Death at DW today

summerrluvv said:
I've only rode it once, but I had the same exact feeling you describe. I really don't like that ride at all.

Count me in. I tried it once and said it wasn't for me. Neither is Tower of Terror. I don't know what happened to me when I got older, but my entire sense of adventure has disappeared. Rides that used to thrill me now scare the heck out of me. :( I'm old. :(
 
mommytomy3 said:
Unfortunately, I do know how the family feels, as I unexpectedly lost my 2 year 8 month old son in a drowning accident. I have been to grief support group, and I know from other parents that there is something called Long QT syndrome, and it is an undetected heart problem that can cause death from even an alarm clock going off- any over excitement can cause even death.. its from the hearbeat speeding up or something like that-- maybe this boy had some thing like that??
My heart goes out to this family, as I know that their lives will never be the same again.
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((((hugs))) I'm so sorry for your loss.

If mechanical problems have been or soon will be ruled out, it probably was something like you mentioned.
 
This is so awful. Our thoughts and prayers are most certainly with the family, Disney employees, everyone. This is so tragic. I lost a first cousin that was only 3 months old, and I've seen how death of children affects the parents. It's such an ordeal. I hope this family finds peace.

I called my pastor and have added the family to our prayer chain also.

And at this moment, I'm really feeling assured that I'm only taking my daughter this year. She's 6 and we won't be going on any rides that go fast or upside down. She's a certifiable wimp (and I'm thankful for that right now).
 
Just wondering...........has anyone seen the video on CNN.com concerning this? The link to the video is in the article about the story, but my sound isn't working on my computer for some reason, so I have no clue what's being said. Does anyone know? Thanks!
 

mdhkitten said:
Just wondering...........has anyone seen the video on CNN.com concerning this? The link to the video is in the article about the story, but my sound isn't working on my computer for some reason, so I have no clue what's being said. Does anyone know? Thanks!

Link: javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/us/2006/06/29/candiotti.roller.coaster.death.cnn','2006/07/06');

I dunno, try c/p into your title bar.
 
stemikger said:
IMHO I think coaster and thrill ride designers have pushed the limits on what our bodies can handle. I know I sound like an old fart, but I long for the day of a nice old fashioned 30 mph wooden coaster.

Stem, are you sure you really long for those "old days?"

Given you live in NYC, I wonder if have you ever gone to Coney Island and ridden the vintage Cyclone rollercoaster. That "old fashioned wooden coaster" was designed and built 79 years ago, but the first drop (below) makes the WDW rock and rollercoaster feel like a walk in the park. In other words, "high G forces," deep drops and fast changes in speed on rollercoasters are nothing new at all.
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In fact, as scary as the Coney Cyclone is, it gives the rider only a small taste of just how horrific the old 1920s (the "Golden Age" of woodies) coasters could be. The most infamous of those -- and to this day viewed by hard core coaster fans as the most terrifying rollercoaster ever built -- was the Crystal Beach Cyclone at Crystal Beach Park in Ontario, Canada.

Built and opened in 1927, the ride was so intense that there was a full time nurse on duty at all times to revive riders who had passed out. The Cyclone began with what has been called "the best first drop ever," a steep fall (picture below) which made it appear to riders that the cars were going straight into Lake Erie. It then twisted sharply to the right in a great swooping curve. Next, it plunged into a straight drop alongside its lift hill. After that, the Cyclone dove into a spiraling helix angled at 70 degrees. Then, without letting up for an instant, riders were dropped into a high speed figure-eight section. Next, after a dive inside the first drop, the trains entered a series of abrupt drops. Next came the famous trick-track, where the track banked rapidly from side to side. Finally, after a couple more turns, came the brake run. The total trip from the top of the first drop to the station brakes was only forty seconds, but that was more than enough for most riders.
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The view from the top of the lift hill. See any straight, flat track ahead? Nope....
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So, trust me, while the WDW RNR may seem like a big, tough, abusive ride to some, trust me, it's nothing compared to what you could experience almost eight decades ago. Engineers with doctorates from MIT using state of the art CAD (computer assisted design) power today are just beginning to catch up with what a few mechanics with slide rules cooked up in the 1920s.... :teacher:
 
I just feel so sorry for that family. I can't imagine the guilt (even though it is not their fault) they are feeling. I know I have a 15 year old and I hate it when she rides thoses "Thrill" rides but she loves them and that is why we are there..to have fun. I will still allow here to ride the rides at WDW I know they are checked and rechecked. I will continue to worry like a good Mom but I will allow her to have her fun. ?There are so many other things that I will not allow her to do. My heart goes out to the family.
 
The link on the CNN article just has two reporter talking about the incident and shows aerial shots of the area (with the large gate to RnR closed). They simply re-hash all the information you've read here. One thing I thought was a little weird is that the one reporter asked the other reporter if they had closed the park (not just the ride but the park)! I completely understand closing the ride for the proper investigation but why would you close the park???
 
My heart breaks for this family. So many are lost so young...all we can do is protect them to the best of our abilities, enjoy life with them for as long as we have them, and be grateful we have the opportunity to know them for as long as we do. Every parent lives with that inner fear that we may lose them someday. The reality must be nearly impossible to bear. Mine are getting extra hugs and kisses tonight, whether they want them or not!
 
I also heard that when guests were asking why the ride was closed, the CM's would just say they have no idea. I think that's kind of wrong. If someone died on a major attraction in a theme park, I think the patrons deserve to know.
 
Our prayers and thoughts of condolence are needed by the family, all who can take a moment and wish peace for this family during the horrific time.

God Bless,
 
Bo'sMom said:
Count me in. I tried it once and said it wasn't for me. Neither is Tower of Terror. I don't know what happened to me when I got older, but my entire sense of adventure has disappeared. Rides that used to thrill me now scare the heck out of me. :( I'm old. :(
It's funny how everything happens. I am short(4feet, 11 inches). When I was younger, I couldn't ride roller coasters because of my height. I just rode Space Mountain for the first time in June 2004. I can't ride park rides(those spinning things) but I love roller coasters. The Rock-N-Roller Coaster is one of my ALL TIME FAVES :love: !!! After we rode it the first time, I told my husband that if they had a refrigerator and a bathroom in the limo-cars, I would never get off the ride.
I am so sad about this. I think people NEED to be aware of their health status BEFORE they go to parks and get on rides like these. If you have blood pressure or heart issues and you haven't taken your medication, you probably shouldn't get on these types of rides. HOWEVER, first you need to KNOW if you have any problems at all.
 
summerrluvv said:
I also heard that when guests were asking why the ride was closed, the CM's would just say they have no idea. I think that's kind of wrong. If someone died on a major attraction in a theme park, I think the patrons deserve to know.

What are you going to say???

"Someone DIED on this ride today... we're sorry, it's closed. It'll reopen in the morning."
 
my heart goes out to the family. This is so sad and I can't imagine their pain. I think the CM's say they don't know why the ride is closed because what else would you say? Imagine if they informed you and your family a death happened and you where walking in with your kids. I think they say they don't know because they figure the adults will eventually but kids may not be able to handle this kind of news.
Agian I feel so sad for the family and I wish things like this didn't happen.
:grouphug:
 
Sonno said:
What are you going to say???

"Someone DIED on this ride today... we're sorry, it's closed. It'll reopen in the morning."

How about "Someone was seriously injured on the ride and it's closed." Not "we don't know what's wrong with it."

I would like to know if someone was injured or killed on a ride I was about ready to step on. I know that Space Mountain was closed last time we were there and the CM said she didn't know why. It reopned shortly thereafter, but if someone was injured (or even died), I would have wanted to know, because that would probably change my mind about riding the ride after it re-opened. That's just me though and MTC.
 
:grouphug:
Condolences to the family! We are truly sorry!
 
famofsix said:
my heart goes out to the family. This is so sad and I can't imagine their pain. I think the CM's say they don't know why the ride is closed because what else would you say? Imagine if they informed you and your family a death happened and you where walking in with your kids. I think they say they don't know because they figure the adults will eventually but kids may not be able to handle this kind of news.
Agian I feel so sad for the family and I wish things like this didn't happen.
:grouphug:

Exactly.
 
My heart goes out to this family. It is something horrible to happen, whether or not you are on vacation. And I think that we hear more about what happens at Disney because they are so huge. Hopefully they will find out what really happened. My thoughts and prayers are with the family and all that were there to see it. :grouphug: pixiedust:
 
summerrluvv said:
How about "Someone was seriously injured on the ride and it's closed." Not "we don't know what's wrong with it."

I would like to know if someone was injured or killed on a ride I was about ready to step on. I know that Space Mountain was closed last time we were there and the CM said she didn't know why. It reopned shortly thereafter, but if someone was injured (or even died), I would have wanted to know, because that would probably change my mind about riding the ride after it re-opened. That's just me though and MTC.

Well, think about it. Put your self in the shoes of the person calling the shots. Which would you rather?

A) Tell people the truth and have a whole lot of people asking questions that the CMs probably don't know the answers to. Having people linger in the area "rubbernecking". And putting a damper on other people's day.

or

B) Instuct the CMs to say they don't know why it's closed and have the general populous move along to something else to enjoy the rest of their day.

Really, which would you rather?
 
I cannot express enough how sad & horrific this incident is for the parents & his little brother. In one of the articles it states they checked out of their resort this morning and went to spend the day at MGM !!
You know how we all get on these DIS Boards and plan our dream vacations down to the last detail, this family cannot ever feel any magic, anymore!
To see this unfold before their eyes, and watch him unresponsive....It is a Nightmare!
It just tugs at my heart & I pray that the family will one day be able to smile & feel some peace.....
 


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