night, a hot and ready pizza, swimming fees or skating fees at the local rec center, etc. Most of the time it covers the junk we get at the dollar store, field trip fees for the kids, buying scout popcorn, paying the paper girl, etc. Whatever we don't spend goes in the vacation fund...so we are actually pretty frugal with this money. We buy/pay for what we need but try to keep the "extras" to a minimum. However, the money is there if we need it/want it!

I guess finding that balance is a little different for everyone, but we prefer to spend less on a monthly basis so we can vacation more. In the end, I think it's all about priorities. (Sorry, that got long!!)

Tax return in! Yay! I know we have 2 big expenditures this month (house insurance $700ish and motorcycle insurance $600 (insane what vehicles cost to insure here) so once those are out, I will know where we are at. Mortgage is out for the beginning of the moth, as are retirement savings, and utilities, so just a couple of small things here outside of the regular gas/food/other expenses.

So I think I am going set some goals/break up my savings account like @stayhomemom77 did a little while ago- now to figure out the "buckets" ...

:yay: for the taxes being in! That IS a lot in insurance. I think I blocked that part of my Kamloops life out! :rotfl2:

Breaking down my savings goals was one of the best things I ever did! DH thought I was nuts and just wanted a big ol' savings account for the house/emergency/curveball et al stuff and one other one for all the vacation/present money/clothing money etc stuff. I do the bookkeeping so I did it my way :laughing: and I love having everything so clearly delineated.
 
For us...we just have general frugal rules and then exceptions to those rules and then we tend not to stress about it much in between.

Breaking down my savings goals was one of the best things I ever did! DH thought I was nuts and just wanted a big ol' savings account for the house/emergency/curveball et al stuff and one other one for all the vacation/present money/clothing money etc stuff. I do the bookkeeping so I did it my way :laughing: and I love having everything so clearly delineated.

:thanks:No I'm glad it was long I love these ideas and def some stuff I want to keep in mind as DD gets older shes only a toddler right now so we have time to figure some stuff out but we know family stuff can get pricey in a hurry! We live on a farm (well my DH grandpa's farm so all the benefits none of the costs) and right now our family outings consist of feeding the baby goats and chickens but I know that's wont last forever.


Also very glad to know I'm not alone in the frugal but not over the top group. I was beginning to wonder if I was doing it wrong lol :rotfl2:
 
Seeing all the recent talk about HSAs has got me thinking. I have health insurance that is meant to be used with an HSA, but I've never set it up...not a good decision on my part, but I kind of forgot about it and life happened. But now I'm finding us with a little bit of a cushion that we can use to start building up for any surprise expenses that may pop up and I'm thinking about getting an HSA account and contributing to it every paycheck. It would only be a small amount, but I figure a little is better than none.

So here's the question: I'm also looking for a new job, one that will most likely have better benefits than I get now, so I may not need an HSA. Should I still start contributing even though I might be leaving? I have no idea how long the job search will take, but I haven't been super aggressive with my search up to this point either. What happens to the account if I switch jobs and no longer have a compatible health isurance plan?
 
Seeing all the recent talk about HSAs has got me thinking. I have health insurance that is meant to be used with an HSA, but I've never set it up...not a good decision on my part, but I kind of forgot about it and life happened. But now I'm finding us with a little bit of a cushion that we can use to start building up for any surprise expenses that may pop up and I'm thinking about getting an HSA account and contributing to it every paycheck. It would only be a small amount, but I figure a little is better than none.

So here's the question: I'm also looking for a new job, one that will most likely have better benefits than I get now, so I may not need an HSA. Should I still start contributing even though I might be leaving? I have no idea how long the job search will take, but I haven't been super aggressive with my search up to this point either. What happens to the account if I switch jobs and no longer have a compatible health isurance plan?

You get to keep the money and use for medical expenses. It is yours. That was one of the things I really liked about the HSA. (There is a non-zero chance that the company that administers the HSA charges a maintenance fee if you are no longer with the sponsoring company. )
 
Since we've all been chatting here for so long I wanted to pose a question to the group and get a little feedback. I'm on a frugal/cost cutting/couponing type group on facebook as I am wanting to learn better ways to cut corners....

So many people on the group are cheap to the point of being ridiculous. I'm all for saving money and want to cut corners where I can but at the same time life is for living. Also I work with a lady who is notoriously cheap...one day I brought taco bell into the break room and she said "that's a lot of cheese on your tacos" I said "well I asked for extra cheese" and she replies "bet you paid extra for it" and I said "bet I did but I like extra cheese" geez 15 cents isn't going to break me when it's something I like and it's not like I eat at for lunch more than 2-3 times a month.

So I guess my questions is where do you draw the line between being conscious about your money and being insane with it? Like I try to keep a fairly strict grocery budget which means not a ton of snacks which we don't need anyways but I'm not living on beans and rice for a month unless I have to.
If anything being budget conscious has made me more aware, if that makes any sense. We have 4 adult children, our youngest is 25 and we both had to learn to not buy groceries for 6, but for 2. In the last couple of years, we realized how much we were throwing out, because it went to waste or expired. We tended to go out to eat more, because neither one of us felt like cooking. Now we set up a plan for cooking. We take stock of our pantry and freezer and use what we have. We make a list for when we run out of a product. And if we don't need the product, right away, we watch the adds for it to go on sale. This has helped tremendously in food waste. Plus, what we cook the night before, we eat as our lunch left overs the next day at work. We figured we spend $200 a week in groceries and that includes cleaning products, compared to eating out 3-4 times a week, which probably cost $150, on top of what we spent on groceries. We have started to see our savings, and I have been putting that amount in our vacation fund.
 
I reuse dryer sheets - not for a second load of laundry, but once the dryer is done I'll take the sheet out and use it to dust something. Dust REALLY clings to those things ;-)

Then again, I'll go out after that and buy a $4 iced latte from Starbucks, so I'm a paradox like that :confused3
 
You get to keep the money and use for medical expenses. It is yours. That was one of the things I really liked about the HSA. (There is a non-zero chance that the company that administers the HSA charges a maintenance fee if you are no longer with the sponsoring company. )

Thanks for the info! If nothing else, we could use it for glasses since both DH and I wear them. From what I understand, vision and dental expenses are also coveres under an HSA?
 
I'm cheap in some ways (many ways I'm not) but some specific ways I save money:

-using online mom swap/24 bidding group to pick up things that we would normally buy- for example- DD11- she is very tall for her age and has been out of kids clothes for a while now- I used to get most of her clothes at Children's place at the end of seasons when they were like 80% off and then add coupons they emailed, so would buy most things 90-95% off- can't do that anymore- thankfully DD isn't picky AT all yet with what she wears, just as long as there are jeans and shirts and hoodies/sweatshirts in her drawers, so I've picked up "lots" of barely worn/not worn tween/teen clothes for next to nothing...I've picked up other things off these sites as well, for a fraction of the cost, I've also sold things on them too

-farm food- my inlaws have a farm and raise some cows and pigs and chickens. we are lucky to get both meat and eggs from them. One of their sources of feed comes from a friend who has an agreement with some of the grocery stores- friday afternoon he picks up bread products and produce that are expiring over the weekend (and thus the store can't send to the food bank) he drops off some stuff at inlaw's farm. As I am out there fridays generally riding my horse, I take a look and see what there is - there is nothing wrong with the stuff and most isn't even past it's suggested best before date- I rarely need to buy things like nan bread, wraps, english muffins, bagels as a result- the stuff is fine- exact same stuff in the stores. I can often even get organic etc. Some people think it's weird I'm sure- as it's going to animals rather than being wasted, but might as well feed my family.

-I have dryer wool balls instead of dryer sheets- these are awesome! Really cut down the dryer time and no need to buy sheets

-Not/limited eating out, not buying drinks- we have really really cut this back- not just meals, but things like drinks at events- bringing water or waiting till we get home really does save a tonne when you add it up. We take our own hot chocolate powder to the ski hill, empty water bottles to the hockey game (there's a water fountain) stuff like that.

-DH driving an OLD car- it has 620,000km- nuff said- that's a lot of years without needing a car payment

Yes, I think these things make me cheap, but making these changes over the last few years has made a HUGE difference to our budget- people make mention that we travel a lot- I can directly correlate our travel money to these changes.
 
Yup, i think we are going on 8-9 years with our Mac and it was re-furbed when we got it!
Our MacBook Pro is about six years old. We are going to need to upgrade soon though bc with the latest major iOS upgrade, it's been crashing all the time. We barely use it right now bc of that. We got the kids MacBook Airs for the holidays (oldest in high school needed it for school; our middle schooler also uses his for school but mainly plays games) and although I like having the cd drive in the pro, I think we'll probably go in the Air direction soon. Everything is on the cloud now anyway.
 
Since we've all been chatting here for so long I wanted to pose a question to the group and get a little feedback. I'm on a frugal/cost cutting/couponing type group on facebook as I am wanting to learn better ways to cut corners....

So many people on the group are cheap to the point of being ridiculous. I'm all for saving money and want to cut corners where I can but at the same time life is for living. Also I work with a lady who is notoriously cheap...one day I brought taco bell into the break room and she said "that's a lot of cheese on your tacos" I said "well I asked for extra cheese" and she replies "bet you paid extra for it" and I said "bet I did but I like extra cheese" geez 15 cents isn't going to break me when it's something I like and it's not like I eat at for lunch more than 2-3 times a month.

So I guess my questions is where do you draw the line between being conscious about your money and being insane with it? Like I try to keep a fairly strict grocery budget which means not a ton of snacks which we don't need anyways but I'm not living on beans and rice for a month unless I have to.
I completely agree with you. I don't know where that line is, but we have crossed it into "yes we have debt and are working on paying it off, but we are also doing just fine and if we want to by brand name Oreos, we will" if that makes sense. When I freelanced and made very little, we couldn't do much of what we do now. And no, the money isn't everything (in fact, most of what we've been doing since I went back to work full time 2.5 yrs ago is maxing out on retirement and trying to put aside as much as we can for the kids' college) so we're not spending like fiends but also, we don't need to live in ramen anymore. I'm exaggerating...but we rarely went out, if the kids needed clothes, I'd say to myself "this week I can buy this one's sneakers, next week I'll buy that one new jeans," etc. so, it's nice to enjoy life's little pleasures even if it's just the extra 15 cents for cheese.

All that said...I use sales, coupons, ibotta, swagbucks, etc etc all the time. It's ingrained in me. Not gonna stop.
 
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I completely agree with you. I don't know where that line is, but we have crossed it into "yes we have debt and are working on paying it off, but we are also doing just fine and if we want to by brand name Oreos, we will" if that makes sense. When I freelanced and made very little, we couldn't do much of what we do now. And no, the money isn't everything (in fact, most of what we've been doing since I went back to work full time 2.5 yrs ago is maxing out on retirement and trying to put aside as much as we can for the kids' college) so we're not spending like fiends but also, we don't need to live in ramen anymore. I'm exaggerating...but we rarely went out, if the kids needed clothes, I'd say to myself "this week I can buy this one's sneakers, next week I'll buy that one new jeans," etc. so, it's nice to enjoy life's little pleasures even if it's just the extra 15 cents for cheese.

All that said...I use sales, coupons, ibotta, swagbucks, etc etc all the time. It's ingrained in me. Not gonna stop.

That's how I feel too I want to better learn to manage the money I have but still be able to enjoy. Whatt the money of working for this money if I Can't have some little nice things sometimes!
 
Thanks for the info! If nothing else, we could use it for glasses since both DH and I wear them. From what I understand, vision and dental expenses are also coveres under an HSA?
Correct. At one time, there were four of us with glasses and/or contacts. We could blow through some money for that stuff.
 












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