Custodial Parents Child Support Support Group!

My ex just feels he doesn't have to pay. end of story. No one should hold him to any standards or expect anything of him. He should just get everything and anything he wants in life without any responsibility. And what's worse is that his mother agrees and caters to his every whim.
 
My ex just feels he doesn't have to pay. end of story. No one should hold him to any standards or expect anything of him. He should just get everything and anything he wants in life without any responsibility. And what's worse is that his mother agrees and caters to his every whim.
Oh boy...they aren't the same man are they???? I heard yours is expecting #3 also. They sound too much alike.
 
Oh boy...they aren't the same man are they???? I heard yours is expecting #3 also. They sound too much alike.

:sad2: Whatever mold they came from needs to be destroyed before it produces another defective unit! And just when I though the situation couldn't get worse and there couldn't possible be anyone in this world more screwed up than his mother and him, that's when his lovely and classy girlfriend came into the scenario. :scared1:
 
Hey guys, hope all is going well. Goofy4Donald, wish I could give you some advice but alas, as a CS newbie, I can't offer much.

I will say that Sat I got a nice little surprise in the mailbox. Check #3!! Right now these little unexpected bonus checks (as I lived without them for 4 years) are paying towards my student loans while I'm still in school!!! Here's to my ex paying for my education!!!! :banana:

Everyone have a good weekend?
 

Has anyone else heard about the $25 fee that WE (the CUSTODIAL parent) has to pay yearly if you were never on a TANF recipient and you are paid more than $500 a year in child support? I'm sorry but this is just an outrage. Why should I have to pay a fee for something HE should do on his own??!!

For anyone who hasn't heard about it check out http://www.newyorkchildsupport.com
It applies to everyone in EVERY state.
 
Has anyone else heard about the $25 fee that WE (the CUSTODIAL parent) has to pay yearly if you were never on a TANF recipient and you are paid more than $500 a year in child support? I'm sorry but this is just an outrage. Why should I have to pay a fee for something HE should do on his own??!!

For anyone who hasn't heard about it check out http://www.newyorkchildsupport.com
It applies to everyone in EVERY state.

OMG...I just read this. I'm so disgusted-the system really blows and thats putting it mildly. Its adding insult to injury. Wow...so I guess this means that the agencies will work hard to make sure you at least get $500 a year and then after that, there's no incentive for them to hound the non-custodial parent for payment. I agree that the NCP should be bearing the cost, because in all honesty if the NCP was trustworthy enough to make payments (at least in my case) I wouldn't have to have the court monitor his payments. I initially allowed my ex to pay direct and only when he decided he could change the times and amounts he paid on a whim, then I had to turn to the court for monitoring and enforcement. I think this is appalling that the government would assess an already hurting sector of the population a fee to receive child support. Next thing you'll hear is they want to tax the child support we receive and reduce it down to essentially nothing. :mad:
 
That fee is REDICULOUS! It's as pathetic as having to pay the $25 just to open your case. What makes it even more rediculous is that it is governmentally regulated....isn't there funding to cover agency expenses? So where is this money/fee going?
 
See this article I found regarding PA and what they're doing about it:

http://ydr.inyork.com/ci_10456183

Pa. lawmaker fighting $25 child support fee
By MARTHA RAFFAELE Associated Press Writer
Article Last Updated: 09/13/2008 12:57:34 PM EDT


HARRISBURG, Pa.—Some Pennsylvania families who need the government's help to collect child support received unwelcome news in the mail this summer: They must now help defray the cost of that service.
The Department of Public Welfare has sent out notices informing parents it will deduct a $25 annual fee from child support payments to custodial parents who receive at least $2,000 a year and who have never received cash assistance welfare benefits.

As small as that may seem, Rep. Kate Harper considers it a big deal for single parents who struggle to feed, clothe and shelter their children—and an outrage for the government to take any money intended to fulfill a child's basic needs.

"These people are taxpayers—this is their own money," said Harper, R-Montgomery. "This is one parent paying to another parent for the benefit of their children."

The fee is collected on a per-case basis, meaning that parents with more than one child-support case in Pennsylvania will pay the fee for each case.

Harper hopes the outcry from affected parents will be loud enough to prompt her colleagues to support legislation she introduced last month to repeal the fee. But persuading Democrats who control the House to revisit the issue in an election-shortened fall session will be a tough sell.

All states are being required to collect the fee under the federal Deficit Reduction Act of 2005, which Congress passed to slow the growth of benefit programs such


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as Medicaid and student loan subsidies.
The states have the option of paying the costs, charging the custodial parent, or charging the noncustodial parent. Two-thirds of the fee goes to the federal government; the states keep the rest.

Like most other states, Pennsylvania has chosen to place the burden on the custodial parent under a bill signed by Gov. Ed Rendell in May.

The federal law requires the fee to be paid when states have collected at least $500 on a family's behalf. Pennsylvania is covering the fee for parents whose yearly child support amounts to less than $2,000, but those who get more have to pay the fee out of their pockets.

In a tight budget year, the state could not afford to absorb the full cost, which would have been $2.6 million for the 2007-08 federal fiscal year ending Sept. 30 and $3.2 million for the next year, welfare department spokeswoman Stacey Witalec said.

Officials determined that the state could more reliably collect the fee from parents who have custody of their children, given that about half of the parents who have been ordered to pay child support are in arrears to the tune of $1.4 billion in all, Witalec said.

States get involved in child support cases when the parent who owes has fallen behind on payments or refuses to pay. The state helps find that parent and takes steps to make sure the support is paid, such as withholding money from a paycheck or an income tax refund.

"We just had no option other than to collect the money from the custodial parent," Witalec said.

Harper disagrees, noting that the full cost of the fee to the state is minuscule compared to a multibillion-dollar state budget, 40 percent of which is devoted to public welfare spending.

"On this one, they made a mistake," Harper said.

Louise Marshall, who separated from her husband a year-and-a-half ago, faces her own tough choices even without the $25 fee.

The Doylestown woman makes $20 an hour as a part-time nurse in a pediatrician's office and receives about $1,200 a month in child support for two of her three children. She saw her first $25 deduction last month.

"You can't go to the food market and buy as much as you want," said Marshall, 47. "You don't buy as much fresh vegetables."

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Martha Raffaele covers human-services issues for The Associated Press in Harrisburg. She can be reached at mraffaele(at)ap.org.
 
One more EXCELLENT article about how this fee really affects those on a budget....as we all are:

http://www.mlive.com/saginawnews/opinion/index.ssf/2008/09/child_support_tax_is_unfair_fo.html

Child support tax is unfair for single working parents
by Stacey Henson | The Saginaw News
Monday September 01, 2008, 6:00 AM
I'm a single mom, and I've never received child support. Those who do get a check often pay for it in blood, sweat and tears. That's a battle I can manage without.

I consider myself fortunate not to have that ongoing war.

Single moms and dads often barely make ends meet -- especially in a county where the number of working poor rises each year. Raising kids is a two-person job, and paying for the little monsters often requires aunts, uncles and grandparents to chip in.

Now, the federal government is demanding that custodial parents pay a $25 yearly fee to receive child support. And guess when those first payments are due?

2007's is due in September. 2008's is due in October. From there on out, the annual fee is paid in October.

I talked to single mom Janet Johnson, 50, of Saginaw last week. She makes $10.50 per hour as a legal secretary. She has to work more than two hours this month and two-plus in October just to recoup the privilege of collecting a child support check for her daughter.

Overtime is rare, and she anticipates not getting any this month or next to make up for the loss.

The state Department of Human Resources told her all this in a letter dated Aug. 14. So much for living on a budget where pennies matter.

Parents are trying to scrape money to get their kids back in school. $25 may not seem like a lot, but it's a pair of shoes, a uniform, a backpack or lunch fees for the month for a child.

That's right. One child. Imagine if you're trying to outfit two or three.

And in a slap to self-reliant working parents, those who have EVER received cash or food assistance in any form are exempt, as are those who collect less than $500 in child support. Receive $501 per year in child support and you pay the fee.

While working full-time, Janet makes less than the poverty level, yet doesn't qualify for assistance.

The state says $5,600 is the average amount of child support the parents who will pay the fee receive each year. How many people does it take to pull the average down from Saginaw basketball great Jason Richardson's court-ordered $94,000?
You know moms and dads who receive far below average.

The state says the fee averages half of 1 percent for most people, as if that amount is inconsequential. This is the same state that gives $6,700 per pupil to a school to educate them for eight months.

Are you outraged yet? If not, you tell a third-grader the reason she's still wearing ratty sandals and dragging last year's backpack in October is that she's replenishing her state's coffers.

The bottom line is if we're going to pay "user fees," they shouldn't come from our children. Let's see the government place a "freedom to lobby" fee on corporations at half of 1 percent of company income.

Of all the people to tax, single working parents who live on shoestring budgets are not the solution.
 
The bad thing is...when you break it all down...is that the kids are having to pay in order to be supported by a parent. In Montana we always has to pay a fee when they had to take the money out of ex's paycheck...well actually I like to say my DD had to pay a fee. My child support is 74.00 a month. When they were still paying you in a check I would get paid 34.00 2x's a month. So I would get 68.00 not the 74.00. My daughter's child support was deducted something like 7% because she had a deadbeat dad that would not pay unless forced to by law. They should have made him pay an extra 7% not take it away from the child.
That 25.00 is ridiculous....just like the 25.00 fee I had to pay to have it reopened. I would much rather have an ex who pays me/DD a decent CS payment on time, every month. But because I don't my family has to be punished. Why don't they just tack it on to what the ex owes? It is his (and yes in some cases her) fault that we have to go through CSED in the first place.
 
OMG! I almost dropped DEAD today. Out of habit I logged on to check my support account expecting to see "no payments have been made during this period" and insetad I see THREE $500 payments. :eek: WHAT?! I thought it was showing me an example of what I SHOULD see. :lmao: I never expected to see that!!! I was freaking out about possible having to take out a loan! Now I don't have to! Gosh I am so excited now. I just had to share with you all!!!
 
i am absolutely in outrage over the 25.00 fee. my ex doesnt pay child support regularly and i am still responsible for the 25.00 fee, from what i understand they are going to take it directly from the eppicard, what happens if there is no money there, one of those lovely occasions where the ex just stops paying for a time period, are they going to send me a bill and if i dont pay send me to collections

this is absurd that the NCP can get away with not paying CS but the CP has to pay the 25.00 fee.

on another note i just found out ex is having another baby so that will be #3 must be nice to have a baby and expecting another but to totally foget about the 14 yr old you abanded so many years ago. i just dont understand and he still tells people he currently has 2 girls one who is 14 and one who just turned a yr --- WRONG you dont have a 14 yr old you were just a sperm donor.

i am sorry i am just so frustrated.
 
i am absolutely in outrage over the 25.00 fee. my ex doesnt pay child support regularly and i am still responsible for the 25.00 fee, from what i understand they are going to take it directly from the eppicard, what happens if there is no money there, one of those lovely occasions where the ex just stops paying for a time period, are they going to send me a bill and if i dont pay send me to collections

this is absurd that the NCP can get away with not paying CS but the CP has to pay the 25.00 fee.

on another note i just found out ex is having another baby so that will be #3 must be nice to have a baby and expecting another but to totally foget about the 14 yr old you abanded so many years ago. i just dont understand and he still tells people he currently has 2 girls one who is 14 and one who just turned a yr --- WRONG you dont have a 14 yr old you were just a sperm donor.

i am sorry i am just so frustrated.

I say the same thing about my ex. I totally understand where you're coming from. Don't be sorry for venting. This is the place to do it! We are all in the same boat here.
 
OMG! I almost dropped DEAD today. Out of habit I logged on to check my support account expecting to see "no payments have been made during this period" and insetad I see THREE $500 payments. :eek: WHAT?! I thought it was showing me an example of what I SHOULD see. :lmao: I never expected to see that!!! I was freaking out about possible having to take out a loan! Now I don't have to! Gosh I am so excited now. I just had to share with you all!!!
:cheer2: I am so happy for you. :cheer2:
Finally I read about someone actually getting what is owed.
 
i am absolutely in outrage over the 25.00 fee. my ex doesnt pay child support regularly and i am still responsible for the 25.00 fee, from what i understand they are going to take it directly from the eppicard, what happens if there is no money there, one of those lovely occasions where the ex just stops paying for a time period, are they going to send me a bill and if i dont pay send me to collections

this is absurd that the NCP can get away with not paying CS but the CP has to pay the 25.00 fee.

on another note i just found out ex is having another baby so that will be #3 must be nice to have a baby and expecting another but to totally foget about the 14 yr old you abanded so many years ago. i just dont understand and he still tells people he currently has 2 girls one who is 14 and one who just turned a yr --- WRONG you dont have a 14 yr old you were just a sperm donor.

i am sorry i am just so frustrated.
First of all, DO NOT APOLOGIZE!!! We are either there or have been there and know how it feels. I am going through something right now as well. My ex owes me 3.5 years of back child support...does something that warrants a Judge to rule supervised visitation at the dept of family services center, without ANY other contact to my DD...and then I have to hear him talking at work about how I am this and I am that and he just loves his DD so much and he works so hard to provide for her. He tells everyone that she is in gymnastics, plays the violin and how next year is gonna be rough because she needs braces...HELLO??? he does not pay for any of that. How is me paying for her braces going to be rough on him? How is any of this hard on him? And how does working hard benefit my DD if he can't even pay 74.00 a month? (I got this info as my sister's dear friend works with my ex)
 
First of all, DO NOT APOLOGIZE!!! We are either there or have been there and know how it feels. I am going through something right now as well. My ex owes me 3.5 years of back child support...does something that warrants a Judge to rule supervised visitation at the dept of family services center, without ANY other contact to my DD...and then I have to hear him talking at work about how I am this and I am that and he just loves his DD so much and he works so hard to provide for her. He tells everyone that she is in gymnastics, plays the violin and how next year is gonna be rough because she needs braces...HELLO??? he does not pay for any of that. How is me paying for her braces going to be rough on him? How is any of this hard on him? And how does working hard benefit my DD if he can't even pay 74.00 a month? (I got this info as my sister's dear friend works with my ex)

My ex ALSO has supervised visits but he is not interested in them because he can't do as he pleases.
 
The system is crazy. I can't stand how it is hard on the parent taking care of the child and the parent not helping with the child is afforded all the rights. My oldest son turned 25 in April. His dad and I were never married. In 1989, 6 years after we last saw him he was finally ordered to pay $31.50 a month in child support. Of course he was supposed to take care of health insurance but we all know that happened. When I did get married to my ex, ds dad figured he didn't have to send anything. For about 14 years. Every now and again I would get a check for 31.50. Never could get his tax return because he had to be behind a certain amount for them to intercept. At 31 bucks a month that was never going to happen. When ds was 23, I hear that his dad went to jail for non payment. 2 months later I was paid in full. Or so I thought. Last summer I received a check in the mail from VA child support in the amount of...drum roll please...$1. Now how idiotic is that? He evidently owes me another 825 according to their records but according to their records he went back to court, showed hardship and the fact he has 5 other children from 3 different woman. They awarded me $1 a month until he is paid off. He is now 13 in arrears. Go figure.

Kelly
 
My ex ALSO has supervised visits but he is not interested in them because he can't do as he pleases.
If you weren't in NY I would swear that our ex's are the same guy. Your son (at least in your siggy) looks like my oldest. Too scary.
 





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