Oh, let's get back to the crazy table mates and quit debating religious stuff on this thread.
I've never heard the term, "Jesus bullies".
Thanks for the responses. Catholic Grace is really brief, and I can sit through that quietly & politely, no problem. A quick blessing of food is one thing. My husband's extended family is what I not-so-politely call "Jesus Bullies." The kind that make you hold hands, bow your heads, and then recite a litany of everything they are grateful for and who needs to be watched over, etc., before every meal. And you don't have a choice. My husband and I both hate it, but tolerate it since they are family. I'm not sure I could handle that on a cruise with strangers, however. Always wondered the etiquette on this.
As long as it is done quickly and unobtrusively and with no expectation that the non-believer join in, it is certainly not bad manners for someone to practice their religion. I'm not going to ask your permission before I engage in any reasonable religious observance, because, like most individuals of any religious persuasion, I don't care if my religion makes you uncomfortable. I'm not praying for your benefit; I'm doing it because that is what my faith requires of me and what I believe that God would want me to do. I have the right to practice my religion regardless of your feelings about it, just as you have a right not to practice any religion at all. Being religious is not bad manners, but being disrespectful of others' beliefs or expecting them to request your approval before displaying them is.
Thank you for proving the point I made in my original statement that started this whole kerfuffle.![]()
Keep in mind that the OP asked what the etiquette for dealing with "Jesus bullies" was, and I said that they had no etiquette so there was no etiquette. It looks to me like there might be a bit of a difference between those kinds of people and the ones who are getting all in a lather right now, if the way those people say they behave is truly the way they behave.
Oh, let's get back to the crazy table mates and quit debating religious stuff on this thread.
Oh, let's get back to the crazy table mates and quit debating religious stuff on this thread.
So true, they are in a no win situation. You ask a kid to be taken out, Mom (or Dad) blows up the internet with "my kid has special needs and we got kicked out of a dining room on a XYZ Cruise ship". It is on MSNBC and Fox and it is a big pain in the butt for the cruise line. I was amazed they let the guy stand there and yell at the table, but I hate to say from what I heard Disney does not do much better in dealing with disruption in the dining room.
I was very surprised on my last cruise, which was a four day on Princess (AWESOME cruise, by the way, not everyone on Princess is 95 years old, who knew?). Anyways, the muster drill was inside and you were seated in a lounge or theater. As such, it went on a long time as the recording reminded you of many different regulations. MUCH longer than a Disney or Carnival drill. A baby in front of me was a tad fussy, not even on my radar as a parent, he maybe screeched twice. Seriously it was not a big deal, typical little kids stuff. Two different crew members starting moving towards her to tell her she needed to step out, as her child was disrupting the muster drilland other passengers needed to hear the info. The mom huffed and took the kid out. I was actually very impressed, I told the cruise director later. To me the muster drill is deadly serious, people need to hear the info. Well done Princess!
I have had delightful cruises on Carnival, and I think from this thread, it is clear Disney has its share of nuts also!
If some guy got in my wife's face like that, I do not think I could stay seated.
I agree. "Let it go, let it go......"
"As long as it is done quickly and unobtrusively and with no expectation that the non-believer join in, it is certainly not bad manners for someone to practice their religion. I'm not going to ask your permission before I engage in any reasonable religious observance, because, like most individuals of any religious persuasion, I don't care if my religion makes you uncomfortable. I'm not praying for your benefit; I'm doing it because that is what my faith requires of me and what I believe that God would want me to do. I have the right to practice my religion regardless of your feelings about it, just as you have a right not to practice any religion at all. Being religious is not bad manners, but being disrespectful of others' beliefs or expecting them to request your approval before displaying them is." Well, said!Rock on….
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And talks at the same time so food flies everywhere. EwwwThe worst kind of table mate for me are those who chew with their mouths open. It completely grosses me our.
The worst kind of table mate for me are those who chew with their mouths open. It completely grosses me our.
Ugh, I know it. This is one of my biggest pet peeves is when people are "loud" eaters, if that makes sense.
My best friend's husband eats like that, and it's hard to go out to eat with them![]()
I honestly don't know how people can chew / smack their food like that, and not realize how disgusting it is. Blech.
Just went on the Dream last week. It was our first Disney cruise.
We were expecting to be seated with another group since there are only 3 of us. The other family there was totally not expecting to share a table with anyone. They were livid when we were brought to the table.
It was a table with 8 spaces and they were spread out so there was an empty seat between each of them (they were a family of 4). They didn't move over so we could sit together. My DD (7) sat next to their teenage son who glared at her. I had her get up until the staff could figure out what to do to accommodate this family as they were making a scene. The family left in a huff and the tables around us asked us what the problem was. It was slightly embarrassing to have a group of people so upset to sit with you but we realize it was them not us.
Eventually, the father came back in the middle of the meal to apologize to us which was nice but at that point, we were trying to forget the whole ordeal.
The rest of the cruise, we ate at our own 4-top table and it was quite nice. We never saw that family again. No idea if they made new arrangements or skipped the rotational dining all together.