DAS Card Mobility Issues

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So, to make this as quick and easy as possible:

I've got a total party of six.

2 adults who recently had back surgery for herniated disks (able to walk fine, but standing in one place for periods of time for long lines is going to be a problem)
1 adult with two (recovering) sprained ankles
2 kids
1 final adult, but she is in no shape to be pushing the other adults around in a wheelchair

My concern is, if we rent a scooter, there are still some rides that we will have to transfer into a wheelchair just for the queue, and as I've stated, there's no one to push that wheelchair.

With two adults unable to stand in long lines, I'm wondering what my options are.

Do we qualify for a DAS card? I know they don't usually give those out for mobility issues, but I'm not sure how else to keep our party together as we enjoy the parks.

Any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!
 
The adults who cannot stand for long periods of time should consider bringing rollators - there are few places to sit, and if an ECV won't do, at least they'd have a seat with the rollator.

There's very little actual standing in most queues, IMO. With that large of a group, you can have a buffer zone for some space for pacing, if need be.

Also, avoid those shows/attractions where the show is all standing if they won't do rollators or ECVs - some of the films in the World Showcase, etc. There's no place to sit.
 

In general, they don't issue DAS for disabilities that are strictly mobility related because the best accommodation is being able to use a mobility device in line, which doesn't require DAS. The guests would need to be able to explain why a mobility device doesn't meet their needs and plan that they very well might not be issued DAS.

Agree that rollators might work well for them.
It would give some support for walking or standing plus a place to sit whenever they need to.
As you noticed, some attractions are not ECV accessible. All are accessible to ECVs and rollators.
I'm not sure if the person with the ankle injuries would be able to manage without an ECV; it really depends on the injuries.

Keep in mind that you will have your 3 Fastpasses you can pre-arrange. I'd suggest choosing use those for either attractions that normally have long waits or ones where the lines are not ECV accessible. You can tell from the listing in MDE or the park maps. The attractions with a wheelchair icon are accessible to both ECVs and wheelchairs. The ones that show a stick figure moving from an ECV to a wheelchair require a transfer.

This is the information copied from the disABILITIES FAQs thread about attractions that require standing. Using DAS would not affect that; there is just no place to sit unless you have mobility device:

Many attractions involve a preshow or a wait in a 'holding area' for 10-15 minutes or more. Those are often shows that have guests 'collect' in a prehow area while another 'set' of guests is in the show. Once the first guests leave the theater, the doors open for the next set of guests who are waiting in the preshow area.
Having a DAS (Disability Access Service) card will not prevent you from standing in those situations. Most of the areas have a very few or no seats at all and you have to wait in the preshow area to get into the show.
Some examples of places where you would have to stand - DAS or not would be:
Studio
Great Movie Ride
Muppet Vision 3D
Voyage of the Little Mermaid
One Man's Dream (This is a walking tour)
Twilight Zone Tower of Terror

Magic Kingdom
Railroad - there is not a preshow, but the train has to come to the station for you to board it.
Tiki Room
Hall of Presidents
Haunted Mansion
Country Bear Jamboree
Mickey's Philharmagic
Monster's Inc. Laugh Floor
Stitch's Great Escape
Enchanted Tales With Belle - the first part of the experience is about a 2 minute introduction to the story while standing in Belle's father's workshop. The second part is standing in the wardrobe room for about 5 minutes while roles are assigned for play parts. There is no place to sit for either of these. Guests are seated on backless padded benches for the remainder of the show.

Epcot
Ellen's Energy Adventure
Mission Space
Test Track
Circle of Life (Movie at The Land)
Soarin'
American Adventure
Reflections of China (a 14 minute movie that has no seats, just rails to lean against)
O Canada (a 14 minute move that has no seats, just rails to lean against

Animal Kingdom
It's Tough to Be a Bug
Festival of the Lion King (you will need to wait for the next show)
Wildlife Express Train (you will need to wait for the next train - they leave every 5-7 minutes)
Flights of Wonder (there may not be a place to sit when waiting for the next show)
Finding Nemo (you will be standing during your wait for the next show)

Having a wheelchair or ECV would give you a place to sit during those kinds of attractions and would also help you cover the distances for a WDW visit. Many people don't think about how much they walk in a day at WDW, but the average is at least 3 miles per day.
Many of the lines are very long distance to walk from the entrance to the actual boarding area. For example, Soarin is about 1/4 mile from the entrance to the line until the boarding area. There is an equal distance from the point you complete your flight until you get back out of the ride.
A DAS would not usually shorten the distance and the DAS is only used in lines and does nothing to help you get from place to place.
 
I too would look into getting a roller so they all be able to sit and walk when need be. there are other places where finding some where to sit maybe hard like pre show if a ride breaks down ( often they will not tell you how long or short and some times it is just 5 minutes) if they need to add another car on the track ( BTMRR) witch should just take 5 minutes but there have been times it has taken much longer. also busses or trams at the end of the day or monorail or fary boat. Also I have notice that there really is not a lot of places to just sit around disney ( almost like they want you to go buy food and sit and eat it) yes you can sit at a table but during busy times they will ask you to move for guest that have food. I have burned my self by sitting down because the ground was so hot ( not fun) so even if there is a place to sit you may not want to ( I now bring a hand towel for the summer months for just this resion.

you can go to GR and talk to them but more then likely they should tell you to rent a wheel chair that they will be able to push them selfs.

but really a mobility device ( and I am thinking they do not use them at home) would give them a place to sit for pre show a place to sit if they wanted to watch the parade a place to sit when just trying to decide what to do next, a place to sit while you get food or in line for food ( and with the set you can put the food on it and walk it to your table) a place to sit while waiting for the tram buss monorail fairy what ever after a long day at the park and if you use disney busses it would be sure to have a set as people with mobility devices load first and since they do not need to be tied down you can all go to gather and not have to write about if there are people inform of you with mobility devices.
 
Ellen's Energy Adventure has (had?) benches along the walls, or am I thinking of another show? And so did Circle of Life?
 
Ellen's Energy Adventure has (had?) benches along the walls, or am I thinking of another show? And so did Circle of Life?
Yes but very few like I think only maybe enough for 10% of the people waiting in the preshow pulse it is dark so you may have a hard time finding a place to sit
 
Single travelers who don't have a pusher aren't issued a DAS. I'd come up with a different plan. It'd be unlikely you'd get one for these reasons.
 
Also, a DAS will not help with parades, fireworks, restaurants, buses, monorails, boats, anything at the hotel (and they can be huge), street performers, or nighttime shows... it also does not help for a lot of theatre shows, like the American Adventure shows. The only thing a DAS will help with is the moving through the queue itself. In my experience, with a DAS you are even more likely to end up standing in one area waiting to be loaded. If there is an alternate entrance, often times you will end up waiting in a line that doesn't move terribly fast. I have a DAS and a wheelchair, so I am not sure what is because of the wc and what is because of the DAS... but it is not uncommon for me to be sent to an area to wait for 10 or 15 minutes - which is pretty standard for a FP return queue. But sometimes that 10 minutes is spent standing in the same spot, rather than walking.

The point is, even if you DID get a DAS (which is not certain), you will not necessarily be spared any standing.

And for things like Illuminations or the fireworks, there is nothing a DAS will do to help.

I would definitely look into either ECVs or rollators. There are not that many queues that cannot accept an ECV, so those may still work. If they are comfortable walking for a couple rides a day, then you may be able to handle that. Or look into rollators, which can go anywhere a wheelchair can.
 
Ellen's Energy Adventure has (had?) benches along the walls, or am I thinking of another show? And so did Circle of Life?
There are a few and if you are not coming in when the preshow is starting, chances are that they will be filled.
 
Regarding an earlier comment about a ride going down and the CMs leaving you standing there waiting...
Well, they have protocols in place, they won't leave guests standing in the queue long. If they aren't certain that they can bring the attraction up within a certain time frame (usually less than 15 minutes), they have to "dump the queue" which means empty it of all guests.
 
Regarding an earlier comment about a ride going down and the CMs leaving you standing there waiting...
Well, they have protocols in place, they won't leave guests standing in the queue long. If they aren't certain that they can bring the attraction up within a certain time frame (usually less than 15 minutes), they have to "dump the queue" which means empty it of all guests.
I almost do not want to replay to this but I have been in line for TT when the ride went down where they were putting us on the number to go into the the design stage the FP line was long for some resion I had been waiting for about 8 minutes when something happened to the ride the doors would open but no one in the room could move since the room infant of them was so full ( aperintly the ride had been down for a but before this I do not know for how long) after the doors on one side had opened twice we hard an ansment that the ride had gone down and they did not know how long it would be we had the chose to stay where we were or when could leave the line. I left the ride when out front and asked the CM for a DAS return time they gave me one I then sat down right by the ride and had lunch and checked my email I never saw a lot of people leaving in the 30 minutes I was sitting there ( I was sitting by the TT sign looking towards the ride so I would have saw people leaving, the ride never came back on so I left about an hour latter I did came back and the CM said the ride had just gotten back up and that I should wait for the FP line so that it would not be too long for me.

I have also been at 7DMT when they make the ansment when the ride goes down and they tell guest that they are welcome to stay this is loud enough that you can hear it just walking buy. and I have a friend that was just there yesterday that I was talking to last night she said that she waited in line for a ride for over an hour that went down and the CM never made her leave. but this is just 3 examples of what I have seen or heard form a very good friend.


I looked for this thread abut there was one not too long ago maybe 6 to 8 months that about someone that could walk but could not stand that long another poster was saying for that person to get a mobility device and use it was a walker and as something to site in then another poster came on and said that they were at AK ( I believe this was the park) when they back locked up they had no mobility device and they were left standing there in really bad pain while there husband when to look for help/ a wheelchair I believe this poster said they had to go back to the hotel to rest not sure for how long, also for the person with two sprinted ankles there is so much walking at disney that this along could aggravate the ankles one thing you may want to think about is just getting 2 wheel chair from an off site vender ( so they will be better and easer to push and you will have then the whole time) since no one needs them full time you could altanat who pusses who sits in then not sure if this makes since but it could work
 
I almost do not want to replay to this but I have been in line for TT when the ride went down where they were putting us on the number to go into the the design stage the FP line was long for some resion I had been waiting for about 8 minutes when something happened to the ride the doors would open but no one in the room could move since the room infant of them was so full ( aperintly the ride had been down for a but before this I do not know for how long) after the doors on one side had opened twice we hard an ansment that the ride had gone down and they did not know how long it would be we had the chose to stay where we were or when could leave the line. I left the ride when out front and asked the CM for a DAS return time they gave me one I then sat down right by the ride and had lunch and checked my email I never saw a lot of people leaving in the 30 minutes I was sitting there ( I was sitting by the TT sign looking towards the ride so I would have saw people leaving, the ride never came back on so I left about an hour latter I did came back and the CM said the ride had just gotten back up and that I should wait for the FP line so that it would not be too long for me.

I have also been at 7DMT when they make the ansment when the ride goes down and they tell guest that they are welcome to stay this is loud enough that you can hear it just walking buy. and I have a friend that was just there yesterday that I was talking to last night she said that she waited in line for a ride for over an hour that went down and the CM never made her leave. but this is just 3 examples of what I have seen or heard form a very good friend.


I looked for this thread abut there was one not too long ago maybe 6 to 8 months that about someone that could walk but could not stand that long another poster was saying for that person to get a mobility device and use it was a walker and as something to site in then another poster came on and said that they were at AK ( I believe this was the park) when they back locked up they had no mobility device and they were left standing there in really bad pain while there husband when to look for help/ a wheelchair I believe this poster said they had to go back to the hotel to rest not sure for how long, also for the person with two sprinted ankles there is so much walking at disney that this along could aggravate the ankles one thing you may want to think about is just getting 2 wheel chair from an off site vender ( so they will be better and easer to push and you will have then the whole time) since no one needs them full time you could altanat who pusses who sits in then not sure if this makes since but it could work

as I previously stated, they have protocols in place for when an attraction goes down. Talk to the nearest CM for clarification if you are unsure what you should do. In the event of a 101 (breakdown), there will probably even be members of mgt around to assist. Feel free to on ask in to speak to one of them as well if you need assistance.

And to others reading, please do not expect a CM to give you a return time on your DAS for an attraction that has gone down. They are not supposed to do that. They do not know for sure when the attraction will be operational again that day. It could be a half hour or it could be 3 hours or possibly not at all that day. So without knowing when it will be operational, how are they supposed to assign the return time??? Plus it will tie up your DAS until you use it for that attraction.
 
as I previously stated, they have protocols in place for when an attraction goes down. Talk to the nearest CM for clarification if you are unsure what you should do. In the event of a 101 (breakdown), there will probably even be members of mgt around to assist. Feel free to on ask in to speak to one of them as well if you need assistance.

And to others reading, please do not expect a CM to give you a return time on your DAS for an attraction that has gone down. They are not supposed to do that. They do not know for sure when the attraction will be operational again that day. It could be a half hour or it could be 3 hours or possibly not at all that day. So without knowing when it will be operational, how are they supposed to assign the return time??? Plus it will tie up your DAS until you use it for that attraction.
Thank you for reminding me the CM gave me a paper retrurn time to come back as I left a side door when I did leave and the CM was changing spots at the time if someone dose have a DAS card and a ride dose break down you can talk to the CM some times they will give you a hand written card as one CM put it for people with FP when a ride gose down you can use it any time. But this is not mandatory that CM di this but it can't hurt to ask
 
Ellen's Energy Adventure has (had?) benches along the walls

1) But, usually grabbed quickly by others, including kiddies.
2) I have seen kids siting while their parents standing nearby, and they wouldn't offer a seat to elderly adults or handicapped.
 












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