DAS changes coming WDW May 20/ DL June 18, 2024

Here are some of the reports I've read of people getting approved:
-a 14 month old
-someone with PPD
-someone with PTSD
-someone with unknown diagnosis who states they will get physically confrontational with others in line
-depression
Again, someone just reading a few sentences from someone on the internet and taking it as the word of God. Neither you nor I knows what happened in those conversations. Some people maybe don’t want to share details because they don’t want others using their information to try to lie and get DAS. Others may just not feel comfortable and only share part of their experience. None of us truly know.
 
I, for one, believe that Disney is a private company therefore within their rights to make decisions on how their parks will run. Besides, anyone is free to submit their feedback to Disney using various means of communication including the disabilities email address. I don't come to this forum to join a crusade. I come to gather information to make decisions and manage my expectations of going to parks with a disabled family member.
100%. Honestly DAS could be discontinued at any point too. Gather information and have multiple back up plans.
 
100%. Honestly DAS could be discontinued at any point too. Gather information and have multiple back up plans.
I still say planning is your best friend. DAS is not going to go back to the free-for-all. Will Disney offer other accommodations? Maybe.. but DAS is not going to be it.

What does anyone have to lose by trying the new accommodations and pairing them with rope drops and and LL 's? DAS is not some be all end all fix it.
 
You realize this is a theme park right? DAS is only for lines. How do you navigate the rest of Disney or anywhere else for that matter?

Giving DAS to everyone who said they NEEDED it in the past caused problems for disabled and non disabled people. Unfortunately there are far too many people who think they NEED DAS that it had to be changed. Now it is only being used for a small portion of disabled people. Everyone else is offered other accommodations. We all also have the option of purchasing LLMP, going at slower times, going at rope drop, end of night, after parties, etc.
I do realise it's a theme park and we navigate it by managing the risks as we do in other areas of life - otherwise we would have to stay at home all day - and that's no life
 

I do realise it's a theme park and we navigate it by managing the risks as we do in other areas of life - otherwise we would have to stay at home all day - and that's no life
I hear you. We all must navigate how to deal with our issues. So can you take any of techniques and use them also in line (if needed)? Can the person who has the disability wait outside the line while other wait in the line then meet up at the merge? Just trying to offer alternatives that might work for you.
 
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Our oldest was approved under the old guidelines and has also been approved under the new guidelines. He's neurodivergent. When we call, we don't divulge his actual diagnoses, just how DAS helps him in line. If there comes a time that he doesn't need DAS, we would actually be happy because that means all of the hard work put in by us, his teachers, his specials, and the admins has paid off. That would be a HUGE win.

We request DAS for two reasons. One is for our son. The other is for everyone else who would have to be around him waiting in line.

I get DAS evokes a lot of emotions, but let’s be kind and empathetic. The world needs more kindness and empathy. Everyone on these boards wants to be on the receiving end of both, so let’s choose to provide both to others. Solidarity, folks…

And always extend kindness to the CMs. Not only are they human, but they are also major provisioners of the magic.
 
Agree there haven't been a lot of reports of how to exit the queue with a scooter. HOWEVER, there also are not a lot of reports of people on a scooter stuck in the queue, having accidents or meltdowns or panic attacks or whatever. So... either they are managing to get out of the queue when necessary without significant issue. Or they've discovered they didn't really need to wait outside every queue anyway. Which is exactly what Disney is trying to do -- remove those "sometimes" needs to an alternative accommodation.
I went to star wars night, walked on rise of the resistance, but then it broke down so I was trapped in that cave my husband tried to get me out but there was a scooter behind us snd we couldn’t get out, i was ill i was about to send my husband to the front for help but then they exited the whole line. if i was in ll i wouldve been on the outside and couldve gotten out. i had it happen on buzz i had to wait for merge on buzz and it took 50 minutes, i was laid up in pain the next day had to cancel plans. ive had friends with similar experiences. im doing physicallly better now so i think i could abandon my scooter and walk out if i had to now eith my cane, but it was very upsetting to be in these situations snd trapped. Now i wont do some rides without purchasing LL because not worth risk for me.
 
I went to star wars night, walked on rise of the resistance, but then it broke down so I was trapped in that cave my husband tried to get me out but there was a scooter behind us snd we couldn’t get out, i was ill i was about to send my husband to the front for help but then they exited the whole line. if i was in ll i wouldve been on the outside and couldve gotten out. i had it happen on buzz i had to wait for merge on buzz and it took 50 minutes, i was laid up in pain the next day had to cancel plans. ive had friends with similar experiences. im doing physicallly better now so i think i could abandon my scooter and walk out if i had to now eith my cane, but it was very upsetting to be in these situations snd trapped. Now i wont do some rides without purchasing LL because not worth risk for me.
OK, but DAS shouldn’t be granted for “just in case”
 
OK, but DAS shouldn’t be granted for “just in case”
Exactly. And this is what I think the biggest issue was that precipitated the changes.

Lots of people “might” have issues in line. My daughter has Ulcerative Colitis - she “might” have a bathroom need in line. But many times she doesn’t. People get overheated or feel anxious in a line, but not always. And those things - bathroom needs, overheating, anxiety in crowds - are often present outside the line as well. So general problems that make a theme park hard won’t qualify for DAS anymore because those issues may or may not happen and, if they do, they happen anywhere.
 
Exactly. And this is what I think the biggest issue was that precipitated the changes.

Lots of people “might” have issues in line. My daughter has Ulcerative Colitis - she “might” have a bathroom need in line. But many times she doesn’t. People get overheated or feel anxious in a line, but not always. And those things - bathroom needs, overheating, anxiety in crowds - are often present outside the line as well. So general problems that make a theme park hard won’t qualify for DAS anymore because those issues may or may not happen and, if they do, they happen anywhere.
Exactly! I kind of break it down as caused by the line v. happens/might happen in the line.
 
The workaround I have seen posted is to turn off your phone location & switch your country of residence in the MDE App to "USA." Doesn't seem illegal.
From what I’ve seen - because it has to be done via the app you have to use a GPS spoofer which seems to be very much a grey area.
 
OK, but DAS shouldn’t be granted for “just in case”

OK, but DAS shouldn’t be granted for “just in case”
I don’t qualify for DAS, Im just pointing out the accommodation is return to queue which doesn’t work for me. im ok i already self accommodate by buying LL for the problematic rides or not riding.
 
I hear you. We all must navigate how to deal with our issues. So can you take any of techniques and use them also in line (if needed)? Can the person who has the disability wait outside the line while other wait in the line then meet up at the merge? Just trying to offer alternatives that might work for you.
In order to mitigate the risk we don’t get into queues which are more than 30 minutes. Yes I can wait in the queue while he waits outside (could be a bit stressful organising the meet up as WiFi in the park isn’t always great) but that does mean I could pick up some bugs and pass the on which isn’t ideal.
 
In order to mitigate the risk we don’t get into queues which are more than 30 minutes. Yes I can wait in the queue while he waits outside (could be a bit stressful organising the meet up as WiFi in the park isn’t always great) but that does mean I could pick up some bugs and pass the on which isn’t ideal.
I know you don’t like the answer, but DAS simply isn’t a feasible accommodation for the endless multitude of “might/could/mayne” issues that guests have.
 
I know you don’t like the answer, but DAS simply isn’t a feasible accommodation for the endless multitude of “might/could/mayne” issues that guests have.
We simply wouldn’t take the risk - last visit we got into a virtual queue which we didn’t realise could be over an hour - ended up in hospital with flu.
I wonder who you think DAS might be appropriate for - if anyone.
 
In order to mitigate the risk we don’t get into queues which are more than 30 minutes. Yes I can wait in the queue while he waits outside (could be a bit stressful organising the meet up as WiFi in the park isn’t always great) but that does mean I could pick up some bugs and pass the on which isn’t ideal.
IIRC the disability that was your family’s reason for DAS eligibility before the changes is that he is immunocompromised. His immune system is weak and cannot fight infectious diseases and cancer.

What I do not understand is why you think DAS is an appropriate accommodation for this disability?

An airborne virus can hang in the air for 8, 10, or 15 minutes or more depending on air movement and the virus. In human to human transmission, someone could have coughed or sneezed ahead of you in line well before you reached that point and you would not have any knowledge that it happened. It takes a split second to breathe in a micro organism that could become fatal for a severely immunocompromised person. It is irrelevant if there is 30 minutes in a line or 90 minutes. Once that virus is inhales the host body is subject to infection. The same for droplet transmissions. Those droplets can travel, survive a surprisingly long time on surfaces like handrails and are present all around us in crowds; not just in the standby lines of Disney parks. If he is that immunocompromised, just standing on Main Street in MK is a big risk. So, I do not understand what, if any effective accommodation any crowded theme park anywhere can offer. It certainly is not DAS which is just using shorter queue lines to ride headliner attractions. Maybe the effective accommodation is not to go to intensely crowded areas? A crowded theme park cannot offer any effective accommodation to fully ameliorate the risk to a severely immunocompromised person. The defenses for that are PPE or a hazmat suit. Not DAS.
 
We simply wouldn’t take the risk - last visit we got into a virtual queue which we didn’t realise could be over an hour - ended up in hospital with flu.
I wonder who you think DAS might be appropriate for - if anyone.
For people whose issues with their disabilities are caused by the line itself - I’ve been pretty clear about that, long before Disney made the recent changes, in fact.
 
In order to mitigate the risk we don’t get into queues which are more than 30 minutes. Yes I can wait in the queue while he waits outside (could be a bit stressful organising the meet up as WiFi in the park isn’t always great) but that does mean I could pick up some bugs and pass the on which isn’t ideal.
Once again, coming to a theme park is inherently risky for someone who is immunocompromised. The risk doesn’t just exist in lines. There are many situations where you could be near someone with an illness for 20+ minutes besides in lines, but yet you still choose to focus only on lines. No one is saying your husband should stay home and have no life. But there are many other things he could do that are lower risk that still let him enjoy life. He is making the decision to go to a theme park knowing the enhanced risk, and Disney has made the decision that it DAS is no longer an accommodation available to him.
 

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