Crystal Palace and Early Access to Peter Pan's Flight

[Meredith1234]

Hi Everyone! We are going to Disney in right under two weeks. I've been planning with a Disney agent. We had a meeting and I told her my needs and she booked my reservations and fast passes. Unfortunately, I only sat down to really plan about a week ago and study my itinerary. She booked my FP+ all late in the day and it made no sense. For Magic Kingdom, she had us down for Peter Pan's Flight FP+ at 4:15 because she said it was close to our dinner reservations at 5:30. Well that late time does not allow us to take advantage of additional fast passes so I tried to move it up but they have no times available. We do have 8:15 breakfast reservations at Crystal Palace and I'm wondering if we could make it over to Peter Pan's Flight early and get in a shorter line. Thoughts?

 

[Wish Upon A Starbucks]

I would arrive at 7:45 and get to breakfast at 8. They will typically take you early. Pay for breakfast when you arrive and leave by 8:50. Watch the welcome show and head straight to PP and you should not have more than a 15 minute wait and the queue is great.
ETA...assuming the park opens at 9 with no EMH.

 

[mouserrificmom]

We usually have no problem getting to the popular attractions when we have breakfast at the CP. Especially since are close to the first seating. Assuming the park opens at 9 on your day, you should be out before most of the crowds are hitting the rides, and Peter Pan's Flight is fairly close to the restaurant.

I have read that they do now allow people up and around Main Street before RopeDrop where you used to be held by the gates. I am not sure what impact this has had on the 9-9:15 first ride which used to be very easy at nearly all attractions. In the past, the only people who were allowed to wander up main street were those with reservations.

 

[texasgingerbread]

I read with the new welcome show being in the hub there is no benefit to PPO CP. I do not have personal knowledge. Here is the link: http://www.easywdw.com/easy/blog/be...nd-new-rope-drop-touring-plan-strategy-12617/

Quote: Crystal Palace no longer offers any touring advantage for pre-opening breakfast. My advice is usually to book something like 10:45am and enjoy a much more leisurely meal after spending the first 90 minutes of the day taking advantage of some of the shortest waits of the day at the priority attractions. Otherwise, you’re racing through an expensive breakfast only to find yourself in the same rope drop crowds as everyone else.

You could still eat there and try to be close to the front of the line for PP though and see the welcome show if that's what you were thinking.

 

[mouserrificmom]

I read with the new welcome show being in the hub there is no benefit to PPO CP. I do not have personal knowledge. Here is the link: http://www.easywdw.com/easy/blog/be...nd-new-rope-drop-touring-plan-strategy-12617/

Quote: Crystal Palace no longer offers any touring advantage for pre-opening breakfast. My advice is usually to book something like 10:45am and enjoy a much more leisurely meal after spending the first 90 minutes of the day taking advantage of some of the shortest waits of the day at the priority attractions. Otherwise, you’re racing through an expensive breakfast only to find yourself in the same rope drop crowds as everyone else.

You could still eat there and try to be close to the front of the line for PP though and see the welcome show if that's what you were thinking.

I was afraid that this might be the case!!!

 

[Wish Upon A Starbucks]

I agree there is no PPO advantage anymore but you can still finish breakfast before 9 and get to PP with a relatively short wait along with other guests if that is your goal.

 

[tobikaye]

You still get the PPO advantage with BOG and CRT, but I am not sure about with CP. I know that when I did BOG on 2/1/17, we rode 7DMT 4 times in a row and where first in line for Pooh before they even let the guests through. Since we had a FP+ for PP later in the morning, we decided on Pooh.

 

[babyruth]

I had a similar question. And I am so mad because I actually CHANGED my CP to a PPO instead of a 1020am and now I haven't been able to get the later time back. I think we may go for lunch instead!

 

[Meredith1234]

I was afraid of this. I guess we will just do our best! If I keep checking PP Fast Passes, is it a possibility an earlier will open? I also called about Early Morning Magic (just found our about it last night) and there were no tickets available. I wonder how often people cancel and if they ever become available again.

 

[wilkeliza]

You also have to be sure that it is not a day that they are doing the Early Morning Magic event. If EMM is offered that day it doesn't matter what in park breakfast you have booked they won't let you get on the ride until official opening on the listed attractions available to EMM riders.

 

[brockash]

Hi Everyone! We are going to Disney in right under two weeks. I've been planning with a Disney agent. We had a meeting and I told her my needs and she booked my reservations and fast passes. Unfortunately, I only sat down to really plan about a week ago and study my itinerary. She booked my FP+ all late in the day and it made no sense. For Magic Kingdom, she had us down for Peter Pan's Flight FP+ at 4:15 because she said it was close to our dinner reservations at 5:30. Well that late time does not allow us to take advantage of additional fast passes so I tried to move it up but they have no times available. We do have 8:15 breakfast reservations at Crystal Palace and I'm wondering if we could make it over to Peter Pan's Flight early and get in a shorter line. Thoughts?

Honestly, you'd have much more of an advantage if you skipped the CP ADR -it's a disadvantage now as far as getting to rides at opening due to the new opening.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Honestly, you'd have much more of an advantage if you skipped the CP ADR -it's a disadvantage now as far as getting to rides at opening due to the new opening.

We pay early as a PP mentioned and are always out by 8:45 with an 8am ADR -- it's always plenty of time for us, though we may miss meeting one character depending on their schedules -- not a problem for us. Doesn't give an EXTRA advantage these days with new opening, but doesn't give LESS advantage than those there at RD.

 

[brockash]

We pay early as a PP mentioned and are always out by 8:45 with an 8am ADR -- it's always plenty of time for us, though we may miss meeting one character depending on their schedules -- not a problem for us. Doesn't give an EXTRA advantage these days with new opening, but doesn't give LESS advantage than those there at RD.

Except for the fact that you're now behind everyone else who's been waiting around for an hour for rope drop.

 

[Tomh]

Yes, with the new opening procedure, the ONLY reason to do PPO at Crystal Palace is because you enjoy the meal there. It offers no advantage for getting on rides, and as others point out, might actually be a slight disadvantage, since you will end up behind people who have been on Main Street, waiting for rope drop for an hour at that point.

 

[Wish Upon A Starbucks]

Except for the fact that you're now behind everyone else who's been waiting around for an hour for rope drop.

But the majority of those people are heading to 7D, not to Peter Pan. So in this case I don't think it will have much of an impact if the OP does the breakfast. I agree though that the point of breakfast in this case should be to eat a meal at CP, not to try and have some advantage. So if the OP was going there for the meal and experience, I would keep it. If it was for an advantage at opening, I agree they should cancel.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Yes, with the new opening procedure, the ONLY reason to do PPO at Crystal Palace is because you enjoy the meal there. It offers no advantage for getting on rides, and as others point out, might actually be a slight disadvantage, since you will end up behind people who have been on Main Street, waiting for rope drop for an hour at that point.

As PP said, the majority head to 7D. And I've read multiple accounts of people coming out of a CP ADR, or just being one of those people there early, and working their way to a position where they can avoid much of that 7D crowd.

In any case, we do CP because we prefer that breakfast -- by far -- to the other options. If I was booking breakfast ONLY to get a bit of an advantage in the morning, I'd book CRT or BOG. As for us, we are keeping our CP.

 

[KTR]

We did CP as PPO and were done easily before 9. We had an 8am and made sure to be one of the first to check in. We were heading to Adventure land that day so not Peter Pan. However, on a different MK day we wanted to make PP our first ride. We stopped at Casey's for breakfast (back when it had breakfast) and didn't bother heading over to the castle to get in line for RD until just a few minutes before the opening show. We went through the castle to PP and had less than a 15 minute wait, probably closer to 10 minutes. It wasn't after a CP breakfast but given how we handled that morning it wouldn't have been any different if it had been.

 

[DisneyWorld2007]

Has anyone booked the early morning access to MK?

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Has anyone booked the early morning access to MK?

Do you mean this: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/early-morning-magic/

I've done it twice before and am doing it again in Aug. Definitely gives plenty of access to PP! Small buffet is no CP, but we liked it.

 

[DisneyWorld2007]

I thought I read some where that Hollywood Studios was going to do this also, with Toy Story and Star Tours as the rides with breakfast at ABC, but I can't find it.