D23 EXPO 2019 Superthread - dates announced!

[dina444444]

This seems to be in line with current rumors. I'm still not sold on how the queue for Smuggler's Run is going to work with clearing the land, and still curious how time slots will be assigned, but I am glad they are trying to figure out something that will avoid chaos.

I wonder if it will be similar to Pandora preview where you got a return slip to enter the FOP queue but they didn't dump you out of the rest of the land after the time period was over.

 

[SoCalDisneyFan2708]

As much as it may suck to exclude people during this reservation period it makes total sense. As others pointed out, AP’s are the DLR’s primary attenders. After this initial “soft opening”, all but the top two pass types are blacked out of Disneyland for 3 months! So at least those lower level pass holders have a chance to experience SW:GE. Although the other news the OP talked about how there might not be many other spots available depending on how many hotel guests there are may keep all those AP’s in the dark anyway.

 

[Lesley Wake]

The more I think about it the more I think DLgal had the right idea -- he may have been told that the preview capacity will be "one eighth or ninth" of the park capacity (which would be around 9,500 to 10,600 people) and he just repeated it back as "eighty-ninth" when he talked to me. But even those numbers don't sound right if the plan is to not allow more people than can ride the Falcon. If the ride capacity is 1,800 per hour as reported, then a four hour block should see no more than 7,200 people admitted.

I did a number exercise (because I'm a geek).

Total number of official Disneyland hotel rooms: 2,490 (https://touringplans.com/disneyland-resort/hotels/number-rooms).
Approximate maximum number of people per night: 9,960 (assuming 4 people per room, which isn't necessarily correct, but may cancel out any rooms with 5 people vs rooms with less than 4 people)

I would guess maybe 1/2 of the guests each day will be using a "boarding pass": 4,980 (probably more in the first weekend since people may have done 1-night reservations).

That should still leave ~16,000 reservations for other people per day.

(Again, all of this speculation, I was just curious to run the numbers).

 

[SOCALMouseMommy]

As much as it may suck to exclude people during this reservation period it makes total sense. As others pointed out, AP’s are the DLR’s primary attenders. After this initial “soft opening”, all but the top two pass types are blacked out of Disneyland for 3 months! So at least those lower level pass holders have a chance to experience SW:GE. Although the other news the OP talked about how there might not be many other spots available depending on how many hotel guests there are may keep all those AP’s in the dark anyway.

Actually SoCal Select (the lowest pass) is blocked before SWGE opens on 5/31 and Southern California (the second lowest pass) gets just one day before they are blocked (5/31).

Deluxe (the third tier pass) is the only one of the lowest three levels that has any significant opportunity to visit SWGE in this initial opening phase before they are blocked after 6/20.

 

[agamble]

We're not current AP holders, but I would see why they would consider them before others. First, they need to do something for local AP curiosity. These local passholders desperately want to get into the land. And I would argue their desire, and especially their willingness to wait long hours, is greater than most out of town visitors. Besides it is common for Disney to do special access for AP, though it's been a while at DL. And they've done this before even though not all AP can get a reservation.

 

[gypsy_at_heart]

I just booked five days June 19th to to the 22nd. Premium view at the Disneyland Hotel was the cheapest option they had

There goes my tax refund

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

As an AP holder, I’m excited about the possibility of AP holders getting some priority. We can’t swing onsite, but have paid a lot for our APs. Guess time will tell.

FWIW, a friend booked onsite and was told they’d get their reservation time at check in.

 

[Malcon10t]

Disneyland has a theoretical capacity of 85,000 people.

The park holds somewhere around 85K people. I imagine the land can hold at minimum 5k people.

These numbers are off. Disneyland park capacity is closer to 54K depending on if everything / all walkways are open. California Adventure has a capacity in the neighborhood of 34K, with everything open, less right now with Bugsland closed. In the past, there have been "attendance" numbers given for Disneyland of 80K on NYE and such, but that is the number of new admits, not the number of people IN the park at one time.

If you look at the size of SW:GE on a map, and the size of DL, you can estimate the area will be about 10-15% of the current park. I would not think the area can handle more than 7-8000 people at a time.

 

[dieumeye]

These numbers are off. Disneyland park capacity is closer to 54K depending on if everything / all walkways are open. California Adventure has a capacity in the neighborhood of 34K, with everything open, less right now with Bugsland closed. In the past, there have been "attendance" numbers given for Disneyland of 80K on NYE and such, but that is the number of new admits, not the number of people IN the park at one time.

If you look at the size of SW:GE on a map, and the size of DL, you can estimate the area will be about 10-15% of the current park. I would not think the area can handle more than 7-8000 people at a time.

Interesting. What is the source on those capacity numbers? I'm really interested in the logistics of park attendance, and had always heard that the capacity is 70K-80K determined by a formula based on attraction capacity, etc.

 

[Malcon10t]

Interesting. What is the source on those capacity numbers? I'm really interested in the logistics of park attendance, and had always heard that the capacity is 70K-80K determined by a formula based on attraction capacity, etc.

It is based on a formula based on attractions AND walkways / areas open. Capacity of BOTH parks is high 80s.

 

[DLgal]

These numbers are off. Disneyland park capacity is closer to 54K depending on if everything / all walkways are open. California Adventure has a capacity in the neighborhood of 34K, with everything open, less right now with Bugsland closed. In the past, there have been "attendance" numbers given for Disneyland of 80K on NYE and such, but that is the number of new admits, not the number of people IN the park at one time.

If you look at the size of SW:GE on a map, and the size of DL, you can estimate the area will be about 10-15% of the current park. I would not think the area can handle more than 7-8000 people at a time.

I don't think that's right. All figures estimated online are in the 80-85k range PLUS cast members (a potential 10k more). 54k is very low. That's a typical crowded day, but not a gate closing situation.

You don't have to eyeball to estimate the size of the land. Disney has already said how big it is (14 acres) and we know the current park is 85 acres.

 

[SoCalDisneyFan2708]

Actually SoCal Select (the lowest pass) is blocked before SWGE opens on 5/31 and Southern California (the second lowest pass) gets just one day before they are blocked (5/31).

Deluxe (the third tier pass) is the only one of the lowest three levels that has any significant opportunity to visit SWGE in this initial opening phase before they are blocked after 6/20.

You’re right about the two lowest passes. I coulda swore when I checked earlier in the year they still had access into May.

 

[Malcon10t]

I don't think that's right. All figures estimated online are in the 80-85k range PLUS cast members (a potential 10k more). 54k is very low. That's a typical crowded day, but not a gate closing situation.

You don't have to eyeball to estimate the size of the land. Disney has already said how big it is (14 acres) and we know the current park is 85 acres.

My numbers are guests, and if we are counting cast, would increase by 10K. But they can have more cast as the backstage areas are not counted for capacity counts. And if you ask a CM for information, they will tell you attendance counts. '

There is some information I am trying to get clarified from my sources. I know the numbers Wikipedia says is 85 acres of lands and hidden areas. Then add 14 acres for SW:GE. However, it has been my understanding from a number of sources that the total park area, including the barns, backstage areas, pyro areas were 85 acres and 14 acres were being "redistributed" from backstage to SW:GE. So no increase in the 85 acres, just taking over 14 of the backstage/previously used acreage. But having it come out from behind stage means an increase of about 1/5 of the capacity. For me, that means about 8K likely. For you, closer to 15K.

ETA - To clarify, Disneyland PARK, including back areas, from Harbor to Disneyland Dr, from the tram track to the pyro area behind ToonTown, but not including the Team Anaheim area behind that to Ball rd is 88.3 acres total. SW:GE is included in this and is not additional space.

 

[TikiTikiFan]

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...april-13/?CMP=SOC-DPFY19Q3wo0411190417190002C

Livestream on saturday all about SWGE! Hope we get more info then.

 

[cdatkins]

No. There are two things going on here:

May 31 - June 23 is the reservation period. You need a "reservation" to enter. All we know is that on property hotel guests will get one reservation per registered guest. How this works otherwise is unknown.

June 24 - ???. After June 23, the reservation system is no longer in place. Instead, Disney will be using a "boarding pass" system which is some kind of virtual queue to enter SW:GE. How this works is unknown, although it seems to no longer have anything to do with hotel stays, but we don't know.

Here is the link I was referring to:

http://allears.net/2019/03/30/disne...ds-with-reservation-system-and-more-measures/

The way that is written, it is unclear to me whether onsite guests June 24+ will have access to the "boarding pass" or not.

 

[agamble]

Here is the link I was referring to:

http://allears.net/2019/03/30/disne...ds-with-reservation-system-and-more-measures/

The way that is written, it is unclear to me whether onsite guests June 24+ will have access to the "boarding pass" or not.

That is because it is unclear to everyone. Disney has not said. It is supposed to be a virtual queue that you get in line for after arriving at the park. However they could find a way to give early queue privileges to hotel guests. I hope they don't though.

 

[Malcon10t]

This is my understanding... May 31-June 23, hotel guests will receive ONE reservation time during their visit. It will have a colored wrist band. It will be time specific. It will be similar to how they did Cars Land, where you have a window, then they clear the area, and you have the next window. They have not said how they will determine the windows and they have not said how they will do the reservations for the extra spots. There will not be FP for the ride.

From June 24th on, it will be open to all. No reservations. Hotel guests will not have priority. And I have been told there will not be FP still. It sounds like FP will not be available until after ROTR opens.

 

[dieumeye]

Here is the link I was referring to:

http://allears.net/2019/03/30/disne...ds-with-reservation-system-and-more-measures/

The way that is written, it is unclear to me whether onsite guests June 24+ will have access to the "boarding pass" or not.

Obviously, details have not been released. But to my knowledge, nothing has been announced about the boarding pass (in use from June 24) being tied it to hotel rooms in anyway. It seems like, sure, you will have access to the boarding pass system as an on-site hotel guest, but not necessarily guaranteed or privileged access. As far as we know now, on site hotel guests will be treated the same as all guests after June 24. But nothing has been announced, so anything could happen.

 

[rteetz]

From June 24th on, it will be open to all. No reservations. Hotel guests will not have priority. And I have been told there will not be FP still. It sounds like FP will not be available until after ROTR opens.

Correct but they will use a queueing system still (supposedly a virtual queue) to keep things under control after June 23rd.

 

[twitch]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/media/star-wars-galaxys-edge-coke-disney/index.html

SWGE themed Coke cans!