Curious about if this would be a DAS qualifier as its mobility related but not?

[gap2368]

My question was simply if posters thought I would potentially qualify based on my needs. I asked for nothing more. I have my own ways to cope so that was not what I was asking. So sounds like what I am doing is status quo for my particular needs so I will continue on with what I have found hinders me the least. Thanks for your time.

yes you did ask a question and I answered with my best guess ( no) then you said ok I guess I will have to "I should expect the pain and remember the fun." and I was trying to find way that if gr said no to you that you could continue on with your vacation and not have so many bruises and the resion why I can see GR saying to you is that there just is not that many lines that are indoor and dark I can think of 3 at the MK 2 at EPCOT 1 maybe 2 at AK and 1 at HS. like the PP said the lines you have a hard time with might be good ones to FP in case you are told no on the DAS but you do not want any hits that might help you so

 

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

yes you did ask a question and I answered with my best guess ( no) then you said ok I guess I will have to "I should expect the pain and remember the fun." and I was trying to find way that if gr said no to you that you could continue on with your vacation and not have so many bruises and the resion why I can see GR saying to you is that there just is not that many lines that are indoor and dark I can think of 3 at the MK 2 at EPCOT 1 maybe 2 at AK and 1 at HS. like the PP said the lines you have a hard time with might be good ones to FP in case you are told no on the DAS but you do not want any hits that might help you so

I think think of quite a few that have at least dark parts.
So it seems like you cannot understand my particular degree of night blindness.
Parts of Splash are dark, parts of thunder are dark, HM is dark, parts of PP is dark, 7DMT, space, Buzz is difficult, POTC, Mexico, FEA, SSE when you get into the ball, TOT, TSM, Dinosaur, likely FOP.... I can deal with most but some are much more difficult. But again I appreciate your time and the answer to my original question.

 

[gap2368]

I think think of quite a few that have at least dark parts.
So it seems like you cannot understand my particular degree of night blindness.
Parts of Splash are dark, parts of thunder are dark, HM is dark, parts of PP is dark, 7DMT, space, Buzz is difficult, POTC, Mexico, FEA, SSE when you get into the ball, TOT, TSM, Dinosaur, likely FOP.... I can deal with most but some are much more difficult. But again I appreciate your time and the answer to my original question.

FOP has dark part in it ( if you have not been in it yet) I think it was one room maybe two, but then part of the line should be fine for you ( the lab is very cool and has a lot to look at)

 

[kaytieeldr]

I'm not holding my sisters hand.

I didn't say hand, I said arm - the typical method of being physically guided by someone.

You mentioned fastpasses therefore I assume you feel I would qualify for DAS as you would wait elsewhere and then walk though the fastpass line.

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No, just the available-to-anyone FPs.

 

[Starwind]

I guess I'm confused about how hand signals work when you cannot see the person's hands?
Since I need to be behind the person in line due to limited room I actually hook a lanyard onto the person's bag so I can be far enough behind to not step on their heels

We stood side by side. They held my arm just above my elbow. My other arm reached across me and rested on their hand (their same hand that was holding my arm) and i was able to give a signal. I know a couple of them were taps. Don't recall the other two.

BUt we're physically touching so quite easy to do. Also, even without the hand signals, I would think a much more effective and safer guiding than what you are trying to do with a lanyard.

See http://www.afb.org/info/friends-and-family/etiquette/being-a-sighted-guide/235 and https://www.fightingblindness.ie/support/how-to-guide-a-person-with-a-visual-impairment/

And a very good training video: https://www.traveleyes-international.com/guiding-a-blind-person/ BTW, the video show how to handle going through a narrow space where you can't walk side by side.

SW

 

[Starwind]

FWIW, I am sun sensitive and even in summer wear long sleeves and long pants. I find sun protective clothing and fabrics are actually COOLER than normal fabrics. So sweat does not have to be an issue unless you let it .

Even if your guide is stubborn and refuses to change their clothing to be more helpful, you could wear a very lightweight glove on the one hand and create a barrier. I highly recommend Eclipse sun gloves ( https://eclipseglove.com/products/sun-gloves ) and sun sleeves ( https://eclipseglove.com/products/sun-sleeves ). Added bonus: one less place you need to put sunscreen on !

As for the flip flops issue, maybe you could speak to them and they would change their footwear ? Flip flops in a long day at Disney are just not healthy for anyone's feet anyway... [not that most flip flops are considered healthy for one's feet in the first place]. But particularly if you use the sighted guide technique you shouldn't be running into each other, so even if they are stubborn and keep using flip flops it should still work.

SW

 

[DisneyOma]

Would it be helpful to try the night vision glasses? that way, you could even do the parks at night (which I'm assuming you can't do at all?)

 

[kaytieeldr]

It's hard to hold onto the person's arm when it's summer especially we get so sweaty and since the person I'm with usually wears flip flops I need to be far enough away to not step on the back of their feet.

een of the WDW Scene, post: 60438245, member: 585015"]My question was simply if posters thought I would potentially qualify based on my needs.[/QUOTE]
Have you considered a white cane and no human assistance?

You mentioned fastpasses therefore I assume you feel I would qualify for DAS

I mentioned using Fastpass just like everyone else does.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Parts of Splash are dark, parts of thunder are dark, HM is dark, parts of PP is dark, 7DMT, space, Buzz is difficult, POTC, Mexico, FEA,
SSE when you get into the ball, TOT, TSM, Dinosaur, likely FOP...

ToT+TSMM = FPs
Dinosaur+FoP = FPs
PP - isn't the entire queue outside?
Splash - explain to the CM at the wheelchair food that you can't see inside the building.
This leaves BTMR, HM, 7DMT, Space, Buzz, PoTC at MK; Mexico, FEA, SSE in Epcot.
Fastpass Epcot. Three attractions, only one Tier 1, right?
did attractions at MK: two days, FP three attractions each day; or three FPs then look for more.

 

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

Would it be helpful to try the night vision glasses? that way, you could even do the parks at night (which I'm assuming you can't do at all?)

I would love legitimate night vision glasses. That really would solve the problem.
Thing is the articles I have read about this happening for regular glasses are years old and I have not seen anything on the market.
If you are simply talking about the yellow tinted glasses though I have tried them and they do nothing for me in dim light. It is supposed to give a higher contrast but I think that due to retinal damage they do not work for me.

 

[gap2368]

ToT+TSMM = FPs
Dinosaur+FoP = FPs
PP - isn't the entire queue outside?
Splash - explain to the CM at the wheelchair food that you can't see inside the building.
This leaves BTMR, HM, 7DMT, Space, Buzz, PoTC at MK; Mexico, FEA, SSE in Epcot.
Fastpass Epcot. Three attractions, only one Tier 1, right?
did attractions at MK: two days, FP three attractions each day; or three FPs then look for more.

this is more for anyone else reading this with vision problems to help them some

for BTMRR you can talk to the CM about yourneedss their is a wheelchair entrince ( the exit really) that they might let you use this would work better then the FP since to get to the area is a very short path the you could hold someone arm for the 10 seconts it would take you then they have like a pin that you are in and it would be very easey for the person with you to say here is the wall and then when you move up to grab your arm and say walk up the 10 or so feet ) thier is between no one infront of you and 5 groups max)

for HM right when you go in the first room there is a CM on your right have the person with you let the CM know you need to use the alternitvie entrince due to a disability they will show you where to go wait when the door open to the streaching room once their let the CM know you need to go thougth the exit it is dark but less crowded and you do not have the stop and go of the entrince and they can slow the walkway down if need be and you canhear the person with you say ok the walk way is coming up.

for space the standby FP is right next to each other until you get in the final room ( do not know what ti call this) and it is just as bright as other ride you did not say. so for this one their really is no getting around the dark part.

Mexic has no FP line and I think this is the only thing the DAS is not able to be used for, but when is the line long anywae and just getting to the line would be a chalange

SSE oh I am sorry I can not see this one maybe at night but the line is 90% out side once inside you are basily on the ride so I can not help here

buzz line is wide enough that you can walk side by side and hold onto the railing for most of the indoor line

PP is one that the inside part would be hard and I would not use a flashlight on this one but it is wide enough to walk next to someone ( and they can describe the line to you and what people are doing might be very interesting to you)

there are a few disabilities where you do have to pick your FP based on needs a little more then other just like some parents have to choose FP based on if their kids can ride something or making them sit out so they can ride something or picking the times around nap time. So there were some things for others to think about when dealing with a vision problem

 

[lanejudy]

OP - as I suggested earlier in this thread -- if you think the DAS might help, ask at Guest Relations and discuss your concerns. They may grant one. Give it a try; you won't know if it can help unless you try.

Enjoy your vacation!

 

[Anchored]

Please go to guest services and explain the accommodations you need and they will help you
My uncle has a disease of his retina that has causes complete loss of peripheral vision (tunnel vision) and complete night blindness. After sundown he can't see you right in front of him
He has a DAS and also, we explain to the CM's at shows what he has and they always sit us front and center.
Go to Guest Service and ask, and also explain to CM's at the attraction. Disney has been fantastic in accommodating us

 

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

Please go to guest services and explain the accommodations you need and they will help you
My uncle has a disease of his retina that has causes complete loss of peripheral vision (tunnel vision) and complete night blindness. After sundown he can't see you right in front of him
He has a DAS and also, we explain to the CM's at shows what he has and they always sit us front and center.
Go to Guest Service and ask, and also explain to CM's at the attraction. Disney has been fantastic in accommodating us

Thank you.
Yes since I was a child I have requested up front seating at shows and have generally been accommodated. (props to BATB specifically). Although there have been times people just don't get it that I am not in need of a wheelchair so going to say the wheelchair accessible areas of things like Illuminations is not helpful because I'd be standing in front of those sitting in a wheelchair trying to see around me.

Has DAS been helpful for your uncle for rides as well as shows?
Just looking for clarification if he felt it was helpful to have a minimal wait when a queue was dark/winding.

 

[Anchored]

Thank you.
Yes since I was a child I have requested up front seating at shows and have generally been accommodated. (props to BATB specifically). Although there have been times people just don't get it that I am not in need of a wheelchair so going to say the wheelchair accessible areas of things like Illuminations is not helpful because I'd be standing in front of those sitting in a wheelchair trying to see around me.

Has DAS been helpful for your uncle for rides as well as shows?
Just looking for clarification if he felt it was helpful to have a minimal wait when a queue was dark/winding.

Absolutely. Walking the Nemo queue he hurt himself and almost someone else so we went to get him one after that. Even if the FP+ queue is dark it is much shorter. In some like Haunted Mansion, he can skip the stretching room and most other dark areas and just go to the loading area. He basically uses the exit as an entrance to most rides though, not the FP line, unless it is impossible.

 

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

Absolutely. Walking the Nemo queue he hurt himself and almost someone else so we went to get him one after that. Even if the FP+ queue is dark it is much shorter. In some like Haunted Mansion, he can skip the stretching room and most other dark areas and just go to the loading area. He basically uses the exit as an entrance to most rides though, not the FP line, unless it is impossible.

Yes I will not even go on Nemo anymore after tripping and hurting myself on a wooden railing. (was side by side with my sister and my foot caught on I think the concrete sort of "lip").
Going through the exit would be a definite benefit for something like BTMRR, Splash Mountain, and Under The Sea as there is a short distance from the light of the sun and the ride vehicle.
Did your uncle have to request going through the exit when walking up to the CM at the attraction or was it part of the DAS accommodation?
Again thank you so much. I feel like your personal experience going with someone that has similar troubles as myself helps for you to understand my struggles.

 

[gap2368]

Yes I will not even go on Nemo anymore after tripping and hurting myself on a wooden railing. (was side by side with my sister and my foot caught on I think the concrete sort of "lip").
Going through the exit would be a definite benefit for something like BTMRR, Splash Mountain, and Under The Sea as there is a short distance from the light of the sun and the ride vehicle.
Did your uncle have to request going through the exit when walking up to the CM at the attraction or was it part of the DAS accommodation?
Again thank you so much. I feel like your personal experience going with someone that has similar troubles as myself helps for you to understand my struggles.

The DAS only gets you in the FP line like I said earlier if you need more you need to talk to the CM at the ride


I have been able to skip the stretching room and go in the exit of the HM ( just talk to the CM right when you get in the door, someone with you will need to do this and when you go outside make sure the CM then takes you to the exit not back in the line.

BTMRR I have been a lowed to use the exit with no problems although half the CM know me there.

I do not use a mobility device at all and the CM have been great at accommodating ( I have no depth prescription and a few other things) my needs you just have to let them know what your needs are.

 

[siren0119]

Did your uncle have to request going through the exit when walking up to the CM at the attraction or was it part of the DAS accommodation?.

It's not part of DAS. DAS only gets you a return time for a ride based on the current wait, and you use the FP line instead of the standby line. Using alternate entrances is something that would have to be discussed with the CM at the ride, and wouldn't involve DAS at all.

 

[kaytieeldr]

so going to say the wheelchair accessible areas of things like Illuminations is not helpful because I'd be standing in front of those sitting in a wheelchair trying to see around me.

Relatively certain there is no standing in front of wheelchair guests permitted. You might be able to sit on the ground in front of the wheelchairs, otherwise you would have to stand behind them.