DD wants a purity ring

[Uncle Remus]

 

[Granny square]

Lol, people are funny. They aren't chastity belts. They may not actually change behavior but they cause no harm.

 

[chobie]

No, I just asked why it mattered to you so much, you made this personal when you got nasty with me. YOu made tons of comments before I ever made one, you had already been into a fairly heated discussion with another poster, I simply questioned why it mattered so much to you. Others had an opinion that they didn't like them, but not with the same attitude that you have.

If you don't like them fine, if you do like them fine, but you are hell bent on arguing with a poster that does seem to like them and what they stand for, but you can't accept that.

I got nasty with you?!!!'? Please point that out to me.

Wanting to know why I cared about the issue is getting personal. Why do you care why I care? And you did not ask it as a question.

Anyone who has bothered to form an opinion about subject cares about that subject. Anyone who follows along for 22 pages of comments on a subject cares about that subject.


And why didn't you call out the other poster who was in the "heated discussion" with me? Obviously she cared as much as I did, but that didn't seem to bother you.

Maybe you should take the log out of your own eye first.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

I no more want to see public proclamations about not having sex than I do public proclamations about having sex. Both TMI.

AMEN!!!!! IMO that is insane to even consider something like that. What sane person goes around proclaiming their sexual activity?

 

[Granny square]

Lol, plenty of people go around proclaiming that and more. Who cares what people want to express or not?

Last time I looked , they didn't say "virgin" on them. They are merely sometimes declare a personal lifestyle choice

 

[LongLiveDisney]

Lol, plenty of people go around proclaiming that and more. Who cares what people want to express or not?

That's why I'm a little shocked at the hypocricy of some of the posts on this thread.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

Lol, plenty of people go around proclaiming that and more. Who cares what people want to express or not?

I get what you are saying but imo having young children especially proclaiming whether or not they are/want to have sex to a group etc. is simply innappropriate. Of course I would have a huge problem with the church discussing such things with my children. That imo is the job of the parents. Of course I am Roman Catholic and don't think my kids need to take sex advice from someone who has taken a vow of a lifetime of abstinence. JMHO.

 

[SplashMtnCrew]

Cannot believe this thread is still open. Shame.

 

[Granny square]

I don't see 11 as a little child because we did the big sex talks here around 10. (Covered as needed before then). And we don't do purity rings.

But I don't have a problem with people expressing their thoughts, opinions, or plans.

I'm not calling hypocrite. I don't know anyone well enough to go there!!! But I wonder if the same people have issues with other manners of expression of personal stuff.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

I don't see 11 as a little child because we did the big sex talks here around 10. (Covered as needed before then). And we don't do purity rings.

But I don't have a problem with people expressing their thoughts, opinions, or plans.

I'm not calling hypocrite. I don't know anyone well enough to go there!!! But I wonder if the same people have issues with other manners of expression of personal stuff.

I somewhat agree with you. I agree that 11 is not a baby but it is still pretty young. Sex talks in general imo should be decided by the parents. Not all parents feel their kids are ready for that talk at that age. That is their choice. I also don't have a problem with people expressing their thoughts, opinions, or plans either. I just think that a public proclamation of something of this manner coming from a child should be kept private. That's just how I feel about it. I personally think it is a matter of self respect that you don't announce such things to a room full of people. If you want to confide in a close friend or family member then I get that. Telling the whole youth group? No way. I also say that as someone who was heavily involved in church youth group through high school. JMHO.

 

[luvsJack]

I make that choice because one's sex life, or lack there of, should be private. JMO. But I won't try to pass laws to or constitutional amendments to prevent others from making their choice.

I wasn't aware that i was trying to pass any laws. would you like to elaborate?

 

[luvsJack]

Divorced parents are giving their daughters commitment rings. Ironic , isn't it!!

Colleen, I knew the answer. I just knew the ones pushing the rings on the girls would not admit the doubt standard.

I am married to dd's father. and if you are referring to my sons vs my daughter i answered that upthead. No double standard. And no one is pushing anything.

I don't claim to be perfect. No Christian does. Only forgiven

 

[chobie]

I don't see 11 as a little child because we did the big sex talks here around 10. (Covered as needed before then). And we don't do purity rings.

But I don't have a problem with people expressing their thoughts, opinions, or plans.

I'm not calling hypocrite. I don't know anyone well enough to go there!!! But I wonder if the same people have issues with other manners of expression of personal stuff.

I, personally, have no problem with wedding rings, crosses, Stars of David, etc even though they are proclaiming something.

There was a time when supposedly kids wearing different colored bracelets that stood for what sex acts they had or will perform. I find that gross. Don't want to know if you are having sex or if you are not having sex.

Is that hypocritical?

 

[chobie]

I wasn't aware that i was trying to pass any laws. would you like to elaborate?

You made a comment about the rings being people's choice. I took that mean you thought I didn't think people should be allowed to make that choice. I don't think that, but I do have an opinion about that choice, as do you and every other person who has commented on this thread.

 

[Momvic5]

Teens are wearing purity rings, and moms are wearing red hot love beads!! Oh, the proclamations!!

 

[nathalee81]

It is so fitting that I am catching up on this thread and watching Easy A at the same time...

 

[Pigeon]

Lol, people are funny. They aren't chastity belts. They may not actually change behavior but they cause no harm.

They do cause harm. See the previously cited research showing that teens who take these pledges tend to have higher rates of unprotected sex than those who do not.

 

[luvsJack]

As I said upthread, I've yet to see a young man wearing a purity ring. Even the brothers of the girls who wear them don't, and the impression I get is still of a double standard. Abstinence is promoted to both genders, but with more of a wink and a grin at the boys while the girls get hellfire and brimstone.

Because they are. The OP's post came because her DD went to a youth group event promoting the ring, and parents weren't even warned in advance. I see that a lot around here too. In fact, teens that belong to churches that promote purity rings and vows are encouraged to bring friends to those events to "spread the word".

The Op wasn't aware doesn't mean the other parents weren't. i know ahead of time what every youth meeting dd goes to is about. Teaching is not promoting or forcing or
influencing ; its teaching. thats what youth groups do they teach.

As for your comments about boys vs girls; you are making an assumption on something that you know nothing about.

 

[luvsJack]

You made a comment about the rings being people's choice. I took that mean you thought I didn't think people should be allowed to make that choice. I don't think that, but I do have an opinion about that choice, as do you and every other person who has commented on this thread.

Ok. I did not mean that at all but ok.

Am I the poster you are in a heated argument with? Honestly i wasn't aware that it was heated. That wasn't my intention.

 

[luvsJack]

They do cause harm. See the previously cited research showing that teens who take these pledges tend to have higher rates of unprotected sex than those who do not.

The ring and its meaning in of themselves do not case harm. its the lack of teaching the rest of the info teens need that cause harm. Imho