Cutting in line....?

[momrek06]

I will tell you WHEN I DON'T CARE is when the line MOVES. Friday night we were waiting in HM and it moved and moved and moved and I could care less if people go ahead of me because I figure I am getting on pretty quickly.

Ohhhh and Roger Rabbit, as we approached that the wait sign said 30 minutes but there really was NO WAIT at all.....and if you all know how that loops around and around until you get to the cars.....nope, that moved so quickly if someone wants to jump ahead to meet their group, no biggie as the line is moving at a good pace.

 

[jenpace]

Just wondering what DL DISer's thought of "cutting in lines"????

For me personally, it's up there on my list of peeves...unless it's really clear that is was in fact a small child and an adult to accompany them to the restroom.

Usually it's a bunch of adults who join up at the last moment. Classy

The worst was what we saw on BTMRR a couple of weeks ago. A family sent their 4 YEAR OLD son ahead to get in line by himself and then joined up with him when it was convenient for them They spent the remainder of the line yelling at him. Nice. It was pretty uncomfortable for me, my DH and my two DDs as we were right behind them in line.

 

[bluedoll]

For me personally, it's up there on my list of peeves...unless it's really clear that is was in fact a small child and an adult to accompany them to the restroom.

Usually it's a bunch of adults who join up at the last moment. Classy

The worst was what we saw on BTMRR a couple of weeks ago. A family sent their 4 YEAR OLD son ahead to get in line by himself and then joined up with him when it was convenient for them They spent the remainder of the line yelling at him. Nice. It was pretty uncomfortable for me, my DH and my two DDs as we were right behind them in line.

Four year old?? Are you sure he was that young?!

 

[jenpace]

Four year old?? Are you sure he was that young?!

We were pretty surprised at how little he was considering. Of course, we didn't make any small talk with them to get exact details but he was really young...so I think our guess of 4 y/o was accurate.

 

[kiwitravel]

I think the true part of line cutting is teens and adults being impatient, rude, and really having no respect for others, with just a hint of entitlement.

(I am not talking about the people with little ones )

I agree, but I think a lot of it is they keep getting away with it and so they keep doing it. The ones I stopped were all very apologetic and got their friends to wait for them and there was no unplesantness at all, some even talked to us as they were interested in our "kiwi" accents.

There were some younger ones that weren't trying to catch to anyone and were just trying to get on the ride faster but they stopped too and didn't complain....

 

[Teki]

I agree HOWEVER, please don't hate me if I need to leave the line when one of my kiddo's is doing the *peepee* dance and have to excuse ourselves then come back.

Thats just it, its one thing when 1 adult leaves to take a young child to the potty, either leaving the rest of there party, or polity asking the person behind you to hold your position its another, entirely when several adults never get in line to begin with do that just so they dont have to wait.

As for why the wait time matters, it doesnt its the principal, everyone standing in line would like to pal around doing what ever till it was time to ride, but they dont because in order to ride the ride, you need to wait in line. This rule should apply to everyone.

 

[c&m]

I think sometimes at DL people just need to chill...it is FUN...happy...magical....not fighting for an extra 30 seconds...so people cut...oh well, getting upset and ruining your happiness is not worth it to me...

Some people just have plans and strategy about their lines! What I think is silly is when people don't get FPs! That is way faster!

I agree...you're on vacation...time to not let these things get to you or make your blood boil to the point that you're exchanging nasty words to the other party...however having said that....

My DH and I once had the experience where we were waiting in line, and the one person waiting in line let in a whole tour group!!!!! Wow, talk about the nerve. My DH said something to that person and so did some of the others in the line behind us. Luckily, no words were exchanged. The whole tour group moved to the back of the line without incident. But to think they had the would try to get away with something like that.

One or two people coming in is fine by me -- that kind of thing is just normal practice. But a whole group who suddenly just show up and jump in front of you is a whole other thing. That's cutting in and just plain rude; but unless Disney CMs do something, it's just not worth the potential conflict.

 

[c&m]

One time when we were in line for Dumbo there was a lady in line standing right before the turnstile that was letting everyone else go in front of her. We thought she was just waiting for the rest of her party to return from a potty run or something but then we saw her yelling things to her family who was on the carousel! Not sure exactly what she was yelling because she was speaking a different language but we thought the whole thing was odd. I can understand that it is hard for little kids to wait in line but our DS3 is delayed in many areas and doesn't always understand the concept of waiting in line but we all wait in line together and patiently wait for our turn.

Well said. How do we explain to our children (small or school aged), after THEY have waited so patiently, that these people cannot do the same???

 

[MomofM&M]

Today was the first day that I had to leave a line and then cut back in. We were waiting at Pixie Hollow and had gotten in line early. My 4 yo refuses to try to potty when we make stops, definitely a control issue and so of course when we start to near the front she had to go. Everyone was really nice letting us leave and letting us come back. I think it helped that she was wearing a Tink costume so they remembered us leaving. I wasn't happy that we had to do that and if someone had said something to me, after getting there 20 mins before it opened, I don't know what I would have done. So thanks, to all those nice people today.

 

[Sherwin]

One time when we were in line for Dumbo there was a lady in line standing right before the turnstile that was letting everyone else go in front of her. We thought she was just waiting for the rest of her party to return from a potty run or something but then we saw her yelling things to her family who was on the carousel! Not sure exactly what she was yelling because she was speaking a different language but we thought the whole thing was odd. I can understand that it is hard for little kids to wait in line but our DS3 is delayed in many areas and doesn't always understand the concept of waiting in line but we all wait in line together and patiently wait for our turn.

Haha, she was probably saying "Hurry up and come back around! I'm already at the front of the line!"

But seriously, I'm one who believes that even though we shouldn't make a big deal out of things and just chill, we still shouldn't let people continue to abuse the right of queuing (or lack thereof). Politely, at first, informing them that others have waited their turn, they should do the same. If they get defensive, back off, and consider informing a CM.

 

[yeartolate]

I would never begrudge one parent and one child leaving a line with one parent left to go pee and come right back.



That being said, I would never take my kid into a line I thought was going to be long without peeing first. If we had to go out and pee, we would go to the end of the line. I personally don't feel comfortable going back in line.

I never think it is ok to get in line and have the rest of your party join you later. That is rude. That is more of a biological fastpass. To get back in line, you actually have to be in line in the first place.

As for parade spaces..the person who is left needs to be able to defend the space. No saving for 20 unless you have really long arms, And if you think leaving a poncho and a blanket on the ground unattended is your parade space - I call that lost and found.

 

[Mike_M]

I don't know. I've seen this happen in lines at DL for as long as I can remember going there so for me it's just been part of what to expect and as a result has never really bothered me. If the whole group had been in line all the time we were waiting, it wouldn't have made the outcome any different.

Things would be different if a majority of the people in line were holding spots so a line of say 100 people turned out to be 300 by the time you got through it, that would be annoying but it's usually only a few groups at most in the longer lines so it isn't changing wait times by any huge ammount.

 

[Disney Dreams]

I see many people here saying there is no problem with a parent taking a child to the restroom and then joining their group back in line.

So... let's say you get in line. It's a 30 min. wait. Then, a dad and son join back with their family in front of you. Then a mom and daughter. Then another. And another. And another. And another. Before you knw it, you are up to a 45 minute wait because 1/3 of the people in front of you at first have now been joined by "just a parent and a child going potty." It adds up - quickly.

To say that it's okay for a parent and a child, but not 2 adults, I have to disagree with strongly. I don't really think there is any difference as to 'who" is having someone wait for them in line. Either way, it increases your expected wait time. Either it's ok, or it's not. Who it is should be irrelevant.

You probably noticed it more at Disneyland because there are a lot more locals. I think locals are more likely to do rude things, especially the groups of teens you'll find there. Obviously not all locals do this.

As a local, all I have to say is, "Wow!" I never knew that living near DLR made me more likely to be rude. Did you ever think maybe it would be the opposite? If a "local" doesn't get a chance to ride that attraction with a long line today, they can always come back another day. Perhaps the "out of towner" who HAS TO ride before heading back home does rude things to make sure s/he gets to ride.

 

[BecBennett]

Every one has an opinion on this!

Mine is along the lines of, if it's not going to increase my wait time, then I don't care, for example, if 1 person is waiting in line for something like the haunted mansion, and 2 people come and join them at the front of the line, if they all get into the 1 buggy, then it's made no difference at all, if they were to all get in separate buggies, then that's completely different!

 

[bluedoll]

You probably noticed it more at Disneyland because there are a lot more locals. I think locals are more likely to do rude things, especially the groups of teens you'll find there. Obviously not all locals do this. But it seems like a lot more people treat Disneyland as just a regular theme park where as WDW is more touristy and vacationy.



Sometimes, I've helped rude people get what they deserve. I know, I know, I'm being just as rude. But I can't help it if I "accidently" sit really tall in my seat in front of them on space mountain and put my arms up and "accidently" block them in the ride photo. Oops. (I'm not talkikng about line cutters, just rude people in general that I've encountered in line.)

I see many people here saying there is no problem with a parent taking a child to the restroom and then joining their group back in line.

So... let's say you get in line. It's a 30 min. wait. Then, a dad and son join back with their family in front of you. Then a mom and daughter. Then another. And another. And another. And another. Before you knw it, you are up to a 45 minute wait because 1/3 of the people in front of you at first have now been joined by "just a parent and a child going potty." It adds up - quickly.

To say that it's okay for a parent and a child, but not 2 adults, I have to disagree with strongly. I don't really think there is any difference as to 'who" is having someone wait for them in line. Either way, it increases your expected wait time. Either it's ok, or it's not. Who it is should be irrelevant.


As a local, all I have to say is, "Wow!" I never knew that living near DLR made me more likely to be rude. Did you ever think maybe it would be the opposite? If a "local" doesn't get a chance to ride that attraction with a long line today, they can always come back another day. Perhaps the "out of towner" who HAS TO ride before heading back home does rude things to make sure s/he gets to ride.

I used to be a local that was in the park once a week or more. And I encountered numerous rude people. And so many of those were large groups of teenagers that were clearly locals. They treat Disneyland like any old theme park and not a "magical" place. I've found the people that were clearly out-of-towners (although you can't always tell, obviously. But often you can) were much nicer and friendlier.

And I think you chose to ignore one big sentence in my post - "Obviously not all locals do this." So if you aren't one of those people, I don't see why you'd be offended.

 

[yeartolate]

I see many people here saying there is no problem with a parent taking a child to the restroom and then joining their group back in line.

So... let's say you get in line. It's a 30 min. wait. Then, a dad and son join back with their family in front of you. Then a mom and daughter. Then another. And another. And another. And another. Before you knw it, you are up to a 45 minute wait because 1/3 of the people in front of you at first have now been joined by "just a parent and a child going potty." It adds up - quickly.

To say that it's okay for a parent and a child, but not 2 adults, I have to disagree with strongly. I don't really think there is any difference as to 'who" is having someone wait for them in line. Either way, it increases your expected wait time. Either it's ok, or it's not. Who it is should be irrelevant.


As a local, all I have to say is, "Wow!" I never knew that living near DLR made me more likely to be rude. Did you ever think maybe it would be the opposite? If a "local" doesn't get a chance to ride that attraction with a long line today, they can always come back another day. Perhaps the "out of towner" who HAS TO ride before heading back home does rude things to make sure s/he gets to ride.

My thing is you have to have been in line to come back to it. It is clearly one thing for one parent to to take one child (I would never, I would just enter the back of the line) but it is another to have people enter up the line that were never there. That is just rude. Sorry, but your party has to take the pace of the slowest common enominator. .

 

[momrek06]

You probably noticed it more at Disneyland because there are a lot more locals. I think locals are more likely to do rude things, especially the groups of teens you'll find there. Obviously not all locals do this. But it seems like a lot more people treat Disneyland as just a regular theme park where as WDW is more touristy and vacationy.

As a local, all I have to say is, "Wow!" I never knew that living near DLR made me more likely to be rude. Did you ever think maybe it would be the opposite? If a "local" doesn't get a chance to ride that attraction with a long line today, they can always come back another day. Perhaps the "out of towner" who HAS TO ride before heading back home does rude things to make sure s/he gets to ride.

OP here!

I would just like to say this group I was speaking of that "cut" the line at IASW on Friday, every single one of them had on a black STEELERS jacket. We noticed it in the line and we did notice them in the Park after seeing them at IASW! So I doubt they were locals.

We just moved to CA in July....so we are pretty new and it is my opinion that the locals here in CA that are going to wear sports apparel usually have LAKERS or ANGELS clothing on.

Just defending the "locals do rude things" statement.

 

[bluedoll]

OP here!

I would just like to say this group I was speaking of that "cut" the line at IASW on Friday, every single one of them had on a black STEELERS jacket. We noticed it in the line and we did notice them in the Park after seeing them at IASW! So I doubt they were locals.

We just moved to CA in July....so we are pretty new and it is my opinion that the locals here in CA that are going to wear sports apparel usually have LAKERS or ANGELS clothing on.

Just defending the "locals do rude things" statement.

And you'll notice that I didn't say "ONLY locals do rude things." Nor did I say "Non-locals NEVER do rude things."

 

[momrek06]

And you'll notice that I didn't say "ONLY locals do rude things." Nor did I say "Non-locals NEVER do rude things."

Absolutely.......

But that being said....I purposely did not mention in my OP that while observing this group Friday night that they were "out-of-towners"....As the OP, I wanted to just keep this thread to "cutting in line" and not to single out whether or not "cutters" are from CA!

 

[bluedoll]

Okay, then I'm sorry to have invaded your thread. I'm out.