DAS for party of 9?

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I have read that a DAS for a large party is possible and all have to be at GS for approval. But does the relationship have to be of a particular kind like Grandma and Grandpa?

We usually travel with just the 4 of us but this August we are traveling with my wife's sisters family and they have 3 kids.

I know my son is really looking forward to this special trip and riding with his cousins.

Should I even attempt it or just get it for 6 and 3 of us not ride?
 
If not having your party together when possible will not allow your child to have equal access equivalent to what a child without a disability would have then yes you can and should get one.
 
Nothing about the amount of people allowed on the DAS has anything to do with access for the disabled person - which is who the card is for.

I have read that a DAS for a large party is possible and all have to be at GS for approval. But does the relationship have to be of a particular kind like Grandma and Grandpa? We usually travel with just the 4 of us but this August we are traveling with my wife's sisters family and they have 3 kids. I know my son is really looking forward to this special trip and riding with his cousins. Should I even attempt it or just get it for 6 and 3 of us not ride?

You'll be fine. Just have everyone present when you initially get it. It doesn't have to be immediate family.
 
The CMs don't ask who the people are, just how many. At WDW, for more than 6, you will need to all be present, as was already mentioned.

If you haven't checked it out, there is a DAS thread near the top of this board (one for WDW and one for Disneyland). The first post in each thread is a DAS FAQs.
 

If not having your party together when possible will not allow your child to have equal access equivalent to what a child without a disability would have then yes you can and should get one.

I agree that the OP should get the DAS for all 9 guests, but the size of the party has nothing to do with equal access to the attraction for the disabled person. Disney can and does split the party up on separate DAS cards if there is more than one DAS card per family, as they should.
 
I agree that the OP should get the DAS for all 9 guests, but the size of the party has nothing to do with equal access to the attraction for the disabled person. Disney can and does split the party up on separate DAS cards if there is more than one DAS card per family, as they should.

Splitting up a party can have a major impact on some children with disability and can create anxiety and meltdowns to the point where the child can not gain access that other children can. Certainly there are many rides where by the nature of the ride the family will be split up at some level and at some point, but each child is unique and how and when this split up occurs and if it occurs after a long time in line which creates anxiety has a major impact on equal access.

I would caution on making broad statements, unless you have extensive experience with all possible disabilities and their impacts.
 
I agree that the OP should get the DAS for all 9 guests, but the size of the party has nothing to do with equal access to the attraction for the disabled person. Disney can and does split the party up on separate DAS cards if there is more than one DAS card per family, as they should.

If there is more than 1 card per family, it should not split the party. If one person with the DAS has to leave the park, then the other person with the DAS can only have some of the remaining family with them which isn't right. This all depends on individual circumstances and the CM giving the DAS.
 
Splitting up a party can have a major impact on some children with disability and can create anxiety and meltdowns to the point where the child can not gain access that other children can. Certainly there are many rides where by the nature of the ride the family will be split up at some level and at some point, but each child is unique and how and when this split up occurs and if it occurs after a long time in line which creates anxiety has a major impact on equal access. I would caution on making broad statements, unless you have extensive experience with all possible disabilities and their impacts.

.... Ok. It still has nothing to do with ADA required ACCESS for the disabled family member. While Disney does allow the whole party to be on the DAS they are well within their rights to put a limit on it since the ONLY person they're required to specially accommodate is the disabled party member.

Just like being in a crowd could cause a meltdown - Disney can't make everything perfect for everyone, but they definitely try to make it the best they can while adhering to ADA requirements.
 
If there is more than 1 card per family, it should not split the party. If one person with the DAS has to leave the park, then the other person with the DAS can only have some of the remaining family with them which isn't right. This all depends on individual circumstances and the CM giving the DAS.

They typically split it in a way to accommodate that.

Example, a family of 4 getting slit 2/2 would be fine since 1 parent would obviously to back to the room with the child. If there's more people they'd figure it out to make it work. But they're splitting people because of guests trying to get two cards with the full party to double up in the ride return times.... So combating cheaters.... Again.
 
Splitting up a party can have a major impact on some children with disability and can create anxiety and meltdowns to the point where the child can not gain access that other children can. Certainly there are many rides where by the nature of the ride the family will be split up at some level and at some point, but each child is unique and how and when this split up occurs and if it occurs after a long time in line which creates anxiety has a major impact on equal access.

I would caution on making broad statements, unless you have extensive experience with all possible disabilities and their impacts.
WDW is required to make reasonable accommodations not necessarily what the person considers the perfect accommodation.
They can limit the number of guests that the DAS card can be used with. And, there are situations, because of how boarding is set up, where people will need to split. For example, a DAS user who needs the accessible boarding area at Toy Story Midway Mania with group of more than 6 will be split at the Fastpass merge point with the regular line. This is because that boarding area doesn't accommodate more than 6 in the accessible car. It doesn't matter how many the DAS says, that is how many can be accommodated there.

Some people may want more guests on their DAS card, but what is reasonable?
With GAC, we were waiting to get on the Magic Carpets of Aladdin when a group came up with a GAC for 6 people - but they were arguing with the CM that their whole group needed to go on with their son to avoid a meltdown from being separated from his extended family.
The CM said they could only allow the number on the GAC. The people argued quite a long time for their whole party, but the CM did not back down.
The child and 5 others finally did go on and he did just fine with the rest of the group watching. Their group was something like 15, so their whole group would have taken up a large amount of capacity of the ride.
So where do you draw the line?
Some people would say they need a DAS for 20, but that is not reasonable. Disney has set an upper limit for DAS for both WDW and DL, which they feel is reasonable taking into account park operations and needs.

Even with 20, they would still be split up at times. If there are attractions where they don't want to be split, there are other options besides DAS. For example, the whole group could get Fastpasses for those attractions.
And, there is no requirement that every single thing be accessible if it is not reasonable. For example, Swiss Fsmily Robinson Treehouse is only accessible to people who can do stairs.
The Teacups are not accessible to people who can't do spinning.
So, there are limits to accommodation.
They typically split it in a way to accommodate that.

Example, a family of 4 getting slit 2/2 would be fine since 1 parent would obviously to back to the room with the child. If there's more people they'd figure it out to make it work. But they're splitting people because of guests trying to get two cards with the full party to double up in the ride return times.... So combating cheaters.... Again.
Exactly - it was not too long after the change to DAS when people started posting on the internet that getting 2 DAS cards allowed them to get double the DAS Return Times or double the number of people. So, Disney made a change to discourage abuse.

How the card is split is up to the guest - Disney doesn't say half on one card and half on the other. They can split the number however it would work best for the guest.
People have done that because one DAS holder may go back earlier, but also if one has very different interests than the other - for example, someone who loves roller coasters and one who hates them.
If they all want to go on an attraction together, each DAS holder gets a Return Time for that attraction.
 
Question has been answered, so I am closing at this point.
If you want more information, see the WDW or DL DAS thread near the top of this board.
 
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