DD injured on splash mtn-update p16

[3DisneyNUTS]

So should there be seatbelts on all rides? Lockable seatbelts that riders cannot unbuckle on their own? What if a teenager unbelted themself on Dumbo and fell off? Is that Disney's fault for making it possible for someone to act like a dip? Should we all be locked in on every ride just to prevent morons from being morons?

First of all I my son is developementally delayed and you throwing aorund every derogatory remark to describe a kid who may have made a bad choice is really offensive.

Secondly Splash mountain has a huge dip in it. Yes I think that ride needs seatbelts. And no I am not saying EVERY ride needs seatbelts. Stop being so dramatic!

 

[grimley1968]

Obviously if she did indeed stand up. I don't think the parents being there would have made a difference. Even on the ride with her she could have chosen to do this. a seatbelt could prevent this from happening.

We should also make sure WDW puts seatbelts on the CoP ride. A kid could always jump up and run away from his parents and get his hand wedged between the show platform and the moving audience platform. While we're at it, let's put seat belts on IASW, Pirates and the TTA, all rides with far less restraint than Splash already has.

Of course I'm being facetious above. Count me among those who support following all the clearly stated rules (no standing on rides) and using common sense versus unnecessary restraints for 99.999% of the population who understand and follow the rules (or properly supervise those who don't).

 

[tiggersmom2]

Now this...AH HA!!!!! the girl stood up on the ride. SEE it is all her fault! WHo cares if she was hurt she deserves it right? Foolish teen how dare the parents expect even a ride to the hopital? It was their stupid kid who stood on the ride.

It is completely discouraging how people need to bash the victim. Especially on a Disney board! How would have Walt reacted to this girls injury on his property?

If the girl did indeed stand up on the ride then WDW should not be expected to compensate this family for the girl's stupidity!

In fact if she was STUPID enough to do that.....it would serve them right if they got a bill from WDW for the time it took them to take apart the log and extricate the girl.

I for one do not believe WDW to be in the wrong. I know when I was 22 the moving belt at Spaceship Earth abruptly stopped and I fell, hitting my head on the floor in the process. Never once did I proclaim it to be WDW's fault...it was just an accident. Well they gave my hubby and me a one day pass to EPCOT....WDW always rectifies their mistakes.

 

[lillygator]

well I guess now questioning = bashing....

 

[lillygator]

let's all play nice - I would like to hear that the father managed to salvage the vacation, they had a great time, etc....

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

If the girl did indeed stand up on the ride then WDW should not be expected to compensate this family for the girl's stupidity!

In fact if she was STUPID enough to do that.....it would serve them right if they got a bill from WDW for the time it took them to take apart the log and extricate the girl.

I for one do not believe WDW to be in the wrong. I know when I was 22 the moving belt at Spaceship Earth abruptly stopped and I fell, hitting my head on the floor in the process. Never once did I proclaim it to be WDW's fault...it was just an accident. Well they gave my hubby and me a one day pass to EPCOT....WDW always rectifies their mistakes.

Just them reaching out to you guys and giving you Epcot tickets impacted your decision on how it was handled. If they would have done that for this father maybe he wouldn't be on here complaining how he feels Disney did nothing for them. It is good business sense to make the customer know you care. God look at the threads this one negative incident spurred. A positive would not even get this much.

 

[kimmikayb]

let's all play nice - I would like to hear that the father managed to salvage the vacation, they had a great time, etc....

I agree and I've said that all along.

I'd also like to know if this is something to do with the ride so I can prepare my family in the future.

 

[MosMom]

If I was throwing around derogatory remarks for someone who was devopmentally delayed, there are plenty of other words to use. This girl was not developmentally delayed so perhaps the drama should be curbed all around. Should I say "Wow, that girl was a smart cookie for standing up in a moving ride vehicle!"?

I think we could all agree that Dumbo is a tame ride. Yet, it is very easy to jump out of it if you would like to. Should there be high tech seat belts on that ride that prevent someone from jumping out? Where do we draw the line on protecting people from themselves?

 

[cxcelica]

Yes but making the parent pay in advance opens up the situation where the treatment may get delayed and injuries get reported later. In this situation obviously the parents didn't care about the med bills they have insurance so the girl got care. BUT I think it is in Disney's best interest to pay for the bills to get an accurate account of the injuries sustained on their property. It doesn't admit fault if they did. I also think it is only right to pay the bills anytime someone is hurt on your property.

Do you own your own house?? If you do I would love to see how you would feel if someone walks on your sidewalk and trips. It happened on your propety you should pay.

Next question...You say Disney should pay for the medical bills upfront. Let me ask this question. What if it turns out that it was not Disney's fault at all, what is Disney to sue the family to get their money back. Should Disney have cast members with check books running around and everytime someone falls write them out a check.

Thirdly, if you are foolish enough to stand up on a ride when you know you are not supposed to and could get seriously hurt, will a seatbelt really stop you. "Well I really wanted to stand up, but because this simple belt contrapation has me so befuddled I cant do it"

 

[perdidobay]

First, no matter whose fault the injury is, I hope the girl is doing ok and enjoys the rest of her trip.

However, this whole save the foolish from themselves comments, reminds me when there was a woman several years ago that demanded the park service fence off the "dangerous" animals and the "dangerous" hot springs from the public at Yellowstone........it just seems to me the laziest people in a society don't want to take any responsibility for their own actions, no matter what the cost to others, or how outlandish. Makes me sad for the future.....

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

If I was throwing around derogatory remarks for someone who was devopmentally delayed, there are plenty of other words to use. This girl was not developmentally delayed so perhaps the drama should be curbed all around.

I think we could all agree that Dumbo is a tame ride. Yet, it is very easy to jump out of it if you would like to. Should there be high tech seat belts on that ride that prevent someone from jumping out? Where do we draw the line on protecting people from themselves?

Just for the record calling a person idiot, stupid or a moron refers to them as having a mental handicap. Just because everyone got desensitized to saying these words freely doesn't mean the impact of those words don't affect the people who unfortunately have a mental handicap or live with a person who is. So using the term to describe a typical teen is just as offensive as desribing a person who is disabaled with the same or similar terms.

The dumbo ride cannot be compared to SM. Jumping out of it is extremely different to what this girl allegedly did. Splash mountain has a huge hill. I am 6'1' and catch air when we go down that hill. IMO they should have seatbelts especially for the younger riders.

 

[undertheradar]

The amazing thing about this is that none of us will ever know all of the facts. To suggest that Disney should cover all of the medical expenses without any hesitation is just plain insane. The are many people out there looking for the lawsuit that will put them on "easy street." I'm not saying that the OP is doing this, as I do not know the OP. With the time delays involved here, the kids were probably upset and I'm sure that the MK cms were surprised to find that there were no adults with these kids. The emts then have to wait until the parent arrives and gave them the option of seeking further treatment or not. OP's wife decides to seek further treatment and OP returns to room with other kids. 4am, DSD and wife return to BWV and OP phones people demanding action. Obviously, the offices that handle these things are not open at 4am. OP is given claim information and a timeline that WDW anticipates. OP, being impatient, creates further obstacles by contacting numerous offices and is unhappy with Disney not granting everything he wants. OP came on these boards seeking names of individuals to contact, advice on contacting the news media and the possibility of a lawyer. The OP is then upset that Disney was not being pro-active. Once "lawyer" is mentioned, most companies have specific policies that employees must follow, Disney is no exception. IMHO, this is a case of someone crying wolf, rather than being patient. Disney has it's own process for these things and the OP should be exercising patience. If the DSD did indeed stand up during the ride, she put herself and any other riders in a dangerous situation. I'm wondering how the hospital provided treatment without the wife having her wallet with her(purse was in room)?

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

Do you own your own house?? If you do I would love to see how you would feel if someone walks on your sidewalk and trips. It happened on your propety you should pay.

Next question...You say Disney should pay for the medical bills upfront. Let me ask this question. What if it turns out that it was not Disney's fault at all, what is Disney to sue the family to get their money back. Should Disney have cast members with check books running around and everytime someone falls write them out a check.

Thirdly, if you are foolish enough to stand up on a ride when you know you are not supposed to and could get seriously hurt, will a seatbelt really stop you. "Well I really wanted to stand up, but because this simple belt contrapation has me so befuddled I cant do it"

Yes I own a house. Last year at my son's birthday party a child slipped off the ladder to our pool and knocked a tooth out. We offered to pay the bills but the parent refused. She had insurance but that offer alone showed we cared. Plus we invited them to our home imo it is our responsibility to pay since her child was hurt here.


Yes I think Disney should pay the medical bills when a guest is hurt in their park.

The seatbelt in addition to being an obstacle to standing will also let the rider know there are drops that are severe enough to need a belt. That would make someone think twice about taking it off and standing in the ride IMO. The lack of seatbelt implies that the drops are not that severe

 

[MosMom]

If those words offended you, I apologize. It doesn't necessarily refer to that though...the definitions also point to acting stupid or foolishly.

 

[cxcelica]

let me ask another question then...lets say the boy was jumping off the roof of your garage into your pool and gets hurt....are you still going to pay no matter.....what if he is incurs $300,000 in medical bills are you still going to be so eager to pay.

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

If those words offended you, I apologize. It doesn't necessarily refer to that though...the definitions also point to acting stupid or foolishly.

Thanks I know I sound rough and it is just how I type IRL I explain myself much less blunt I just hate typing so much hense the typeo's and misspellings.

I know that was not your intent. I am sorry I was so rough.

Well off to take my procratinating butt into the shower. My husband complains I do nothing around the house on my days off and he is right I am sitting on disboards for hours LOL.

 

[kimmikayb]

Yes I own a house. Last year at my son's birthday party a child slipped off the ladder to our pool and knocked a tooth out. We offered to pay the bills but the parent refused. She had insurance but that offer alone showed we cared. Plus we invited them to our home imo it is our responsibility to pay since her child was hurt here.


Yes I think Disney should pay the medical bills when a guest is hurt in their park.

The seatbelt in addition to being an obstacle to standing will also let the rider know there are drops that are severe enough to need a belt. That would make someone think twice about taking it off and standing in the ride IMO. The lack of seatbelt implies that the drops are not that severe

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the cost of park admission be severly too high for most people if Disney paid for all accidents that happen there? We own a small business and our liability insurance is outrageous. I hate to guess what Disney pays, which always affects our admission price.

 

[PlutoLuvr]

When you do something stupid, you cease being a victim. It is called personal accountability.

I strongly disagree with this statement.

What about a girl at a college party who had too much to drink, danced a little provocatively and got gang-raped? She's not a victim? Stupid, yes...victim, YES.

What about a woman taking her child home late in the afternoon who's on her cell phone, drunk driver slams into car and kills child, paralyzes mom? Mom is stupid for being on the phone while driving, but still very much a victim.

How about the business traveler who is lost in an unfamiliar city, who takes an exit off the expressway in what he soon finds out to be a bad neighborhood, gets robbed, carjacked and beaten to a pulp? The assailants don't need to be prosecuted because the victim made a stupid decision to get off where he did?

These are just three of the criminal cases I'm working on for appeal. Do you think these guys should be set free to roam the streets simply because the victims made a stupid decision?

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

I strongly disagree with this statement.

What about a girl at a college party who had too much to drink, danced a little provocatively and got gang-raped? She's not a victim? Stupid, yes...victim, YES.

What about a woman taking her child home late in the afternoon who's on her cell phone, drunk driver slams into car and kills child, paralyzes mom? Mom is stupid for being on the phone while driving, but still very much a victim.

How about the business traveler who is lost in an unfamiliar city, who takes an exit off the expressway in what he soon finds out to be a bad neighborhood, gets robbed, carjacked and beaten to a pulp? The assailants don't need to be prosecuted because the victim made a stupid decision to get off where he did?

These are just three of the criminal cases I'm working on for appeal. Do you think these guys should be set free to roam the streets simply because the victims made a stupid decision?

wow are you a lawyer? What would Disney's responsibility be in this case if she did stand? What if it were a design flaw and her foot got wedged?

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

[wow are you a lawyer? What would Disney's responsibility be in this case if she did stand? What if it were a design flaw and her foot got wedged?

And that poor family with losing their child gosh all those cases are brutal. How is everyone now? I am sure the poor mother is beating herself up everyday