Could someone please explain use year to me?

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We are debating back and forth about buying into DVC sometime in the probably distant future. We have received all the planning material and still half of it makes no sense to me. All the info about banking points and use year just runs together into a confusing lump.:confused3 So, does use year depend on when you actually buy into DVC? Is that something you even need to consider? TIA!
 
We are debating back and forth about buying into DVC sometime in the probably distant future. We have received all the planning material and still half of it makes no sense to me. All the info about banking points and use year just runs together into a confusing lump.:confused3 So, does use year depend on when you actually buy into DVC? Is that something you even need to consider? TIA!

Use yr is the month that you get your points....

the only time use yr really matters is if you cancel a trip....
ie...if you have a Jan use year....and travel a lot in DEC...if you cancel
your dec ressie last minute....you will not be able to bank your points.

the new banking rules are you can bank 100% of your points till
4 months before your use yr...
ie....I have an April use yr....I have a trip planned in april and oct....
if I was to cancel either of those trips within 30 days of ressie....
I can bank all of my points....

If those same points from my 08 april use yr was for a 2-09 ressie....
and I cancelled....I would not be able to bank those points any longer.
Hope that helps'
Kerri
 
We are debating back and forth about buying into DVC sometime in the probably distant future. We have received all the planning material and still half of it makes no sense to me. All the info about banking points and use year just runs together into a confusing lump.:confused3 So, does use year depend on when you actually buy into DVC? Is that something you even need to consider? TIA!

it doesn't matter when you buy into DVC. it is part of the contract that you need to be aware of (and for some, it is a consideration in which contract to buy.)

use year month = the month you get your points each year. since pts expire in one year, it also tells you when they expire.

example: september use year = pts are available for reservations starting on sept 1 and if not used or banked, they will expire next aug 31.

current banking rules allow you to bank 8 months into your use year. that can be important to know if you need to cancel.

if you have a sept use year month and typically take vacations in nov/dec, and something comes up a month or 2 before your reservation, you can cancel and still have plenty of time to bank your points (to use for the next year) before the banking deadline (for sept use year months) at the end of april.

if your vacation style changes and you start typically taking vacations in the summer, then a sept use year month may be a problem. if your reservation is in july, and you need to cancel in may, you are past the banking deadline and may find it difficult to use the points before they expire.
 
I have two memberships with two different use years (not the easiest thing to have). But I find that the Use Years do not really make a difference. As already said, I believe it only makes a difference in terms of cancelling and hence needing to make sure you can still bank or use those points so you don't lose them. And if you vacation at different times of the year, it's really difficult to determine which Use Year you should get. We had long discussions with our guide and he was able to make everything quite clear and any questions we had, he was able to answer. If you give him/her an idea of what you are looking for in terms of vacations and the way you will use the points, they can always suggest something that would be best for you. Good Luck.
 

Thanks for all the info. I'm still not totally clear on this though. :confused3 Do you get to choose when your use year is or does it depend on when you buy in? How is UY determined?
 
Thanks for all the info. I'm still not totally clear on this though. :confused3 Do you get to choose when your use year is or does it depend on when you buy in? How is UY determined?

I bought resale....an april use yr....If you add on...and I did...you get the
same use yr.

I'm sure you can ask your guide what is available in a certain use yr.

Again this is only valuable if you usually travel the same time every yr...
ie always in the summer....then a april or june use yr may be useful....
In case you need to cancel last minute....ie 30 days before ressie.
then you would have plenty of time to bank points or plan another trip within
your use year.
Kerri
 
Thanks for all the info. I'm still not totally clear on this though. :confused3 Do you get to choose when your use year is or does it depend on when you buy in? How is UY determined?

if you are buying in (directly with DVC) for the first time, yes, you can request a use year based on your vacation habits. some use year months may not be immediately available, though.

if you buy a resale contract, use year month is a stated part of the contract.
 
Thanks for all the info. I'm still not totally clear on this though. :confused3 Do you get to choose when your use year is or does it depend on when you buy in? How is UY determined?


When we purchased our first membership points, we were asked to choose. But when we bought subsequent points, they just added it to our current membership and therefore have the same use year.

However, sometimes, there may not be available points for the Use Year you request. So it all depends on availability. However, we have had quite a few friend purchase into DVC for the first time and they've never had a problem choosing the Use Year that they wanted.

I don't believe it matters when you purchase the points. I think it depends on availability. I had asked our guide a few years ago if they start with Feb, then so on when they sell the points for first timers, and he said no.
 
The more I read about use years, the more confused I get. :eek: If my family normally vacations in May or early June, what would the best UY be? It makes sense to me that if, for example, I were to buy a September UY, make a reservation for May 26, 2009, and need to cancel 30 days out, I'd still be able to bank the points since April is the 8th month. Is that wrong? Am I overlooking something? :confused3
 
Use year really does not make THAT much difference. In 11 years of membership, we have never needed to cancel a reservation late enough to lose the points completely. We do, in fact, have a use year that is not within that banking window of the times we usually travel. That being said, what are the chances that you will ALWAYS be traveling the same time of year over the 50 years of a contract? I'm guessing not much. If you have children in school, your travel dates will be different than they will be once they are grown etc. I think there is far too much stress over WHICH use year than there needs to be.
 
Just wanted to add that your points are not "added" on your use year date. They are already there. I think one of the things that makes use year confusing is that it is really more of an "idea" than an actual event. Use year determins when the points for a reservation are valid. For example: If you have a March use year and you make an 11 month booking window reservation for a March trip, you can reserve that trip in April '08 for a trip March '09. The points you will need for that reservation are in your March '09 use year. It isn't yet March '09 when you make that reservation, but it doesn't matter. Those points are already there for that use year....just waiting for you to use them in the proper booking windows. Most of us are making reservations over the span of two use years at the same time. I had a November trip whose points came from my '07 use year, and at the same time I held a March reservation for '08 with points from my '08 use year. They aren't "added" in that month, they are just already there. Now, WE can add to them by banking or subtract from them by borrowing, but that's another story.:)
 
If you're up for a bit of a read/tutorial, here's some help:

Understanding Use Year -

Use year is the month your points are renewed each year. You have 12 months (one year) to use the points before they expire (unless you bank them).

Use year determines your banking deadlines, but it has nothing to do with when you can make a reservation. You can always call 11 months prior to check out for a reservation at your home resort and 7 months prior to check out if you want to reserve something at a non-home resort.

Let's say you get October for your use year. Let's say you decide to buy 200 points.

On October 1, 2008 you get 200 points to use for stays between 10/1/2008 and 9/30/2009. Those would be considered your current use year points for the 2008 use year and any stays that occur during that time period. (If you buy now from Disney and get an October use year, you also get 2007 use year points with your purchase).

If you don't plan to take a trip before 9/30/2009, you'll want to bank your 2008 points so that they do not expire. As long as you call before the end of May 2009 (the banking deadline for 2008 points with October use years), you can bank all 200 points. If you have an October use year, you cannot bank at all during June, July, August or September. (The banking deadline is the end of the 8th month following the start of your use year month. For example, if you have a June use year, the deadline would be the end of the following January. You would not be allowed to bank during February, March, April or May).

Your 2007 use year points are good for stays between 10/1/2007 and 9/30/2008.
Your 2008 use year points are good for stays between 10/1/2008 and 9/30/2009.
Your 2009 use year points are good for stays between 10/1/2009 and 9/30/2010.
Your 2010 use year points are good for stays between 10/1/2010 and 9/30/2011.
etc.

You may bank points forward one use year and borrow from one use year ahead. Banking and borrowing are final transactions. If you cancel a reservation made with banked or borrowed points, they cannot be returned to their original use year. So they would expire at the end of the current use year unless they were used before then. You may not bank or borrow the same points more than once.

Let's say you want to stay in May of 2009 and your stay will cost 500 points. May, 2009 falls within your 2008 use year (See the "chart" above). For that reservation, you may use current use year points from the 2008 use year, any banked points originally from your 2007 use year and you may borrow points from your 2009 use year.

Let's assume you banked all 200 of the 2007 use year points. So for the May 2009 vacation, you used all of the banked points, all of the current use year points and borrowed 100 points from your 2009 use year.

Now let's say you have to cancel that May, 2009 vacation. You call to cancel it in March, 2009. Since you called to cancel more than 30 days prior to arrival, all 500 points were returned to your account. But now you have 300 points to use or lose before the end of your current use year (9/30/2008) - the 200 that were banked and the 100 that were borrowed.

If you called Member Services before the end of May, 2009, you could bank all 200 of your 2008 use year points if yo didn't think you would use them before 9/30/2009.. Now those 200 points are good for stays between 10/1/2009 and 9/30/20010. They will expire on 9/30/2010 if not used before then - you cannot bank the same points more than once.

ADVICE: If you travel about the same time of the year on a regular basis, it's best to choose a use year that falls no more than 6 or 7 months prior to that time.

Use year only matters if you have to cancel a vacation that was scheduled to occur late in your use year - because banking is limited late in the use year and you wouldn't have much time to reschedule before the points expire).

For example, let's say you wanted to take a 500 point vacation in August of 2009. Again, you use 200 banked points, 200 current use year points and 100 borrowed points for the reservation. Let's say you find out in mid-June that you can't go and call to cancel the reservation. Your account now has 500 points that expire on 9/30/2009 if not used. Since you are past your banking deadline, you can't bank any of the 2008 points (like you could when you were planning to go in May and had to cancel).

Many owners never have to cancel a vacation (lucky them, LOL) so they don't worry about use year. Remember, use year has nothing to do with when you may call to make a reservation. Again, if you usually travel at the same time of the year, it's best to choose a use year that begins just prior to that time.

Keep in mind that your travel pattern may change over the course of your ownership. What starts out as a "perfect" use year may end up to be not so perfect.

Hope all that helps you understand a little better how use year works.

Best wishes -
 

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