Coronavirus: why you should not go to Disney World when it reopens


The coronavirus has a fatality rate of something between 0.5% to 3.4%, and it attacks not just the lungs but a vast array of body organs and systems from head to toe, causing all kinds of problems. It is capable of asymptomatic transmission, making it extremely infectious and most of the world’s population will catch it in time, within a year.

Most people will come out of the coronavirus unharmed, suffering little or not at all. So why not go to Disney World then?

1. If you have caught it and survived, you may catch it again, especially as the virus mutates, and get hit harder the second time around and die.

2. By avoiding crowded places such as Disney World, you may be able to reduce your infectious dose when you catch it, and thereby reduce the severity of your symptoms. That is, if you catch just 5 viruses, your body might be able to fight it off easily, whereas if you catch 5 million, you will be dead as a doorknob, even though you are a perfectly young, healthy person.

3. If you hide from the virus long enough, by the time you catch it, the doctors might know more about how to handle the disease and give you more informed care, having made their mistakes on others who got sick before you. For example, the death rate for ventilator usage in New York is 80%, and for old people over age 65, 97%, according to the New York Times. That made doctors less interested in using ventilators for covid. They are also trying out a series of drugs, so if you can hold out long enough, you can pick the medicine that actually works, or at least avoid being a guinea pig for all the non-working ones. Also, a vaccine may show up. It's like a game of dodge ball: you stay back, you get hit last.

4. If you get deathly sick in Disney World and end up in the hospital, chances are that your entire family will be sick also, being that you are stuck in a hotel room during vacation in close proximity of each other, and covid is really infectious. Then you will be sick without family support. If you get sick at home, at least friends and family can help, and you have all your home supplies.

5. Disney World (or Disneyland) is the happiest place on earth. It’s not worth going when there is a plague hanging over your head during the super expensive vacation, when there is a big damper on everybody‘s happiness level. Imagine seeing everybody in Disney World wearing masks, as if Disney World has turned into one giant emergency room. Let's for a few years and let this thing die down.

6. If a bad second wave hits during your trip (like it did during the Spanish flu, when young people started dropping dead), the flights might get cancelled and you can’t get home.

7. When Disney World reopens, there will be a bunch of horrible adjustments to make life miserable: temperature checks, social distancing, cancelled parades and fireworks and events, wearing masks in 95 degree heat and humidity, monrail not running. So you run from Epcot to DHS (we do that all the time) and get your temperature up, and they won’t let you in. Or you’ve been waiting in line outside MK in the hot sun for half an hour and your forehead is burning. Or, maybe your temperature is perfect, but MK is already 1/4 full and that’s all they allow to get in for the day, and you are out of luck. Or they are not opening Epcot, so you have nothing to eat.

8. If you catch covid in Disney World and go back, your home town will not be happy with you. “Look at those stupid jerks, traveling during a pandemic and bringing the virus back to us!” People go to Disney World from all over, so it will poke a big hole in the herd immunity plan. As the pandemic run out, Disney World will be the last place in the world still spreading the virus.

9. Let’s wait and see what all is going to happen with the virus and with the society. Will the virus have a second wave? A third? Will people have immunity after catching it, or will they catch it again and again, getting sicker each time? Will the flights be cancelled if things get bad? And what about the economy? Will the money run out because stocks are flattened, jobs are gone, food prices increase? Maybe we should save the Disney World money for covid emergency fund, not just for ourselves, but also for relatives and friends who might get hit hard with loss of income or increased responsibilities.

10. You might ask, but what if covid blows over a lot sooner? But here’s the thing: you don’t know when it might come back. Disney World trips are planned months in advance, and by the time you go, something unpleasant might be rearing up its head, and there‘s a good chance of that happening. Nobody knows about this virus, what it will do in months or years to come.

I really want to go back to Disney World. I want to check out the Skyliner. I want to walk the new walking path from the Grand Floridian to MK. I want to sit on the beach at CBR at midnight and read Harry Potter. I just bought a very small, convenient pop up tent that I want to try out for when it rains. I want to watch DS4 play on the splash pad at CBR -- it was his favorite. I want to check out Fort Wilderness and rent a golf cart there. I want to walk from Fort Wilderness to Wilderness lodge - they have a walking path there that I didn’t know about. I want to stay at AKL so that we can eat breakfast at Boma again, we loved it last year.

I am going to skip this year and next year, and go back to Disney World in 2022 or later, if everything has cooled off for at least a year. Until then, I will just stay home and be sad.

You do you. I plan to go to Universal in August.
 
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You do you. I plan to go to Universal in August.
Priced out Universal Orlando for the same time frame I just booked for WDW. If there had not been so much new opened at WDW since the last time we were there I would have jumped at Universal. Almost half the price of WDW!
 
Well now Shanghai really is going to open. I want to go, but the two people I would normally be able to call on for a Disney trip are stuck here, so it would end up being a solo trip.
 
anyone else remember the vast differences in airline travel experiences pre 9/11 getting the feeling that we'll be reminiscing in the same manner about amusement park experiences 'pre covid'?

i'm ancient enough to remember even as an adult paying an admission fee to disneyland and then having to buy individual a-e tickets for rides, but i saw those and subsequent entrance/ride changes as disney's business model changing-not as something in response to life altering events. we had a disney cruise booked for just a few weeks post 9/11 and while the cruise lines hadn't changed much, the airports were doing hyper increased security that would still pale in comparison to what is common now. we were all being told it was a gut response, things would calm down and get back to normal........nope, it became a new normal for air travel. my adult kids are too young to remember getting to an airport, bags in hand and boarding a plane w/less than an hour from pulling into the lot let alone my young adult experiences of just showing up at an international airport w/no reservation and being able to pay cash with no i.d. for an available ticket on a plane departing in 15 minutes.

i look at all that's happening to retail and other spaces around our area-arrows imprinted on the floors to direct flow of patrons, plexiglass for direct contact, railing/handles that would be used by hands replaced for use by elbows or feet, limited hours/maximum capacity....i get that some of this will go away as fears/cases dissipate and ideally a vaccine comes into being. i question though if some of it will become ingrained in the way the post 9/11 travel rules have 'just in case'.
 
There’s an old saying that when a storm goes through a forest it knocks down the old trees first. So that the younger ones can grow. With this virus is just simply taking out people that already are older or weaker. That’s really what it comes down to, as one ages naturally they will have more medical issues or are easier to breakdown. It’s the basic case of the strong survive- younger are stronger than older. .Sure you can medically analyze go in the detail but that’s what it really comes down to - survival of the fittest.
Pretty soon it’s gonna be all Children of the Corn up in here.
 
Just to let you know. From Eastern Washington's only hospital equipped to deal with Corona virus theres been no new cases in over a week. The cases they have had were not like the one's described in places on the East coast or even Seattle. That's coming from a few nurses I know that have been working directly with patients. A couple of them have said that quite a few of those we have been hearing about dying from this virus were already dying and had a short time to live. The cases here have been much like the flu for most. One nurse even said that the media has escalated this to a level of sheer panic and it was not necessary.

I am curious if anyone personally knows someone who has tested positive and how the virus has affected them? If you do where are you from?

With the way our area stands we are not at risk and our hospital had 5 of the first infected people flown here from a cruise ship. The hospital here services a wide range because its equipped to deal with this virus. But, there aren't any cases now. Two weeks ago they had just seven and they weren't severe or fatal.
 
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We have a number of kids in the hospital now suffering with what staff believes are covid related after effects. In case anyone feels those reports being issued are over dramatic.
 
Just to let you know. From Eastern Washington's only hospital equipped to deal with Corona virus theres been no new cases in over a week. The cases they have had were not like the one's described in places on the East coast or even Seattle. That's coming from a few nurses I know that have been working directly with patients. A couple of them have said that quite a few of those we have been hearing about dying from this virus were already dying and had a short time to live. The cases here have been much like the flu for most. One nurse even said that the media has escalated this to a level of sheer panic and it was not necessary.

I am curious if anyone personally knows someone who has tested positive and how the virus has affected them? If you do where are you from?

With the way our area stands we are not at risk and our hospital had 5 of the first infected people flown here from a cruise ship. The hospital here services a wide range because its equipped to deal with this virus. But, there aren't any cases now. Two weeks ago they had just seven and they weren't severe or fatal.


I looked up some death counts from Eastern Washington Counties. Looks like a lot fewer than in Western Washington but 5.2 million of the 6.7 million in the entire state reside in Western Washington. Doesn't look like not at risk to me. .
Spokane County 23
Yakima County 57
Franklin County 14
Benton County 47
Douglas 2
Chelen 5
Grant 3
Okanogan, Ferry, and Stevens 1 each.

Oh and there are several hospitals that can deal with it in Eastern Washington.
There's at least one in Yakima
https://www.yakimaherald.com/specia...cle_f47deed1-2bc7-54f3-ad64-8bb2c5e6e52e.htmlThere's at least one in Spokane
https://www.kxly.com/spokane-county-hospitals-in-good-shape-to-handle-incoming-covid-19-patients/There is at least one in Pullman.
There is at least one in Chelen County
 
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Just to let you know. From Eastern Washington's only hospital equipped to deal with Corona virus theres been no new cases in over a week. The cases they have had were not like the one's described in places on the East coast or even Seattle. That's coming from a few nurses I know that have been working directly with patients. A couple of them have said that quite a few of those we have been hearing about dying from this virus were already dying and had a short time to live. The cases here have been much like the flu for most. One nurse even said that the media has escalated this to a level of sheer panic and it was not necessary.

I am curious if anyone personally knows someone who has tested positive and how the virus has affected them? If you do where are you from?

With the way our area stands we are not at risk and our hospital had 5 of the first infected people flown here from a cruise ship. The hospital here services a wide range because its equipped to deal with this virus. But, there aren't any cases now. Two weeks ago they had just seven and they weren't severe or fatal.
Dozens, some with mild symptoms, some very sick but able to recover at home, some hospitalized, some on vents, some died. The medical professionals I know are pretty mentally scarred. We have a volunteer rescue squad in our town, there has been a meal train for months and families and businesses deliver food every day. Just this week there was a car parade of residents that drove by them and the police station/firehouse. There have also been wake parades, there was a big one up the street last weekend, so sad, people were tossing Mass cards on a blanket. Catholic cemeteries just lowered restrictions and up to 10 loved ones can now attend burials while socially distancing.

ETA, northeast NJ, we recently wend 3 days with no new cases, but yesterday 6 more, which is the average. My town has 28,000 residents, 3 miles long, 450 cases. The surrounding towns have similar stats.
 

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