Current non sold out resorts question

[RichV03]

Comments or opinions are welcome. We are thinking of adding 100 direct Sep UY to get double points and go along with our BLT Sep UY contract(that we are waiting on Disney to complete as far as putting points into account).

 

[UrsulaWantsYourSoul]

Such a loaded question. If you go with Riviera as a home resort and planning to get 11 months booking... you'd need to buy more direct there likely. Currently very little Riviera resale and you might not want resale since you can only use Riviera resale AT Riviera. 100 points... if you go every other year, 200 points total gets you Deluxe Studio for a week for most times of the year.

You of course know that you can add on direct points right now at almost all resorts not just those three, yes? It's just the ones they are pushing. But yes you can likely get 100 direct points at any property except Grand Californian. Here are the current summer incentives for new and add on points:

https://www.disboards.com/threads/direct-sales-incentives-summer-2020-expanded-list.3805288/

Always good to consider the length of the deed and of course "buy where you'd be happy to stay".

Happy shopping!

 

[sethschroeder]

You can buy any resort though.

All 3 are drastically different for different people.

Why is the list just those 3 to start.

I would cross off CCV with owning BLT.

 

[bobbiwoz]

Riviera, newest resort, and I think best price for what you get. Would only use those points at Riviera, like the VGF points we have, only use them there!

We already have the blue card. I think only our BLT points are restricted.

 

[RichV03]

You can buy any resort though.

All 3 are drastically different for different people.

Why is the list just those 3 to start.

I would cross off CCV with owning BLT.

It’s those three mainly for the sake of getting ‘19 points for free. We love all the resorts and with having BLT already we thought another one by Epcot/Hs could be nice. We were leaning towards Riviera but wanted some other opinions. I can’t see spending what Board and Beach are going for with how little time is left on them. I’ll be honest I forgot about only being able to use direct points at riviera. If I were to buy direct at a sold out resort could I then use my direct and resale points at the original 14 but then any newer resort only be able to use the direct?

 

[Matty B13]

All points bought directly from DVC can be used at any resort at 7 months.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Riviera has a high points chart and that nasty resale issue.

If you want studios, CCV is a bear.

Anyone who stays mostly at WDW shouldn't buy Aulani. Anyone who wants to stay at Aulani doesn't need the direct benefits, which are basically lame for Hawaii trips.

If I really wanted direct points, I would buy AKV or Saratoga. You would get September points with either buying September UY right now.

 

[vacay77]

I considered this same scenario at one point and if I had gone through with it, I would have purchased Copper Creek. The Riviera looks amazing, but the resale restriction is a huge deterrent for me.

 

[JETSDAD]

I think people put too much emphasis on the Riviera resale restriction. The potential loss is less than the other active selling resorts right now. Aulani? Same purchase price, less resale value. CCV? Probably similar to Riviera because it's a higher purchase price to begin with so even if it sells a bit higher resale it's basically the same. Buy any resort direct and you're going to take a big hit if you have to sell anytime soon.

 

[RichV03]

Riviera has a high points chart and that nasty resale issue.

If you want studios, CCV is a bear.

Anyone who stays mostly at WDW shouldn't buy Aulani. Anyone who wants to stay at Aulani doesn't need the direct benefits, which are basically lame for Hawaii trips.

If I really wanted direct points, I would buy AKV or Saratoga. You would get September points with either buying September UY right now.

I was told by agent that it’s not a for sure in getting ‘19 points on sold out resorts because it depends on if they even have any to give. That’s part of the reason I really only considered the three new ones.

 

[RichV03]

I think people put too much emphasis on the Riviera resale restriction. The potential loss is less than the other active selling resorts right now. Aulani? Same purchase price, less resale value. CCV? Probably similar to Riviera because it's a higher purchase price to begin with so even if it sells a bit higher resale it's basically the same. Buy any resort direct and you're going to take a big hit if you have to sell anytime soon.

we don’t have to sell soon. We are just getting in, hoping to be around for a while. Part of the reason we considered places with deeds 35+ years yet is because we truly plan in at least 15-20 years before we might have to give it up if kids get tired of it.

 

[CraigInPA]

I was told by agent that it’s not a for sure in getting ‘19 points on sold out resorts because it depends on if they even have any to give. That’s part of the reason I really only considered the three new ones.

They won't sell you a contract direct that doesn't have current year points. So, if you wanted BLT September use year now in August, they would either sell you the contract (with '19 points) or tell you there is nothing available at this moment. If unavailable, expect a call about a week into September telling you that the contract is available. Of course, you will ask that they bank the points on the direct purchase, since it is unlikely you'd use them in the remaining 3 weeks of the use year and you're past the banking deadline.

 

[RichV03]

They won't sell you a contract direct that doesn't have current year points. So, if you wanted BLT September use year now in August, they would either sell you the contract (with '19 points) or tell you there is nothing available at this moment. If unavailable, expect a call about a week into September telling you that the contract is available. Of course, you will ask that they bank the points on the direct purchase, since it is unlikely you'd use them in the remaining 3 weeks of the use year and you're past the banking deadline.

The BLT resale contract we are closing on does have ‘19 points already banked. I must have misunderstood the agent about ‘19 points on SEP UY on sold out resorts. To me it sound like “you might get them, you might not” but if I bought one of the three they are selling not sold out I would get ‘19 and also only have to pay 4 months if MF on ‘20 points.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

The BLT resale contract we are closing on does have ‘19 points already banked. I must have misunderstood the agent about ‘19 points on SEP UY on sold out resorts. To me it sound like “you might get them, you might not” but if I bought one of the three they are selling not sold out I would get ‘19 and also only have to pay 4 months if MF on ‘20 points.

Direct reps will tell you what benefits them most. What benefits them most is selling you RIV, CCV or Aulani.

 

[CastAStone]

I can’t see spending what Board and Beach are going for with how little time is left on them.

I may have mentioned this to you in another thread but I calculate 21 years at Boardwalk for $200 as a better deal than 50 years of Riviera for $190 or $195 because of the points charts. At 200 points Riviera makes more sense but the incentives are so small for 100 points that I find it to be a bad financial payback compared to other options.

 

[RichV03]

I may have mentioned this to you in another thread but I calculate 21 years at Boardwalk for $200 as a better deal than 50 years of Riviera for $190 or $195 because of the points charts. At 200 points Riviera makes more sense but the incentives are so small for 100 points that I find it to be a bad financial payback compared to other options.

I might be looking past that for the sole reason of resale value in 10-15 years if it doesn’t work out for our family anymore.

 

[The Jackal]

For blue card benefits I wouldn't buy any of the listed above. I would buy either OKW, SSR or AKV. I bought a 100 point OKW contract to stay in a Grand Villa every few years for large group vacations.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

I might be looking past that for the sole reason of resale value in 10-15 years if it doesn’t work out for our family anymore.

If you are looking past BCV/BWV for resale value, RIV should be off the table entirely.

Very few buy thinking they will someday sell.

 

[RichV03]

If you are looking past BCV/BWV for resale value, RIV should be off the table entirely.

Very few buy thinking they will someday sell.

My thought was in 10-15 it might be different if future resorts all have same restrictions as well. But this thread has been very helpful in thought process. Might consider AKV a little more, only downside is being so far from parks

 

[sethschroeder]

It’s those three mainly for the sake of getting ‘19 points for free.

This is false.

You only get current UY points. If you are in the '19 UY then you get 2019 point if not then you don't. It has zero to do with being new or sold out.